This vid by professor sailer helps explain a lot of shit also here is a god tier result i found

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Essentially the points summarized are.

- Beauty is bone deep moving the bone forward moves your air ways forward so you can breath more at night allowing for feelings of well rested ness and more cognitive brain usage during the day.

- In ancient times those in ancient greece used to prefer recessed faces for some reason don't know why but they preferred an recessed ante face.

-Down wards growth is associated with breathing issues and other problems.

- Ante face is 1 of the ideals of beauty but the hyper ante face is the most ideal.

-It is ideal to get to combine CCW With dimax (lefort 2+IMDO) first and then to get jaw implants to make the face look more natural.


Interestingly none of these people were ever even actually trying to actively hard max by this i mean they didn't go for the very extremes with us the results could be a billion times better.

So essentially the order of surgeries should be rotation advancement+IMDO (Cause BSSO is more risky than imdo)+lefort 2+full facial implants by yarem chuck after that and then a fuck tonne of eye surgeries by taban+Bucca fat removal

How a full facial transplant will go Essentially bucca fat removal+rotation+expansion+implantation=Ideal results.

@RealSurgerymax thoughts ?

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high IQ thread as always (y)
 
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Holy shit some guys there went from .co regulars to looking like fucking Clark Kent
 
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Holy shit some guys there went from .co regulars to looking like fucking Clark Kent


In the vedio it said he got rotation+jaw implantation so i don't know what he got i just want it also sailer just seems to be a god surgeon mogs gunsonn into the fucking dust
 
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These are so frauded tbh.
 
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This man confidence increased by a thousand, look at that personality

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- Ante face is 1 of the ideals of beauty but the hyper ante face is the most ideal.

What do you mean by this?
 
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In the vedio it said he got rotation+jaw implantation so i don't know what he got i just want it also sailer just seems to be a god surgeon mogs gunsonn into the fucking dust
Charges $100k though. Not worth it unless you are truly subhuman.
 
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Angle and slight lighting fruad your high though if you don't think they didn't increase 1 billion fold
The hyper anteface only looks good from 3/4. Looks completely uncanny from the side.
 
Yes. He’s an exclusive elitist surgeon. You can’t even get a consultation with him last I heard unless you put a deposit in.
 
High iq yhread. Tks. Bookmarked will read later
 
Yes. He’s an exclusive elitist surgeon. You can’t even get a consultation with him last I heard unless you put a deposit in.


Yikes well we could go to some cheaper surgeon ngl
 
It looks good from the front as well lmao
Normal forward growth as opposed to Hyper anteface would look just as good from front and will look normal from the side.
 
Yikes well we could go to some cheaper surgeon ngl
Like who? Not many choices atm. Other surgeons have mediocre results on the average looking man.
 
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Normal forward growth as opposed to Hyper anteface would look just as good from front and will look normal from the side.


I disagree on this most chads have a hyper ante face
 
Like who? Not many choices atm. Other surgeons have mediocre results on the average looking man.


Remeber I don't mean normal surgeons i mean maxio facial surgeons. Here is 1 god tier result.



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He had 12 MM expansion and slight rotation also he got bone graft from the hips so his entire face looks more dense I know the surgeon though this guy had a death tier mid face from the front.
 
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The head angle fraud is so blatant. If the results were good he would let them speak for themselves, I dont trust this surgeon at all.
 
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Surgery maxing is love surgery maxing is life.
 
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Remeber I don't mean normal surgeons i mean maxio facial surgeons. Here is 1 god tier result.



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He had 12 MM expansion and slight rotation also he got bone graft from the hips so his entire face looks more dense I know the surgeon though this guy had a death tier mid face from the front.

Could you PM me details about this, like what exactly was done and who by? Its probably the best bimax result to date, and I would love to consult with the surgeon who performed it, would really appreciate it.
 
Remeber I don't mean normal surgeons i mean maxio facial surgeons. Here is 1 god tier result.



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He had 12 MM expansion and slight rotation also he got bone graft from the hips so his entire face looks more dense I know the surgeon though this guy had a death tier mid face from the front.
The problem is how many people actually look like that? What if an average looking guy wants to be a Chad? He’s limited to fillers and implants atm unless he coughs up $100k. At that point he can just buy a sports car and be a rich playboy.
 
The problem is how many people actually look like that? What if an average looking guy wants to be a Chad? He’s limited to fillers and implants atm unless he coughs up $100k. At that point he can just buy a sports car and be a rich playboy.

Well I mean i'm pretty sure the maxiofacial that preformed this god tier bimax doesn't charge that much
 
andreischev and zarribal still mog, better prices and results are not bad.
 
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Could you PM me details about this, like what exactly was done and who by? Its probably the best bimax result to date, and I would love to consult with the surgeon who performed it, would really appreciate it.


Sure let me load up autism.net
 
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Could you PM me details about this, like what exactly was done and who by? Its probably the best bimax result to date, and I would love to consult with the surgeon who performed it, would really appreciate it.



dr lance west in auckland, nz
 
Give some examples, im still not grasping the concept


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Best example of the hyper ant face in my opinion it's too forward grown and in every direction
 
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You said these people didn't try to hard max

What else does this surgeon do that they didn't get? More facial implants?
 
Theres no way in hell this is real.
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Isn't the guy below known for being a fraud?
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You said these people didn't try to hard max

What else does this surgeon do that they didn't get? More facial implants?


I mean i'm guessing they weren't concerned about looking the most aesthetic tbqh we can get more out of this
 
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The head angle fraud is so blatant. If the results were good he would let them speak for themselves, I dont trust this surgeon at all.

How much of psl is frauded with head tilt it's not much right undoubtely his results are very good like some of the best i've seen in the field
 
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Best example of the hyper ant face in my opinion it's too forward grown and in every direction

This is an example of hyper ante face which looks incredibly handsome, or maybe its just a regular ante face?

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Paulo Costa anteface

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How much of psl is frauded with head tilt it's not much right undoubtely his results are very good like some of the best i've seen in the field

The ear angle difference is quite a lot
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This is life fuel! I might ascend for real
 
Isn't a hyper ante face in reference to the relative amounts of forward growth ?

Relative to what? I measure forward growth by this line from the eyeball to the upper jaw (where nostril starts)

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I think its faulty to measure compared to forehead, because brow ridge projection varies so much, whereas eyeballs are at the center of the face.
 
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How does his midface and orbitals look so forward grown in the after pic? Is that a lefort 2?

idk, I wouldn't be surprised if this Dr Sailer morphed it a little too, some surgeons have been caught doing that in before/afters, so its not implausible that he would do it too (especially seeing how he frauds head angle so much).
 
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