This is why surgery even for top percentile males is worth it.

[Deleted]

Just like how looks aren't linear neither is the halo effect. 5.5 to 6.5 psl is the difference of being the best looking guy in your high school (4-600 guys) and being the best looking at the campus (10-20 000 guys).

*Compare the photos not the eras of Cruise*
A person going from mid tier normie to high tier normie will require MORE surgery than a chadlite to chad transformation in a lot of cases as the normie don't have the base to be attractive. It will also have less of a difference on his life as he will go from normal guy to slightly above normal looking guy.

Another reason is because the more attractive you go it becomes increasingly rare to become even better. Most good looking guys never get surgery which makes the ones that do stand out even more.


Side note, stop using faceapp and other "upscaling" programs on your morphs. It doesn't emulate anything remotely possible and actually overlays a generic attractive face onto the picture you used in combination with adjustments to midface and lightning.

Tagging people with opinions, both for and against.

@Lars @Amnesia @StreegeReturn @averagejoe @RealSurgerymax @wollet2 @chadison @Pendejo @Erik-Jón @deathdiss @zv1212 @AlexBrown84 @Pakicel @alriodai @andy9432 @the BULL @Salieri @Hero of the Imperium

 

[Deleted member 15827]

I mog you to suicide

 

[Deleted]

View attachment 1807363 I mog you to suicide

alr

 

[John124]

Meanwhile in reality all that happens is your body dysmorphia leads to you botching yourself

 

[the BULL]

true but you're already maxxed OP character you can't do anything
you will never experience what ascension feels like

 

[ManletBlackcel]

 

[ManletBlackcel]

 

[Deleted member 15827]

true but you're already maxxed OP character you can't do nothing
you will never experience what ascension feels like

I love u BULL ascension feel gud

 

[Looks234]

It will also have less of a difference on his life as he will go from normal guy to slightly above normal looking guy.

Normie to htn is the most drastic change

 

[Enfant terrible]

who wants to devil effect max?

 

[Pakicel]

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Just like how looks aren't linear neither is the halo effect. 5.5 to 6.5 psl is the difference of being the best looking guy in your high school (4-600 guys) and being the best looking at the campus (10-20 000 guys).


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*Compare the photos not the eras of Cruise*
A person going from mid tier normie to high tier normie will require MORE surgery than a chadlite to chad transformation in a lot of cases as the normie don't have the base to be attractive. It will also have less of a difference on his life as he will go from normal guy to slightly above normal looking guy.
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Another reason is because the more attractive you go it becomes increasingly rare to become even better. Most good looking guys never get surgery which makes the ones that do stand out even more.


Side note, stop using faceapp and other "upscaling" programs on your morphs. It doesn't emulate anything remotely possible and actually overlays a generic attractive face onto the picture you used in combination with adjustments to midface and lightning.

Tagging people with opinions, both for and against.

@Lars @Amnesia @StreegeReturn @averagejoe @RealSurgerymax @wollet2 @chadison @Pendejo @Erik-Jón @deathdiss @zv1212 @AlexBrown84 @Pakicel @alriodai @andy9432 @the BULL @Salieri @Hero of the Imperium

What this site considers 6.5 PSL isn't even rare. There are a lot of people you will see IRL who would be rated that on here.

 

[Deleted member 15827]

Normie to htn is the most drastic change

Truecel to chadlite mogs it

 

[Pakicel]

Normie to htn is the most drastic change

I think biggest is like below normie to normie ranges. Most women do not expect you to be anything more than average looking.

 

[Deleted]

who wants to devil effect max?

when i was the shortest guy in class with long hair i experienced that effect

It sounds like one of those fake nerd tales but a girl who used to mock me for being skinny unironically slid into my instagram dms all these years later. She isn't stacy or anything but it proves just how different the lives of and attractive and unnattractive person is. From bein mocked to being lusted.

 

[Deleted]

Meanwhile in reality all that happens is your body dysmorphia leads to you botching yourself

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It was just post op swelling.

 

[John124]

It was just post op swelling.

Not as bad but pre-op still mogs IMO

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I think biggest is like below normie to normie ranges. Most women do not expect you to be anything more than average looking.

It depends on what sort of context we’re talking anout


If you just wanna be accepted by people and have normal nt friendships then the best rewards are going from subhuman - LTN

If you just wanna get a fairly normal Becky GF and only have looks in order to do so HTN should be enough

For slaying it’s al about being chadlite +

If you wanna be worshipped by basically everyone you meet for your looks (don’t care much for this myself honestly). Then you need to be giga chad

 

[Deleted]

Not as bad but pre-op still mogs IMO

Pre op isn't the picture you sent though as he was much younger. He's looked very bloated the last couple of years and he was sub 10% bf in the pic you posted. He's fatmaxxed now.

 

[Deleted]

If you wanna be worshipped by basically everyone you meet for your looks (don’t care much for this myself honestly). Then you need to be giga chad

This is the goal

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

This is the goal

Fair enough mate- personally if I was a chadlite + I’d just focus on longevity and anti aging because I don’t feel the risk reward trade off of invasive surgery is worth it at this point

 

[Erik-Jón]

Based arvid

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

@averagejoe should get lefort III and phenoplasty

 

[Deleted member 18840]

My brain goes like its not worth it too risky to ascend further my heart is like go do every possible surgery needed to ascend to the max and just live for mog mog mog.

 

[Deleted]

My brain goes like its not worth it too risky to ascend further my heart is like go do every possible surgery needed to ascend to the max and just live for mog mog mog.

Start wearing sunglasses to hide those orbits

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Start wearing sunglasses to hide those orbits

I mog u dog

 

[Tom Jones]

I mog u dog

You need Bimax, genio ASAP. At least 20 mm mental advancement.

 

[Deleted member 18840]

You need Bimax, genio ASAP. At least 20 mm mental advancement.

Tbh ngl trimax

 

[Tom Jones]

Tbh ngl trimax

You are eligible for a Lefort III. The government will pay. You are frightening citizens with your reccesion.

 

[Tobias Fünke]

Law of diminishing returns applies everywhere. Barring some sort of disability any guy who can ascend from subhuman to MTN relatively safely. If you're already a chadlite, then you already have appeal that you could potentially lose through surgery. Sort of like playing poker: if you have fuck all chips then you may as well go all in as you stand to lose nothing. But if you are the chip leader, going all in is retarded.

 

[Marco Polo]

Meanwhile in reality all that happens is your body dysmorphia leads to you botching yourself

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He was way better looking before, he fell for the male gaze meme and fucked his harmony, imagine looking like this:

And getting implants

 

[Deleted member 18694]

I mog u dog

he's white.

 

[Deleted member 18694]

He was way better looking before, he fell for the male gaze meme and fucked his harmony, imagine looking like this:

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And getting implants

he would have been a regular good looking guy you forget after 5 minutes if it wasn't for his blue eyes.

 

[Marco Polo]

he would have been a regular good looking guy you forget after 5 minutes if it wasn't for his blue eyes.

Sure, but if he needs any type of surgery, it's LL

 

[Enfant terrible]

when i was the shortest guy in class with long hair i experienced that effect

It sounds like one of those fake nerd tales but a girl who used to mock me for being skinny unironically slid into my instagram dms all these years later. She isn't stacy or anything but it proves just how different the lives of and attractive and unnattractive person is. From bein mocked to being lusted.

i hope you rejected that bitch

 

[germanlooks]

Most women do not expect you to be anything more than average looking

 

[Pakicel]

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Keep fapping to depoot. For the vast majority of women you only need to be normie. Look at all the hollywood actors they crush on. Majority are nowhere near chad. Just slightly above average most of the time.

 

[alriodai]

when i was the shortest guy in class with long hair i experienced that effect

It sounds like one of those fake nerd tales but a girl who used to mock me for being skinny unironically slid into my instagram dms all these years later. She isn't stacy or anything but it proves just how different the lives of and attractive and unnattractive person is. From bein mocked to being lusted.

people will never understand how life is different as u get more attracitve
"BUT BUT UR ALREADY GOOD LOOKING BRO U CAN GET BITCHES"
it's not about getting girls, i could get girls even before i ascended
it's about how the treatement is sodifferent

 

[germanlooks]

Keep fapping to depoot. For the vast majority of women you only need to be normie. Look at all the hollywood actors they crush on. Majority are nowhere near chad. Just slightly above average most of the time.

 

[Pakicel]

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If most average white guys softmaxxed, they would look pretty close to them.

 

[Pakicel]

people will never understand how life is different as u get more attracitve
"BUT BUT UR ALREADY GOOD LOOKING BRO U CAN GET BITCHES"
it's not about getting girls, i could get girls even before i ascended
it's about how the treatement is sodifferent

Are you algerian?

 

[enchanted_elixir]

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Just like how looks aren't linear neither is the halo effect. 5.5 to 6.5 psl is the difference of being the best looking guy in your high school (4-600 guys) and being the best looking at the campus (10-20 000 guys).


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*Compare the photos not the eras of Cruise*
A person going from mid tier normie to high tier normie will require MORE surgery than a chadlite to chad transformation in a lot of cases as the normie don't have the base to be attractive. It will also have less of a difference on his life as he will go from normal guy to slightly above normal looking guy.
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Another reason is because the more attractive you go it becomes increasingly rare to become even better. Most good looking guys never get surgery which makes the ones that do stand out even more.


Side note, stop using faceapp and other "upscaling" programs on your morphs. It doesn't emulate anything remotely possible and actually overlays a generic attractive face onto the picture you used in combination with adjustments to midface and lightning.

Tagging people with opinions, both for and against.

@Lars @Amnesia @StreegeReturn @averagejoe @RealSurgerymax @wollet2 @chadison @Pendejo @Erik-Jón @deathdiss @zv1212 @AlexBrown84 @Pakicel @alriodai @andy9432 @the BULL @Salieri @Hero of the Imperium

Question, does the hairline lowering surgery scar eventually fade away after like a year? What causes the scar, melanin?
If so, you can just apply hydroquinone and it'll go away.

 

[germanlooks]

If most average white guys softmaxxed, they would look pretty close to them.

Your delusion reached a new level. Hope you are trolling rn.

Not even HTNs could reach their lookslevels with invasive surgery.
Notice how they all have either top tier bones or top tier pheno/coloring or some even both?

 

[Pakicel]

Your delusion reached a new level. Hope you are trolling rn.

Not even HTNs could reach their lookslevels with invasive surgery.
Notice how they all have either top tier bones or top tier pheno/coloring or some even both?

Where do you live? Which city in Germany?

If you go to the center of any major European city, you will see plenty of white men near their looks level.

And btw many of them do not have top tier bones or colouring. Some of them are literally zygoless.

 

[germanlooks]

Where do you live? Which city in Germany?

If you go to the center of any major European city, you will see plenty of white men near their looks level.

And btw many of them do not have top tier bones or colouring. Some of them are literally zygoless.

Please just shut the fuck up it’s not even funny anymore.

I have never seen someone who looks like Bomer, Pitt or Sommerhalder irl not even in big cities

Just softmaxx yourself to Henry Cavill bro, Just softmaxx yourself top tier forward growth, square jaw and north atlantid pheno bro

You can have top tier bones without zygos. Jaw matters more in normie eyes and outside modeling

 

[alriodai]

Are you algerian?

yes

 

[Pakicel]

Please just shut the fuck up it’s not even funny anymore.

I have never seen someone who looks like Bomer, Pitt or Sommerhalder irl not even in big cities

Just softmaxx yourself to Henry Cavill bro, Just softmaxx yourself top tier forward growth, square jaw and north atlantid pheno bro

You can have top tier bones without zygos. Jaw matters more in normie eyes and outside modeling

Why do you think I'm trolling
? Look at these men again. Do you honestly think that there are top tier one in a million looking dudes. Sure they are above average with good bones and colouring of course but it's not like they have an exceedingly rare combination of traits.

It's not just me. There are users on here from the exact same country as you who agree that the average white guy is htn-chadlite. One of them gets rated chadlite here but wants to get surgery because he feels average where he lives.

 

[Pakicel]

yes

I thought you were american

 

[germanlooks]

Look at these men again. Do you honestly think that there are top tier one in a million looking dudes

This candid speaks for itself

Keep fucking coping

 

[Pakicel]

Mogged too hard by the morph above to impress me. I see guys at a similar level to bomer in any majority white neighborhood. Also, his height is mediocre.

 

[Deleted]

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Mogged too hard by the morph above to impress me. I see guys at a similar level to bomer in any majority white neighborhood. Also, his height is mediocre.

Thats my morph