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Do you know of any better aesthetic first surgeons?
you would benefit far more from fat grafting and rhino
I see DJS, implants, and possibly rhinoplasty as the ultimate fix because they are the best way to restore the face you were supposed to have and correct an underdeveloped, collapsed facial structure like mine.
Who are the others that are more bpd?
up to you but you arent boosting ur psl/smv by much except from a rhino or fat graft
Bro u don’t need djs, and don’t need to go to pagnoni either. You’d benifit a lot more from selective prosecutes. Advancing the jaws in any way won’t make your smv or attractiveness better.
I dont get yall who are super unhealthy, sick looking, zero softmax and instantly go for big surgeries, i would understand if you had overbite maybe but your bite is fine too
Fat grafts for the eyes might help lots
Was your DJS purely cosmetic, or was it for functional reasons too? It’s hard to tell what I really look like based on just a few pictures. I’ve had friends comment that my face looks downward grown and recessed, even though I’ve never mentioned anything about it to them before. In the same day, one person said something like, “I can tell you used to mouth breathe and your face got messed up from it, but there’s not much you can do about it now,” and later that day, someone else said, “You have everything going for you, it’s just your face that’s a little fucked up.” Neither of them meant it in a hurtful way, they’re both just kind of autistic and probably didn’t realize what they were saying.
can i pm you, i have a few questions
the problem is, pag is one of the only options really, every surgeon you will find has a ton of botches, its the unfortunate reality, you will need alot of revisions to perfect stuff, the best metric you can go by is how good the result is, giant (for implants, assistant during osteos) for example has the most polarizing results, there has been some bad shit that questions his competency but also results where your mind is blown
yea sure. And giants a eh, Sure he can and does design the best custom implants. However, implants don’t mean shit when the surgeon placing them is incompetent and unaware of how the soft tissue will respond.
Half Danish
Seems completely unnecessary, theres quite a few other things you would benefit from
Like what? I just know that my facial structure has collapsed inwards and is not in its ideal physiological position, and I think restorative jaw surgery will fix it.
Skin and hair fix will make you look chadlight. you have acne scarred skin and just incel hair. transplant along hairline to give more density would improve your face more than maxilla structure imporvement
Bruh I wish. It’s all in the bones
rhino; vertical height genio; jaw-midface implants; accutane-co2 laser combination; thicker darker eyebrows; here u go gl on your journey
What made u change your mind on all of this?
I mean it's a waste of time for him, not in general
I think the close shot with the front camera doesn’t do justice on how recessed I am. You wouldn’t agree that forward projection of the maxilla and mandible would significantly enhance my appearance?
Let's use you as a forum case study that others can learn from. Go ahead, get jaw surgery and improve your side profile. Then come back and share a frontal picture with us where you look basically the same
genio with downward rotation!!!!
u really dont need bimax
Whenever I see posts from others asking about bimax, they usually look fully forward-grown and don’t really need it. At least in my case, there’s a legitimate structural reason for it and I know it would actually make a significant difference in how I look. You don’t think I would lot a better with it? Your suggesting implants but wouldn’t djs (though more expensive) create potentially a more natural less uncanny look?
sure go for it. 30k for 2mm lefort
I would suggest you that bimax for you is useless, even aesthetical side and you might suffer health wise rather than gain.
I agree, bimax is just for cases that deserve it, even sever cases sometimes don't actually ascend in the people's expectation.
Wish i could like this post thousands of times, well said.
Your frontal bone is strong, many of the users wich look forwardly grown usually have a less stronger frontal bone, wich gives the illusion of forward growth (maxilla pass the browridge aka frontal bone)
Op Wants to have good chances From ltb- htb and I can assure you the standarts nowadays are trough the roof. Maybe Not for LTR but even the principle of „mog her past in almost every aspect“ stands
Is it not possible that my frontal bone only looks strong because the rest of my face is recessed.
Rhino + sliding genio, darken hair and eyebrows
says the obo;lf3;canthoplasty/pexy;orb.decomp;infra-supra case
I mean he is more of a obo case then bimax, i dont say he needs either
ngl nowadays i wouldnt even think about going to pagnoni after several botches/complications after surgery first
Nah also if he operates on a guy like this he obv is not a serious surgeon
I think it’s something to with the 2d photo because people in real life have told me I looked recessed. Also, the right side of my face is less recessed and it’s easy to see the difference. Nose is bigger and everything is just less projected on my left side. So I am at least a little structurally recessed on that side
Also, how did surgery go with Pagnoni? Good result?
