Timothee Chalamet: bimax using Coceancig Line vs. Ramieri Bimax

[Dastan]

Incorrect, you Frankfurt plane line should be horizontal there’s why you morph looks ridiculous

 

[Blackgymmax]

One is very limited by his overall appeal and harmony. In order to be more attractive to women that were repulsed by you, you need drastic changes and that those changes not only are harmonious but also fit the standard where you live. It’s genuinely hard and mainly a matter of luck no matter how much people here say its about planing your ascension well.

The safest way to do things is to be already softmaxxed above average and do subtle natural surgeries to fix what you think is lacking. While going overboard may kill everything.

Going full aspie mode on surgeries should be reserved to absolute subhumans who have no hope left

I wouldn't say hard maxxing is for subhumans alone, if any of you gaycels reading have the balls to even try you still got my respect for trying

 

[Blackgymmax]

Incorrect, you Frankfurt plane line should be horizontal there’s why you morph looks ridiculous

Ye lol. It's a few mms too much. I don't know how anyone thinks this looks good lol

 

[coke]

You know hundreds of people have had surgery here and people get them every week but no one's really ascended to chad but the OGs due to shit phenos, lack of harmony etc etc. The best ascension on this site is literally @StreegeReturn and salludon lmao. I'm not saying you can't gain 0.5psl but "ascending isn't as much as you think it is. I'm sure eventually someone will get lucky and get all the surgeries right, having the best soft tissues pheno etc etc, however it hasn't happened yet else that person would be taking up their fame next to salludon

Hundreds? I've seen not very many get Bimax.

If you're really suffering in the looks department, then obviously Bimax isn't going to make you a chad, but it's going to make you look a hell of a lot better. I have good harmony, good structure in my cheek bones etc. I just have a weak jaw, I know I'd be happier with my jawline fixed, and in the long run I'll age better because of it, it reduces on-set of nasolabial folds, and gives you a more pronounced jaw. PSL Points don't matter, I've seen many examples, and the person in my opinion 95% of the time looks a lot better.

I'm not here to ascend for anyone but myself, I have a girlfriend, I'm happy with my career. I'm in a band, and whenever I get a professional photo, I hate my side profile. I look weak, and even when I have visible abs, my neck/jaw from the side is shit. I consulted with a maxillofacial surgeon who I told I have no intention of going to, but would like his personal advice, he said I have a great base, and will be very happy with the outcome if I go ahead. He advised me to avoid chin implants etc, and focus on getting my lower and upper jaw moved forward.

I don't really know what that means ''fame next to salludon'', but from my research, the majority of people look better after Bimax. I know I need it, it'll help me aesthetically, and save me a potential troublesome future with aging/potential breathing issues. My jaw from the side is similar to Tom Cruise when he was in his early 20s. A lot of people who get crazy results from Bimax refuse to share them, a well-known surgeon on here showed me a before and after that his patient didn't want public, but could be sent through E-mail, and it was incredible results, he didn't want it shared. It's maybe a vanity thing, maybe past insecurities, I don't know. I wouldn't share my results either, even if they were the best. Forum attention doesn't do anything for me, but this forum is great for garnering research.

 

[coke]

One is very limited by his overall appeal and harmony. In order to be more attractive to women that were repulsed by you, you need drastic changes and that those changes not only are harmonious but also fit the standard where you live. It’s genuinely hard and mainly a matter of luck no matter how much people here say its about planing your ascension well.

The safest way to do things is to be already softmaxxed above average and do subtle natural surgeries to fix what you think is lacking. While going overboard may kill everything.

Going full aspie mode on surgeries should be reserved to absolute subhumans who have no hope left

I'd actually like your opinion, as your knowledgeable. Do you think if I have a slightly recessive jaw/chin, that from the frontal profile isn't noticeable, it's worth getting bimax? I've been told by an NHS doctor, and 3 maxfac surgeons, Bimax+Genio is the way to go, and 2/3 said I'll have great results. I've been quite lucky, as I have cheek bones, decent face shape and harmony from the front. It's just my side profile, if I jut I can look alright, but that's embarrassing to do. It's almost as if my neck completely any jaw angle, I don't have any problems with girls or social life, but don't want to end up messing up my face just to get a more defined jaw.

I have a similar side profile to Cole Sprouse, it can look good from angles, but if I relax and just stood straight, my jaw/chin could look very similar to his in that hat image. If I get a photo taken and notice it, I hate it. I have done for many years, and was offered a chin implant 2 years back, before finding jaw surgery forums, and then coming across this website, I started to study properly.

 

[Deleted member 15854]

I have previously criticised the "Coceancig line" for jaw surgery, which is Paul Coceancig's standard for bimaxillary advancement.

He advances the nasal base, the incisor and the chin BONES to a line dropped from the nasal bone at a 90 degree angle against the Frankfurt plane. Remember this does not even take into account the soft tissue atop it.

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Here is Timothee Chalamet drawn with a coceancig line, dropping from the end of his nasal bone at the end of the Frankfurt plane:

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Here is Chalamet with the bones advanced to the line (approximately) with soft tissue overtop:

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and here is what a normal maxillofacial surgeon, like Ramieri would do... which is to bring the soft tissue (not bone) somewhere just behind that same line:

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The three compared:

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Obviously the normal bimax advancement is the best here, as it takes into account the individuals phenotype.

The Coceancig line only works for some phenotypes, seemingly ones with large noses and prominent foreheads. For many males, I predict it will produce uncanny looking results.

Before the Coceancig shills jump in, it is very hard to morph the Coceancig line advancement to look "good" so if Timothee actually got a Coceancig bimax in real life it might look better, but still dogmaxxed.

I strongly believe you can expect the best outcome from a regular bimax from someone like Ramieri, whose smaller movements also mean less risk of nerve damage.

would i get dogmaxxed with bimax? ive got similar problem as chalamet, think its just over for both of us

how do i fix my birdcel recession?

looksmax.org

 

[valhalar]

would i get dogmaxxed with bimax? ive got similar problem as chalamet, think its just over for both of us

how do i fix my birdcel recession?

looksmax.org

Probably not. You’d just need counter clockwise rotation to prevent it.

 

[Deleted member 15854]

Probably not. You’d just need counter clockwise rotation to prevent it.

hmm i see, how to get that? maxilla height reduction?