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Last thread of today. Iāve been giving you pure value today but this is the mother load. Been holding on this one for a long time. My original manifesto to get laid with matches on Tinder, same principles apply to IRL.
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Opening message doesnāt really matter what you write from my experience, she either is on the app and finds you attractive enough to respond or not.
You could try starting with a bait text if you like which I use if things fizzled out with a girl I was sleeping with and I want to hit her up after a month or whatever.
Basically itās anything that makes her want answer you back.
You could say hey I have a really important question I want to ask you.
If she responds and says whatās that?
You ask her if sheās a pizza lover or a little pizza hater?
(She donāt know this but sheās basically agreeing to go on a date with you for pizza as you put the idea of you her and pizza in her mind)
(Pizza could be anything but donāt tKe the girl out for a fancy or expensive date. Keep it simple and low cost cuz your not trying to impress her. I recommend going on dates you want to do as long as she doesnāt hate sushi go for what you want. At the very least you got to try a new sushi restaurant or go to your favorite place.)
You say pizza lover or hater is just a more interesting way of saying do you like pizza?
You can say do you love or hater pizza. Pizza positive or pizza negative?
Come up with something that fits your personality type.
If she says pizza lover
Who hates pizza?
You say āfirst and foremost itās a good thing your a pizza lover cuz your āsortaā cute and all but it you were a pizza hater I donāt think weād be very compatible. 2nd Ghandi Hated pizza.
The first message was a push pull or pull push which pulls her to you and pushes her away from you
The answer to who hates pizza use any historical or notorious person or a celebrity that would fit that question good like maybe a huge guy whoās known for eating everything in sight.
She may say who said I wanted us to be compatible?
You say I did
And your still talking to me so you know Iām right
When using emojis only use them to set tone and use them sparingly
this means nothing
that sets tone and if your being playful use the laughing emoji last, so the idea is 2-3 emojis max usually 2 and put the overall tone at the end. People read left to right so the wink face is a sub tone within with playful tone.
No matter what she says or does you want to come from a place if Iām awesome , the man and your lucky your talking to me cuz I donāt talk to just anybodY. You want to use the emojis to convey that you also donāt take yourself to to seriously though and are half playing around but you also still said it soooo.......
After that ask her a few questions now these can be standard questions but what sets you apart is every 3 answers or so she give you your gonna tease her on her answer and every 3-5 answers you give either give her a fun answer or a fun or fun Ny interesting story about why you chose that answer.
Do not interview her! It kills attraction and puts you in with all the boring nice guys.
You want to ask questions so she feels comfortable meeting a stranger off the internet but donāt ask her question after question with like if you donāt get all her info ASAP sheāll lose interest and move on.
Ask questions tease some of her answers and give her shit. When she tries to do the same to you donāt get rattled and hold your frame always. Donāt say sorry use self deprecating humor. If she mocks your shirt in your profile pic for example cuz you teased her shirt.
Say yeah i smell your bullshit lie through the phone you love that shirt.
How do I know cuz you swiped right?
She says I really donāt like it I swiped cuz I liked your other pics
You say stop hating on the shirt or Iām gonna show up in it when we meet for pizza.
The idea is the get into a conversation with her so she feels comfortable meeting a stranger off the internet.
Your also building enough comfort that you can take most women hone on first date.
So after some stories and questions if it doesnāt come up naturally just say when are you free to meet up for pizza?
Sheāll pick a day and you pick the time and place.
Be decisive and take the lead, donāt be all weāll do you like this place? Where do you want to go? Is that time okay?
If she says maybe Friday take the date away cuz sheās gonna flake. Maybe means maybe if Iām bored and have nothing else going on and feel like gracing you with my presence.
You ask her when sheās free so she picks the day. If you say are you free Thursday? No Friday? I have my sisters birthday, sat itās my friends baby shower sun maybe sun will work.
You just sub communicated to this gir that her time is more valuable than yours and you have nothing else going on in your life.
She can have any time she wants and youāll give it to her which means sheās above you on the social ladder and she wonāt value you or your time.
You want to ask her for the date on the first night or second night at latest.
(Some girls are only on dating apps to seek validation and make themselves feel better when the guy theyāre fucking isnāt showing them the attention they want.)
You donāt want to waste your time talking to a girl for a week or two and then nothing happens is a waste of your time.
When you set the date say text me at (insert your phone number)
I want to call you before we meet up to make sure you can carry a conversation and arenāt a crazy cat lady or something to keep things light.
Sheāll usually text you right away if she gives you her number and says I donāt text guys hereās my number.
Text her in 20 min or so and when your messaging say so I saw right through that little power move you did
Having me text you lol itās funny to me
Itās like just let her know your onto her power play bullshit lol. But keep it playful like you donāt care but your aware.
Her ego will blind her to the fact your sorta doing the same thing
The difference is when a women is in the leader role and power position they rarely respect or want the guy. If the girls cool cute and fun they guy wonāt care if sheās under him.
Women date across and up mean date across and down on social, financial, power ladder.
Women all want the captain of the football team type guy. Even if not that guy specifically they may want the leader of the art program or leader of the music program or bad boy who leads nothing but himself.
They want the top guy all the other girls want and the guy who doesnāt need them.
They all want the guy whoās a challenge because people donāt value things that are given easily to them.
Anyway now your in text at this point and have a date set for let say Friday night and you matched and first message on a Sunday night.
So sunday night your in text keep playing a little with her and be the one to end the conversation leaving her wanting more.
Tell her you gotta go and are gonna crash.
If she sends any kind of kiss emojis or anything donāt send them back.
You could write awww your giving me a kiss before bed thats cute and end it.
You donāt reciprocate. You might think this would turn her off but they want the guy who is a challenge to get and all the other suckers thinking sheās super into then and they have a girlfriend on the line will send the kiss emoji back but they wonāt get her.
So monday morning text her again in the early afternoon. Letās say 11 am and message her A little. After a little bit of texting tell her you gotta run and do something high value (gym,study,work) anything that says I get shit down without bragging.
Text her again at like 7 pm talk for a bit and leave her wanting more again.
Same thing Tuesday.
Wednesday you want to wait an hour or two later to text her so she has a chance to text you first which is the goal.
You want her to chase you and do 75% of the initiating.
So Wednesday you message her at 1 pm and 7 pm if she texts you first awesome if not just stick to the plan.
Thursday you donāt text her at all and see if she initiates but guess what you got a non needy reason to call her that night.
Your gonna call her wether she messages you or not and talk for 15-20 min max
Get off the phone and start off with a false time constraint.
Say I canāt talk long but I wanted to her your voice and make sure you can carry a conversation with me also make sure your not a crazy cat lady, yes I can tell by tone of voice lol
Itās like be cocky playful and donāt be afraid to take a sexual joke if she sets one up unintentionally, just start soft like talk about spanking first or something with butt or boob is less aggressive then her pussy. Your gonna build your talking about her pussy but everything is a big compliance test. Start slow and build and pay attention to what sheās okay complying to and what sheās not.
In text if a girls giving me shit and teasing me maybe she says what are you gonna do about it ?
I might say well Iām gonna give you a fair warning Iām a spanker so use your imagination...
Now sheāll 9.9/10 times respind positive and say thatās not much of a punishment.....
In which case sheās almost for sure ready for sex on first date.
The idea is to be playful challenging and banter with her. You always put yourself just a little bit above her as if you might agree sheās cool but you view yourself just a little bit cooler.
You can also qualify her by if she says something you like or have in common dont just love it too and agree with her.
Itās like she says I love breaking bad is my favorite show. Okay your doing good ranking up extra points.
Itās like if she asks you to play piano for her or something you mentioned you do (in a non Bragg way)
You say well keep doing what your doing and maybe youāll get to hear me play
The keyword is maybe and keep doing what your doing is like a low key way of saying I like how you been so far maybe youāll get to see what you want with the piano playing.
The whole thing is basically saying sheās selling herself to you and she has to work for your value.
If a girl sends you pics donāt compliment them directly cuz sheās seeking. Validation and let some other sucker do that.
Make her work for any validation from you and sheāll get it from sex. Cuz a high value man with lots of options chose her sexually is he validation she gets from you.
If she sends a pic I might say , you look ādecentā or compliment the background or way she took the pic or filter or say nothing at all.
If you compliment her even on the date what happens when you say you look really good. She says thank you. Thatās boring for her and she knows she looks good sheās been told how pretty she is everyday by tons of thirsty internet dudes.
Letās say she compliments me and says you look nice Iāll say yup I knowwith that playful attitude almost like Iām laughing about how cocky I am and then Iāll say yeah you look āalrightā
She might say just alright?
You say yup just alright I want you to be able to fit your head through the restaurant doors lol
Or yeah your all right as in you want me to kiss you all right and kiss her ( maybe mid date if your not comfortable going for it super early)
When texting you want texts to be back and forth like machine gun is how you build comfort fast and make it feel like a conversation. If she waits 30 min donāt keep tryna force machine gun texts.
Match her 30 min for a few texts and then be the leader and try breaking the text time gap and on like the 4 th messages message her back fast to show her itās okay to machine gun text.
Women match our text times too as not to be needy so if you both stay at 30 min then things wonāt progress the same as you want. If she still waits a half hour after you broke the time gap go back to 30 min for a few texts and try to cut it in half.
Then try to cut the 15 min to 5 then the5 to machine gun although if your at 5 min intervals isnāt bad. If sheās waiting for hours to text you back and your matching her time and randomly showing her itās okay to text back and forth and sheās not biting your Probably not doing something right and might want to consider being a little bit ballsier
You canāt be afraid to lose a girl if you want to get or keep her.
If your afraid to rock the boat she wonāt hate or dislike you you but wonāt really like or love you and youāll just be neutral and sheāll tell you no connection, no spark or better as friends or youāll just get ghosted.
They like a guy whoās ballsy and not afraid to lose her or scare her off. If what you say doesnāt turn her off it will usually be turning her on.
Donāt bring up eating her pussy in the first conversation isnāt necessarily good ballsy.
That almost self sabotaging cuz chances are sheās not gonna respond positively to that yet. By day 4 you should be safe to bring up more sexual topics no problem.
Most women are comfortable getting semi sexual via text before the date so anything. About massage, ass tits, my muscles, orgasms brought up properly, lips toungue nipples. Basically just build up to talking about your dick and her pussy.
So you went from match to message to set date to text to hopefully her texting you first but then to phone call and Friday date. Always leave her wanting more. Do you see how things are building fast?
On the date never set the second date on the first unless she literally brings up directly wanting to go on a second date and even then play it by ear.
Remain indifferently interested the whole time so obviously your interested since your talking to her and meeting with her but your not sure how much.....
If she asks what your looking for even if she says she wants a relationship you donāt tell her you want one too even if you do.instead say something like Iām looking for a girl I enjoy spending free time with and Iād be open to something more with the right girl
That gives her a challenge and your not willing to take just any girl. Your not desperate and are open to more but arenāt necessarily rushing into a relationship.
On the day of the date donāt get all insecure and ask if sheās still coming.
Thereās ways to do this without you being the needy one. Girls will be chasing and messaging me first at this point.
If they werenāt I would simply message them Iāll see you at the place at the time.
As if Iām presupposing sheās gonna show up.the way you say stuff is huge to make it like all the girls always show up so why would it be any different for her you know she wants to show up cuz sheās lucky to get to meet you so you know sheāll show is the attitude.
On the date when you first see her grab her and give her a big hug like youāve known her for ever. Squeeze her body right to yours hold for 3 seconds or so and donāt be afraid to smell her hair. Do what feels right and you want.
Donāt interview her on this date will turn her off or bore her most of the time.
Ask her 3 questions in more depth of whatās something your passionate about?
What was it like where you grew up? And whatās it actually like at your work or why did you choose that job.
You donāt have to learn her life story on the first date, since you know your getting a second date your just gonna her fun with her lead things to the bedroom and learn about her over time.
Kiss her within 15 min of the date.
You want to set the tone of man to woman sooner than later.
I might say okay letās play a game I want you to pick a number between 1-10 and Iām gonna read your mind.
Look into my eyes and try to send it to me.
Hey this doesnāt work when you keep tryi by to picture me naked.
Wait a few seconds
Stop picturing me naked!
Get up walk over to her side of the table take her by the chin and kiss her.
You could say You didnāt tell me you were a hypnotist, I canāt believe you just made me do that. Sheāll say I didnāt make you do that and kiss her again. Then say okay I take responsibility for that one.
Then sit down. Thereās a million ways you can run this kind of play.
I told a girl once in text my favorite feature on a girl was plush soft lips with lips gloss.
Then I just got up kissed her and said that was all your fault you knew what you were doing with that lip gloss.
Now youāve give her a real body to body hug kissed the girl twice within 15 min and
Can just continues to relax and have fun.
When I say ask 3 questions I donāt mean you canāt ask anymore than 3 I just mean thatās not you strategy or approach to the date. If a good question comes up naturally in the conversation absolutely ask it but your there to have fun and lead her to the bedroom not get to know her.
The 3 questions were literally asked so she can ask them back to you and she has something to tell her girlfriends more about you once sheās slept with you.
If you met her online you e already got to know her a lot to get her comfortable enough to meet a stranger off the internet anyway.
So just have fun tease her and banter with her. Make sure you touch her on the date,
I may show her something on my phone but I donāt show it across the booth I get up and sit next to her then put the phone in her hand and put my hand over hers while I show her.
Iāll probly kiss her there too and especially if I didnāt kiss her yet.
I might wrap my legs around hers under table after Iāve kissed her once or twice.
Donāt do this if your not tall enough that your slinking down to do it, thatās not a cool thing if your heads at the table or slunked down in your booth is not cool like if your tall enough to sit normal and do instead maybe rub her foot with yours.
I donāt split the bill but I say I got this check, if we decide to go out again you can get the next one.
A lot of times Iāll pre frame this before the date maybe on the phone call Iāll say it to her.
Getting every other check is a good way to split the bill without being cheap.
I also use it as an interest test cuz if sheās low interest but has character she wonāt let you pay the check in which case your better off walking to your car after you leave the spot and not look back. She may call you when she realizes she doesnāt have you anymore but you knew to play it like you werenāt really into her cuz if she wanted to see you again she would known she was gonna pay the next check.
If things went well she split the check walk her to her car makeout with her for a min maybe and say Iām going to the diner for coffee would you like to join me.
If she goes with you for dessert you can assume sheās gonna be willing to go to your place.
You can also flat out ask her to come back after the pizza place but if your not sure or nervous about rejection or getting girls back to your place then take her to a second spot first.
After second spot walk her to her car and say you wanna come over and watch a movie?
Or if you have a more interesting reason she would want to come over even better.
Anything that gives her plausible deniability. Donāt say Netflix and chill directly even if thatās what it is. If she says so Netflix and chill like a joke say you reading my mind just keep it light.
When back at your place donāt let her sit on the other side of the couch or different couch. What I mean by that is sheās there to sit with you but is nervous so you take the lead and say
Come sit with me and have her sit in your arms from the start.
This will get rid of any of that awkward trying to inch closer to each other thing
They want a take charge guy who whey can feel comfortable being insecure or nervous around but his confidence balances things out and sheās now sitting with him.
Have the put on a movie that light and not to captivating since your not trying to watch a movie anyway and make a move on her within 10-15 min before she can get sucked in the movie. Take her chin and kiss her again then snake out with her and escalate more by putting her on her back and just take your time going through the bases. If she stops you or is uncomfortable with anything donāt get angry bitter nervous or upset just simply say in a relaxing tone Iām in no rush and go back to what you were doing for a bit then let her go.
The idea is act as if you know your gonna get it cuz you always do so you know it will happen and it doesnāt have to be right then. Sometimes this will relax her and make her feel alright to have sex that night but if not youāll get her on the next date. The important thing is that things are at least progressing towards the direction of sex.
Tell her to text you when she gets hom safe and let her go.
This is a way to get her messaging you first after the date.
If she reaches out to you then youāll respond if she doesnāt wait until your ready to set the second date to message her.
If we went out Thursday or Friday id probably call her maybe Tuesday, or even Wednesday night and ask her when sheās free for another date.
If she initiated and messages me I donāt ignore her texts, I message her back when I can and am able to and always leave her wanting more so maybe Iāll banter back and forth for 20-30 min or so and tell her I gotta go and do something high value.
Not chasing her after the date is equally as important as what you do before the first date.
If a girl rejects you before the first date basically you didnāt make her cut and were not a potential sexual partner. If she goes on the first date but wonāt go out again then you made her cut initially but you turned her off and not she no longer views you as a potential sexual partner so thereās no reason to go out with you again.
Even if you want a relationship or something more you canāt let her know that and donāt show her you want more than sex by not sleeping with her and showing her how good a guy you are or how much you like her and then try to sleep with her cuz that donāt work.
Instead show her you want more by continuing to do the things you say your gonna do, continue to set dates and spend time with her while getting to know her over time. Sheās gotta win you over and your not just giving her all your time and attention cuz sheās hot.
Women will sleep with a guy they donāt want a relationship with but will not have a relationship with a guy they donāt want to have sex with
Make sure the things you say are high value without bragging. Donāt try to impress her, always hold frame so no matter what she says you know the truth and you said she thinks your hot so you believe it and know it and thatās just the way it is.if she really doesnāt it doesnāt like you then she wonāt keep talking to you.
Be indifferently interested at all times so you obviously are interested cuz your talking with her and seeing her but not sure how much and you speak in ifs and maybes. If she knows she has you whenever before sheās invested and basically in love donāt expect to see her again.
Women love a guy whoās a challenge and you can do this several ways. Challenging her verbally and challenging her by making her put in effort for your time are the two simplest.
Women need time to miss you and wonder what your doing for their attraction to grow.
Donāt get stuck in the routine text trap.
If sheās initiating routine text everyday sure respond to them but donāt get nervous or initiate with her just cuz she missed a day or two. You have to be cool with nobody initiating and you only initiating for dates even if sheās your girl.
If your initiating good morning and good night texts all they do is piss the girl off when you oversleep or fall asleep early and forget to send it. They hold no value to her after about a month. If however your randomly wake up early and send her a good morning text one day cuz your thinking about her sheāll be excited and thinking about that all day long.
The routine texts are just blah to her and puss her off when she donāt get them or sheāll think somethings wrong.
Donāt ignore her texts but you donāt have to initiate. You want her to be the one chasing women get turned off by minor insecurity like texting through the day most men wonāt.
If my girl texts me twice a day wonāt turn me off but over time it will turn her off.
Most texts initiating is from a place of insecurity and itās saying hey I still like you do you still like me or I donāt want you to forget about me. Even if thatās not what your thinking or feeling you get lumped in with all the needy insecure guys who do text like that.
So she wants a guy who wants her not one who needs her. Even in your wording you want to lose the word need and sorry.
If she messages you in the morning and you canāt respond till that night donāt say sorry or explain yourself to her. Message her back and if she asks directly tell her what was happened but you donāt apologize for being busy.
You donāt try to impress this girl at all cuz thatās something insecure guys do.
Donāt brag to her.
Just have fun with her tease her and challenge her.
TLDR: This is pure free unfiltered value not for ADHD-cels or Illiterate-cels
WARNING: IF YOU ARE COPING GTFOOpening message doesnāt really matter what you write from my experience, she either is on the app and finds you attractive enough to respond or not.
You could try starting with a bait text if you like which I use if things fizzled out with a girl I was sleeping with and I want to hit her up after a month or whatever.
Basically itās anything that makes her want answer you back.
You could say hey I have a really important question I want to ask you.
If she responds and says whatās that?
You ask her if sheās a pizza lover or a little pizza hater?
(She donāt know this but sheās basically agreeing to go on a date with you for pizza as you put the idea of you her and pizza in her mind)
(Pizza could be anything but donāt tKe the girl out for a fancy or expensive date. Keep it simple and low cost cuz your not trying to impress her. I recommend going on dates you want to do as long as she doesnāt hate sushi go for what you want. At the very least you got to try a new sushi restaurant or go to your favorite place.)
You say pizza lover or hater is just a more interesting way of saying do you like pizza?
You can say do you love or hater pizza. Pizza positive or pizza negative?
Come up with something that fits your personality type.
If she says pizza lover
Who hates pizza?
You say āfirst and foremost itās a good thing your a pizza lover cuz your āsortaā cute and all but it you were a pizza hater I donāt think weād be very compatible. 2nd Ghandi Hated pizza.
The first message was a push pull or pull push which pulls her to you and pushes her away from you
The answer to who hates pizza use any historical or notorious person or a celebrity that would fit that question good like maybe a huge guy whoās known for eating everything in sight.
She may say who said I wanted us to be compatible?
You say I did
And your still talking to me so you know Iām right
When using emojis only use them to set tone and use them sparingly
this means nothing that sets tone and if your being playful use the laughing emoji last, so the idea is 2-3 emojis max usually 2 and put the overall tone at the end. People read left to right so the wink face is a sub tone within with playful tone.No matter what she says or does you want to come from a place if Iām awesome , the man and your lucky your talking to me cuz I donāt talk to just anybodY. You want to use the emojis to convey that you also donāt take yourself to to seriously though and are half playing around but you also still said it soooo.......
After that ask her a few questions now these can be standard questions but what sets you apart is every 3 answers or so she give you your gonna tease her on her answer and every 3-5 answers you give either give her a fun answer or a fun or fun Ny interesting story about why you chose that answer.
Do not interview her! It kills attraction and puts you in with all the boring nice guys.
You want to ask questions so she feels comfortable meeting a stranger off the internet but donāt ask her question after question with like if you donāt get all her info ASAP sheāll lose interest and move on.
Ask questions tease some of her answers and give her shit. When she tries to do the same to you donāt get rattled and hold your frame always. Donāt say sorry use self deprecating humor. If she mocks your shirt in your profile pic for example cuz you teased her shirt.
Say yeah i smell your bullshit lie through the phone you love that shirt.
How do I know cuz you swiped right?
She says I really donāt like it I swiped cuz I liked your other pics
You say stop hating on the shirt or Iām gonna show up in it when we meet for pizza.
The idea is the get into a conversation with her so she feels comfortable meeting a stranger off the internet.
Your also building enough comfort that you can take most women hone on first date.
So after some stories and questions if it doesnāt come up naturally just say when are you free to meet up for pizza?
Sheāll pick a day and you pick the time and place.
Be decisive and take the lead, donāt be all weāll do you like this place? Where do you want to go? Is that time okay?
If she says maybe Friday take the date away cuz sheās gonna flake. Maybe means maybe if Iām bored and have nothing else going on and feel like gracing you with my presence.
You ask her when sheās free so she picks the day. If you say are you free Thursday? No Friday? I have my sisters birthday, sat itās my friends baby shower sun maybe sun will work.
You just sub communicated to this gir that her time is more valuable than yours and you have nothing else going on in your life.
She can have any time she wants and youāll give it to her which means sheās above you on the social ladder and she wonāt value you or your time.
You want to ask her for the date on the first night or second night at latest.
(Some girls are only on dating apps to seek validation and make themselves feel better when the guy theyāre fucking isnāt showing them the attention they want.)
You donāt want to waste your time talking to a girl for a week or two and then nothing happens is a waste of your time.
When you set the date say text me at (insert your phone number)
I want to call you before we meet up to make sure you can carry a conversation and arenāt a crazy cat lady or something to keep things light.
Sheāll usually text you right away if she gives you her number and says I donāt text guys hereās my number.
Text her in 20 min or so and when your messaging say so I saw right through that little power move you did
Having me text you lol itās funny to me
Itās like just let her know your onto her power play bullshit lol. But keep it playful like you donāt care but your aware.
Her ego will blind her to the fact your sorta doing the same thing
The difference is when a women is in the leader role and power position they rarely respect or want the guy. If the girls cool cute and fun they guy wonāt care if sheās under him.
Women date across and up mean date across and down on social, financial, power ladder.
Women all want the captain of the football team type guy. Even if not that guy specifically they may want the leader of the art program or leader of the music program or bad boy who leads nothing but himself.
They want the top guy all the other girls want and the guy who doesnāt need them.
They all want the guy whoās a challenge because people donāt value things that are given easily to them.
Anyway now your in text at this point and have a date set for let say Friday night and you matched and first message on a Sunday night.
So sunday night your in text keep playing a little with her and be the one to end the conversation leaving her wanting more.
Tell her you gotta go and are gonna crash.
If she sends any kind of kiss emojis or anything donāt send them back.
You could write awww your giving me a kiss before bed thats cute and end it.
You donāt reciprocate. You might think this would turn her off but they want the guy who is a challenge to get and all the other suckers thinking sheās super into then and they have a girlfriend on the line will send the kiss emoji back but they wonāt get her.
So monday morning text her again in the early afternoon. Letās say 11 am and message her A little. After a little bit of texting tell her you gotta run and do something high value (gym,study,work) anything that says I get shit down without bragging.
Text her again at like 7 pm talk for a bit and leave her wanting more again.
Same thing Tuesday.
Wednesday you want to wait an hour or two later to text her so she has a chance to text you first which is the goal.
You want her to chase you and do 75% of the initiating.
So Wednesday you message her at 1 pm and 7 pm if she texts you first awesome if not just stick to the plan.
Thursday you donāt text her at all and see if she initiates but guess what you got a non needy reason to call her that night.
Your gonna call her wether she messages you or not and talk for 15-20 min max
Get off the phone and start off with a false time constraint.
Say I canāt talk long but I wanted to her your voice and make sure you can carry a conversation with me also make sure your not a crazy cat lady, yes I can tell by tone of voice lol
Itās like be cocky playful and donāt be afraid to take a sexual joke if she sets one up unintentionally, just start soft like talk about spanking first or something with butt or boob is less aggressive then her pussy. Your gonna build your talking about her pussy but everything is a big compliance test. Start slow and build and pay attention to what sheās okay complying to and what sheās not.
In text if a girls giving me shit and teasing me maybe she says what are you gonna do about it ?
I might say well Iām gonna give you a fair warning Iām a spanker so use your imagination...
Now sheāll 9.9/10 times respind positive and say thatās not much of a punishment.....
In which case sheās almost for sure ready for sex on first date.
The idea is to be playful challenging and banter with her. You always put yourself just a little bit above her as if you might agree sheās cool but you view yourself just a little bit cooler.
You can also qualify her by if she says something you like or have in common dont just love it too and agree with her.
Itās like she says I love breaking bad is my favorite show. Okay your doing good ranking up extra points.
Itās like if she asks you to play piano for her or something you mentioned you do (in a non Bragg way)
You say well keep doing what your doing and maybe youāll get to hear me play
The keyword is maybe and keep doing what your doing is like a low key way of saying I like how you been so far maybe youāll get to see what you want with the piano playing.
The whole thing is basically saying sheās selling herself to you and she has to work for your value.
If a girl sends you pics donāt compliment them directly cuz sheās seeking. Validation and let some other sucker do that.
Make her work for any validation from you and sheāll get it from sex. Cuz a high value man with lots of options chose her sexually is he validation she gets from you.
If she sends a pic I might say , you look ādecentā or compliment the background or way she took the pic or filter or say nothing at all.
If you compliment her even on the date what happens when you say you look really good. She says thank you. Thatās boring for her and she knows she looks good sheās been told how pretty she is everyday by tons of thirsty internet dudes.
Letās say she compliments me and says you look nice Iāll say yup I know
with that playful attitude almost like Iām laughing about how cocky I am and then Iāll say yeah you look āalrightā She might say just alright?
You say yup just alright I want you to be able to fit your head through the restaurant doors lol
Or yeah your all right as in you want me to kiss you all right and kiss her ( maybe mid date if your not comfortable going for it super early)
When texting you want texts to be back and forth like machine gun is how you build comfort fast and make it feel like a conversation. If she waits 30 min donāt keep tryna force machine gun texts.
Match her 30 min for a few texts and then be the leader and try breaking the text time gap and on like the 4 th messages message her back fast to show her itās okay to machine gun text.
Women match our text times too as not to be needy so if you both stay at 30 min then things wonāt progress the same as you want. If she still waits a half hour after you broke the time gap go back to 30 min for a few texts and try to cut it in half.
Then try to cut the 15 min to 5 then the5 to machine gun although if your at 5 min intervals isnāt bad. If sheās waiting for hours to text you back and your matching her time and randomly showing her itās okay to text back and forth and sheās not biting your Probably not doing something right and might want to consider being a little bit ballsier
You canāt be afraid to lose a girl if you want to get or keep her.
If your afraid to rock the boat she wonāt hate or dislike you you but wonāt really like or love you and youāll just be neutral and sheāll tell you no connection, no spark or better as friends or youāll just get ghosted.
They like a guy whoās ballsy and not afraid to lose her or scare her off. If what you say doesnāt turn her off it will usually be turning her on.
Donāt bring up eating her pussy in the first conversation isnāt necessarily good ballsy.
That almost self sabotaging cuz chances are sheās not gonna respond positively to that yet. By day 4 you should be safe to bring up more sexual topics no problem.
Most women are comfortable getting semi sexual via text before the date so anything. About massage, ass tits, my muscles, orgasms brought up properly, lips toungue nipples. Basically just build up to talking about your dick and her pussy.
So you went from match to message to set date to text to hopefully her texting you first but then to phone call and Friday date. Always leave her wanting more. Do you see how things are building fast?
On the date never set the second date on the first unless she literally brings up directly wanting to go on a second date and even then play it by ear.
Remain indifferently interested the whole time so obviously your interested since your talking to her and meeting with her but your not sure how much.....
If she asks what your looking for even if she says she wants a relationship you donāt tell her you want one too even if you do.instead say something like Iām looking for a girl I enjoy spending free time with and Iād be open to something more with the right girl
That gives her a challenge and your not willing to take just any girl. Your not desperate and are open to more but arenāt necessarily rushing into a relationship.
On the day of the date donāt get all insecure and ask if sheās still coming.
Thereās ways to do this without you being the needy one. Girls will be chasing and messaging me first at this point.
If they werenāt I would simply message them Iāll see you at the place at the time.
As if Iām presupposing sheās gonna show up.the way you say stuff is huge to make it like all the girls always show up so why would it be any different for her you know she wants to show up cuz sheās lucky to get to meet you so you know sheāll show is the attitude.
On the date when you first see her grab her and give her a big hug like youāve known her for ever. Squeeze her body right to yours hold for 3 seconds or so and donāt be afraid to smell her hair. Do what feels right and you want.
Donāt interview her on this date will turn her off or bore her most of the time.
Ask her 3 questions in more depth of whatās something your passionate about?
What was it like where you grew up? And whatās it actually like at your work or why did you choose that job.
You donāt have to learn her life story on the first date, since you know your getting a second date your just gonna her fun with her lead things to the bedroom and learn about her over time.
Kiss her within 15 min of the date.
You want to set the tone of man to woman sooner than later.
I might say okay letās play a game I want you to pick a number between 1-10 and Iām gonna read your mind.
Look into my eyes and try to send it to me.
Hey this doesnāt work when you keep tryi by to picture me naked.
Wait a few seconds
Stop picturing me naked!
Get up walk over to her side of the table take her by the chin and kiss her.
You could say You didnāt tell me you were a hypnotist, I canāt believe you just made me do that. Sheāll say I didnāt make you do that and kiss her again. Then say okay I take responsibility for that one.
Then sit down. Thereās a million ways you can run this kind of play.
I told a girl once in text my favorite feature on a girl was plush soft lips with lips gloss.
Then I just got up kissed her and said that was all your fault you knew what you were doing with that lip gloss.
Now youāve give her a real body to body hug kissed the girl twice within 15 min and
Can just continues to relax and have fun.
When I say ask 3 questions I donāt mean you canāt ask anymore than 3 I just mean thatās not you strategy or approach to the date. If a good question comes up naturally in the conversation absolutely ask it but your there to have fun and lead her to the bedroom not get to know her.
The 3 questions were literally asked so she can ask them back to you and she has something to tell her girlfriends more about you once sheās slept with you.
If you met her online you e already got to know her a lot to get her comfortable enough to meet a stranger off the internet anyway.
So just have fun tease her and banter with her. Make sure you touch her on the date,
I may show her something on my phone but I donāt show it across the booth I get up and sit next to her then put the phone in her hand and put my hand over hers while I show her.
Iāll probly kiss her there too and especially if I didnāt kiss her yet.
I might wrap my legs around hers under table after Iāve kissed her once or twice.
Donāt do this if your not tall enough that your slinking down to do it, thatās not a cool thing if your heads at the table or slunked down in your booth is not cool like if your tall enough to sit normal and do instead maybe rub her foot with yours.
I donāt split the bill but I say I got this check, if we decide to go out again you can get the next one.
A lot of times Iāll pre frame this before the date maybe on the phone call Iāll say it to her.
Getting every other check is a good way to split the bill without being cheap.
I also use it as an interest test cuz if sheās low interest but has character she wonāt let you pay the check in which case your better off walking to your car after you leave the spot and not look back. She may call you when she realizes she doesnāt have you anymore but you knew to play it like you werenāt really into her cuz if she wanted to see you again she would known she was gonna pay the next check.
If things went well she split the check walk her to her car makeout with her for a min maybe and say Iām going to the diner for coffee would you like to join me.
If she goes with you for dessert you can assume sheās gonna be willing to go to your place.
You can also flat out ask her to come back after the pizza place but if your not sure or nervous about rejection or getting girls back to your place then take her to a second spot first.
After second spot walk her to her car and say you wanna come over and watch a movie?
Or if you have a more interesting reason she would want to come over even better.
Anything that gives her plausible deniability. Donāt say Netflix and chill directly even if thatās what it is. If she says so Netflix and chill like a joke say you reading my mind just keep it light.
When back at your place donāt let her sit on the other side of the couch or different couch. What I mean by that is sheās there to sit with you but is nervous so you take the lead and say
Come sit with me and have her sit in your arms from the start.
This will get rid of any of that awkward trying to inch closer to each other thing
They want a take charge guy who whey can feel comfortable being insecure or nervous around but his confidence balances things out and sheās now sitting with him.
Have the put on a movie that light and not to captivating since your not trying to watch a movie anyway and make a move on her within 10-15 min before she can get sucked in the movie. Take her chin and kiss her again then snake out with her and escalate more by putting her on her back and just take your time going through the bases. If she stops you or is uncomfortable with anything donāt get angry bitter nervous or upset just simply say in a relaxing tone Iām in no rush and go back to what you were doing for a bit then let her go.
The idea is act as if you know your gonna get it cuz you always do so you know it will happen and it doesnāt have to be right then. Sometimes this will relax her and make her feel alright to have sex that night but if not youāll get her on the next date. The important thing is that things are at least progressing towards the direction of sex.
Tell her to text you when she gets hom safe and let her go.
This is a way to get her messaging you first after the date.
If she reaches out to you then youāll respond if she doesnāt wait until your ready to set the second date to message her.
If we went out Thursday or Friday id probably call her maybe Tuesday, or even Wednesday night and ask her when sheās free for another date.
If she initiated and messages me I donāt ignore her texts, I message her back when I can and am able to and always leave her wanting more so maybe Iāll banter back and forth for 20-30 min or so and tell her I gotta go and do something high value.
Not chasing her after the date is equally as important as what you do before the first date.
If a girl rejects you before the first date basically you didnāt make her cut and were not a potential sexual partner. If she goes on the first date but wonāt go out again then you made her cut initially but you turned her off and not she no longer views you as a potential sexual partner so thereās no reason to go out with you again.
Even if you want a relationship or something more you canāt let her know that and donāt show her you want more than sex by not sleeping with her and showing her how good a guy you are or how much you like her and then try to sleep with her cuz that donāt work.
Instead show her you want more by continuing to do the things you say your gonna do, continue to set dates and spend time with her while getting to know her over time. Sheās gotta win you over and your not just giving her all your time and attention cuz sheās hot.
Women will sleep with a guy they donāt want a relationship with but will not have a relationship with a guy they donāt want to have sex with
Make sure the things you say are high value without bragging. Donāt try to impress her, always hold frame so no matter what she says you know the truth and you said she thinks your hot so you believe it and know it and thatās just the way it is.if she really doesnāt it doesnāt like you then she wonāt keep talking to you.
Be indifferently interested at all times so you obviously are interested cuz your talking with her and seeing her but not sure how much and you speak in ifs and maybes. If she knows she has you whenever before sheās invested and basically in love donāt expect to see her again.
Women love a guy whoās a challenge and you can do this several ways. Challenging her verbally and challenging her by making her put in effort for your time are the two simplest.
Women need time to miss you and wonder what your doing for their attraction to grow.
Donāt get stuck in the routine text trap.
If sheās initiating routine text everyday sure respond to them but donāt get nervous or initiate with her just cuz she missed a day or two. You have to be cool with nobody initiating and you only initiating for dates even if sheās your girl.
If your initiating good morning and good night texts all they do is piss the girl off when you oversleep or fall asleep early and forget to send it. They hold no value to her after about a month. If however your randomly wake up early and send her a good morning text one day cuz your thinking about her sheāll be excited and thinking about that all day long.
The routine texts are just blah to her and puss her off when she donāt get them or sheāll think somethings wrong.
Donāt ignore her texts but you donāt have to initiate. You want her to be the one chasing women get turned off by minor insecurity like texting through the day most men wonāt.
If my girl texts me twice a day wonāt turn me off but over time it will turn her off.
Most texts initiating is from a place of insecurity and itās saying hey I still like you do you still like me or I donāt want you to forget about me. Even if thatās not what your thinking or feeling you get lumped in with all the needy insecure guys who do text like that.
So she wants a guy who wants her not one who needs her. Even in your wording you want to lose the word need and sorry.
If she messages you in the morning and you canāt respond till that night donāt say sorry or explain yourself to her. Message her back and if she asks directly tell her what was happened but you donāt apologize for being busy.
You donāt try to impress this girl at all cuz thatās something insecure guys do.
Donāt brag to her.
Just have fun with her tease her and challenge her.
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