thumbpulling with braces?

[Deleted member 125499]

could i do or not?

 

[rrm_ss2]

could i do or not?

why thumbpull when you can get both braces and a palate expander at the same time

 

[Deleted member 125499]

why thumbpull when you can get both braces and a palate expander at the same time

bcs my dentist said i dont need palate expander

 

[rrm_ss2]

bcs my dentist said i dont need palate expander

than why try to expand your palate?

 

[Deleted member 125499]

than why try to expand your palate?

my dentist said i have wide palate but .org saying i have narrow
which is true?

 

[rrm_ss2]

my dentist said i have wide palate but .org saying i have narrow
which is true?

org

 

[Deleted member 125499]

org

 

[Deleted member 125499]

org

still org?

 

[rrm_ss2]

still org?

omg bro just measure it

 

[Deleted member 125499]

omg bro just measure it

okey

 

[diditeverbegin]

org

Listen to teenage incels or listen to a real doctor

 

[Deleted member 125499]

Listen to teenage incels or listen to a real doctor

oh, fr. i think its wide for 14 yo

 

[Deleted member 91663]

could i do or not?

Please tell you orthodontist that you're thumbpulling and record the reaction please.
Post it on here.

 

[diditeverbegin]

oh, fr. i think its wide for 14 yo

Bite an apple and measure the distance between your first molars, it looks wide.
Communities like this that are hyperfocused on certain things tend to call average below average and delude themselves, just look at who r/orthotropics calls recessed, some of them think O'Pry and Barrett are recessed

 

[iblamemoritz]

my dentist said i have wide palate but .org saying i have narrow
which is true?

probably wide enough for no health risks etc, but even wider palate is aestetically better, but i'm pretty sure your doctor wouldn't give you one just for beauty reasons. and no, i don't think thumbpulling works with braces, the only kind of thumbpulling that could work is pushing the palate up, so basically a mewing motion but with greater preasure because of the fingers being stronger

 

[Deleted member 104538]

nigga just drop the braces, if you're jaws don't grow big enough to have straight teeth by your 20's, then you can consider resuming treatment. You don't want braces interfering with your development.

 

[rrm_ss2]

Listen to teenage incels or listen to a real doctor

doctors avoid palate expander even if your palate is narrow

 

[diditeverbegin]

doctors avoid palate expander even if your palate is narrow

And how do you know this? I don't have actual statistics but a lot of orthodontists who post on YouTube say they give palate expanders and I know a few people who have received one.

 

[rrm_ss2]

And how do you know this? I don't have actual statistics but a lot of orthodontists who post on YouTube say they give palate expanders and I know a few people who have received one.

there are millions of dentists and orthodontists if 10 of them post a video of them giving a palate expander to a deformed kis that doesnt mean all of them will do the same thing

 

[diditeverbegin]

there are millions of dentists and orthodontists if 10 of them post a video of them giving a palate expander to a deformed kis that doesnt mean all of them will do the same thing

Do you have anything to back up your claim?

 

[Evgeniy291]

my dentist said i have wide palate but .org saying i have narrow
which is true?

Fix underbite first, if didnt work then get lip lift and filler. ur palette is fine

still org?

Ur palette is fine x2

Bite an apple and measure the distance between your first molars, it looks wide.
Communities like this that are hyperfocused on certain things tend to call average below average and delude themselves, just look at who r/orthotropics calls recessed, some of them think O'Pry and Barrett are recessed

O pry's jaw is in fact recessed, which you can see based on his lips, he did genie to mask it but lips don't lie


With barrett its the opposite, his jaw is good and lips are aligned, but chin is weak

probably wide enough for no health risks etc, but even wider palate is aestetically better, but i'm pretty sure your doctor wouldn't give you one just for beauty reasons. and no, i don't think thumbpulling works with braces, the only kind of thumbpulling that could work is pushing the palate up, so basically a mewing motion but with greater preasure because of the fingers being stronger

wide palette eliminates your chance for having hollow cheeks as the distance between cheeks and ur teeth decrease and ur teeth start to push ur cheeks out

nigga just drop the braces, if you're jaws don't grow big enough to have straight teeth by your 20's, then you can consider resuming treatment. You don't want braces interfering with your development.

braces help with development and fix ur face if u have malocclusions










Holy low iq thread

 

[Evgeniy291]

doctors avoid palate expander even if your palate is narrow

No its just that its not "narrow" its just that people here consider normal palette size narrow.

 

[diditeverbegin]

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O pry's jaw is in fact recessed, which you can see based on his lips, he did genie to mask it but lips don't lie

His top lip is protrusive but the possible recession is probably in the alveolar process. His e line and Frankfurt still look alright, but he is downgrown and could benefit from ccw rotation.

 

[muragoat]

No its just that its not "narrow" its just that people here consider normal palette size narrow.

do you consider 35mm IM width narrow enough to get sarpe

 

[diditeverbegin]

His top lip is protrusive but the possible recession is probably in the alveolar process. His e line and Frankfurt still look alright, but he is downgrown and could benefit from ccw rotation.

His lip honestly looks more incompetent than I thought.
@Evgeniy291

 

[rrm_ss2]

No its just that its not "narrow" its just that people here consider normal palette size narrow.

thats not normal at all if he had a normal sized palate he wouldnt be needing braces and more teeth would show up when he smiles

 

[rzazeynlov777]

bcs my dentist said i dont need palate expander

palate expander will make hole bettwen your middle teeth

 

[Evgeniy291]

do you consider 35mm IM width narrow enough to get sarpe

To me - no, would depend on his face. If he has fwhr less than 1.7 he would benefit from it

thats not normal at all if he had a normal sized palate he wouldnt be needing braces and more teeth would show up when he smiles

I had extremelycrooked teeth 2y ago before braces, now my teeth are straight and when I smile all of my teeth show up except for second molars cause mouth isn't as wide. If my mouth would be wider second molars would show up too.
No smile pictures before unfortunately
Jus took second pic for u

 

[muragoat]

To me - no, would depend on his face. If he has fwhr less than 1.7 he would benefit from it

I had extremelycrooked teeth 2y ago before braces, now my teeth are straight and when I smile all of my teeth show up except for second molars cause mouth isn't as wide. If my mouth would be wider second molars would show up too.
No smile pictures before unfortunately
Jus took second pic for u
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fwhr abt 1.8 with wider cheeckbones but narrow smile and buccal curridors. OVER

 

[diditeverbegin]

To me - no, would depend on his face. If he has fwhr less than 1.7 he would benefit from it

I had extremelycrooked teeth 2y ago before braces, now my teeth are straight and when I smile all of my teeth show up except for second molars cause mouth isn't as wide. If my mouth would be wider second molars would show up too.
No smile pictures before unfortunately
Jus took second pic for u
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What was your case? Your bite looked kind of deep. I'm so hopeful to get braces.

 

[rrm_ss2]

To me - no, would depend on his face. If he has fwhr less than 1.7 he would benefit from it

I had extremelycrooked teeth 2y ago before braces, now my teeth are straight and when I smile all of my teeth show up except for second molars cause mouth isn't as wide. If my mouth would be wider second molars would show up too.
No smile pictures before unfortunately
Jus took second pic for u
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showing teeth is one thing, needing braces is another. if you need braces than you have a narrow palate if your palate was wide enough from the start than it wouldnt have caused any problems

 

[Evgeniy291]

fwhr abt 1.8 with wider cheeckbones but narrow smile and buccal curridors. OVER

If ur concerned abt narrow smile yea u could get it, what's ur nose to lip width ratio?

What was your case? Your bite looked kind of deep. I'm so hopeful to get braces.

Deep bite with extreme crowding
similar to overbite, but with overbite upper teeth protrude forward mine weren't.

 

[Evgeniy291]

showing teeth is one thing, needing braces is another. if you need braces than you have a narrow palate if your palate was wide enough from the start than it wouldnt have caused any problems

My palette didnt change

 

[diditeverbegin]

Deep bite with extreme crowding
similar to overbite, but with overbite upper teeth protrude forward mine weren't.

I really hope I get braces. My teeth are straight but I have a deep bite and overjet, my orthodontist said the overjet is due to my canine being a tooth ahead of where it should be

 

[Evgeniy291]

I really hope I get braces. My teeth are straight but I have a deep bite and overjet, my orthodontist said the overjet is due to my canine being a tooth ahead of where it should be

How old r u also why hope, can't u just get them

 

[diditeverbegin]

showing teeth is one thing, needing braces is another. if you need braces than you have a narrow palate if your palate was wide enough from the start than it wouldnt have caused any problems

Does Barrett have a narrow palate

 

[rrm_ss2]

My palette didnt change

its not supposed to

 

[diditeverbegin]

How old r u also why hope, can't u just get them

I'm 15, it's just very expensive. It will be 10k for me an my sister together.

 

[rrm_ss2]

Does Barrett have a narrow palate

no and extracting wisdom teeth doesnt matter our modern life just fucked them up for everyone

 

[Evgeniy291]

I'm 15, it's just very expensive. It will be 10k for me an my sister together.

I got them for 700$ including all the next appointments until issue gets fixed lol

 

[diditeverbegin]

no and extracting wisdom teeth doesnt matter our modern life just fucked them up for everyone

He honestly has a somewhat constricted palate, if you look towards the back of his bite

 

[diditeverbegin]

I got them for 700$ including all the next appointments until issue gets fixed lol

Man I need a blessing like that

 

[iblamemoritz]

wide palette eliminates your chance for having hollow cheeks as the distance between cheeks and ur teeth decrease and ur teeth start to push ur cheeks out

imo a wide mid face is better than cheekbones, but yea you're right

 

[rrm_ss2]

He honestly has a somewhat constricted palate, if you look towards the back of his bite

he has all his teeth except his 3rd molars and his maxilla is overly grown so i dont think he has a narrow palate

 

[diditeverbegin]

he has all his teeth except his 3rd molars and his maxilla is overly grown so i dont think he has a narrow palate

It's not uber wide tho

 

[diditeverbegin]

he has all his teeth except his 3rd molars and his maxilla is overly grown so i dont think he has a narrow palate

I can't imagine how fucked someone has to be to not be able to fit their 2nd molars at least I'd rope

 

[rrm_ss2]

It's not uber wide tho

its not the widest palate ever but its wide enough to allot him maxilla to grow correctly and to keep all his teeth in normal shape

 

[rrm_ss2]

I can't imagine how fucked someone has to be to not be able to fit their 2nd molars at least I'd rope

true. but almost everyone has to take out their 3rd molars which is pretty sad ngl

 

[muragoat]

If ur concerned abt narrow smile yea u could get it, what's ur nose to lip width ratio?

1.18 suifuel. idk what to do abouth the buccal curridors if i widen the mouth

 

[Evgeniy291]

1.18 suifuel. idk what to do abouth the buccal curridors if i widen the mouth

Smile a bit so ur lips don't look shit. Idk what can be done w buccal corridors neither, I don't even know what makes them pop out I had buccal fat removal