To everyone saying i’m larping abt the surgery.

[Deleted]

Gonna book the consultation somewhere around next week and get it Done before December.

You’re about the witness the biggest ascension in psl history.

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Cope more incel

 

[Deleted member 4430]

You’re about the witness the biggest ascension in psl history.

from HTN to HTN

 

[Deleted]

from HTN to HTN

You hate on me for rotting but you also hate on me for social interactions. You hate on me saying i dont improve but also hate on me for hardmaxxing

Imagine being one of the ugliest and oldest users thinking you have an opinion

 

[noobeater]

Arvid what are u trying to get?

 

[Deleted]

Cope more incel

How it cope retard its literally what this site is about.

 

[Deleted]

Arvid what are u trying to get?

Its surgical hairline lowering where they cut the scalp and move your hairline down on the forehead.

 

[noobeater]

Its surgical hairline lowering where they cut the scalp and move your hairline down on the forehead.

I really don’t think this will change you that much but whatever

 

[Deleted]

I really don’t think this will change you that much but whatever

We’ll see Buddy boyo

 

[Deleted member 4430]

Imagine being one of the ugliest and oldest users thinking you have an opinion

dont be so hard on yourself man, youre still young

 

[Deleted member 18840]

How it cope retard its literally what this site is about.

U will never be chad im sorry

 

[Deleted]

U will never be chad im sorry

Whatever you say

 

[Deleted member 11097]

Useless surgery, you already look good as is

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Whatever you say

Unless u suck my cock

 

[Deleted]

Useless surgery, you already look good as is

This is my best front pic for a reason

My face looks better with a small compared to a large forehead

 

[Deleted member 4430]

U will never be chad im sorry

vrais mots jamais prononcés

 

[Deleted member 11097]

This is my best front pic for a reason
View attachment 1800362

It has nothing to do with your hairline and more to do with the vibe of the photo. Light, colouring

 

[Deleted]

Unless u suck my cock

Nah i’ve been told Pakistanis have smol pps

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Nah i’ve been told Pakistanis have smol pps

@Salludon and me beg to differ. Also im not paki but still would bang

 

[Deleted]

@Salludon and me beg to differ. Also im not paki but still would bang

”I’m kurdish”

 

[Deleted member 18840]

”I’m kurdish”

Yes

 

[Amnesia]

this site is now about convincing people not to get surgery. This procedure fundamentally changes your facial third ratios, it can be a game changer

 

[Deleted]

Yes

No such thing

 

[Deleted member 18840]

this site is now about convincing people not to get surgery. This procedure fundamentally changes your facial third ratios, it can be a game changer

He should get it but its not gonna change his life or make him reach one tier more. He needs jaw angles implants, nose job, lips fat graft and stubble to hide that disgusting philtrum, on top of ht

 

[Deleted]

this site is now about convincing people not to get surgery. This procedure fundamentally changes your facial third ratios, it can be a game changer

Yes literally its become normie land where people dont want you to improve.

My facial thirds excluding my widows peak is literally
Upper 1.12
Middle 1.00
Lower 1.02
Meaning that even by non dimorphic normie standards it would be an improvement to get it lowered

(actual ideal is around upper 0.8 but depends on midface ratio etc)

Many users are literally against gymcelling aswell which i have plenty of irl experience to disprove muh just be twink.

 

[Deleted member 11097]

this site is now about convincing people not to get surgery. This procedure fundamentally changes your facial third ratios, it can be a game changer

In what fucking world does he need surgery jfl?

Just because you’re obsessed with your fucking minor flaws that are literally irrelevant in the real world doesn’t mean one has to get surgery.

He looks perfectly fine as is.

The problem is that these type of forums are full of autistic social rejects who believe that changing one single thing will suddenly make them become successful with women.

 

[Deleted]

The problem is that these type of forums are full of autistic social rejects who believe that changing one single thing will suddenly make them become successful with women

I wear bangs or fringe in all of my pics ever since the buzzed ones. You could argue this girl could just get a fringe but that would be high effort and outside in a coastal down wind is very strong. Her quality of life undeniably improved and so did her appeal to men.

Obviously the pic is less and more forehead but just look at the forum in a vacum

 

[Deleted member 11097]

I wear bangs or fringe in all of my pics ever since the buzzed ones. You could argue this girl could just get a fringe but that would be high effort and outside in a coastal down wind is very strong. Her quality of life undeniably improved and so did her appeal to men.
View attachment 1800375
Obviously the pic is less and more forehead but just look at the forum in a vacum

A woman without hair is not the same thing as a male without hair.

Also your hairline is not receding. It’s just that your hair implants are higher up which doesn’t look weird to anyone outside this autistic forum.

 

[Pendejo]

It has nothing to do with your hairline and more to do with the vibe of the photo. Light, colouring

And you think it would look as good if he had his hair slicked back? Lol.

 

[wollet2]

will they remove forehead skin to bring hairline down? will you feel skin tighten?

 

[Deleted member 11097]

And you think it would look as good if he had his hair slicked back? Lol.

Slicked back hair is hard to pull off even when you’re good looking. You need a perfectly shaped skull with masculine features to actually pull it off. There’s a reason you don’t see many guys rocking a slicked back hairstyle.

 

[Amnesia]

will they remove forehead skin to bring hairline down? will you feel skin tighten?

It works as a way to tighten your forehead a bit too so it's almost like a facelift, will help with looking younger/reducing future forehead wrinkles. There doesn't seem to be a big group reporting post operation discomfort with tight forehead skin

 

[Deleted]

Also your hairline is not receding. It’s just that your hair implants are higher up which doesn’t look weird to anyone outside this autistic forum.

Quick reminder

Cant take this shit much longer (subhuman pill)

My brother legit told me when i picked him up ”You need to take a taxi to go from your eyevbrows to your hairline. I legit cant take this shit much longer i’m going to rope If the hair transplant i’m getting becomes botched. This isnt the first time he’s commented on my forehead either that...

looksmax.org

Asked my ex to roast me once and she Said i have an 8 head. Theres a reason she’s my ex

 

[Deleted]

will they remove forehead skin to bring hairline down? will you feel skin tighten?

Yes but the skin stretches out s bit over time making it less tight. You can get s balloon in ur skull that you pump up in order to stretch the skin more incase its too firm for the surgery

 

[Deleted]

It works as a way to tighten your forehead a bit too so it's almost like a facelift, will help with looking younger/reducing future forehead wrinkles. There doesn't seem to be a big group reporting post operation discomfort with tight forehead skin

Have you checked your scalp laxity?


Mine is pretty good when doing it like the vide and i can pull my hair back and down to the desired height aswell meaning i almost certainly Will be able to get my skin stretched that far.

 

[chadison]

In what fucking world does he need surgery jfl?

Just because you’re obsessed with your fucking minor flaws that are literally irrelevant in the real world doesn’t mean one has to get surgery.

He looks perfectly fine as is.

The problem is that these type of forums are full of autistic social rejects who believe that changing one single thing will suddenly make them become successful with women.

the issue with this site is it promotes bdd which tricks users into thinking they are forever ugly and the only possible chance of escape from their ugliness is more drastic changes (generally surgery). Many users, including me, thought this or that thing would help, and they all did, but the image of the self never shifts in the brain. As a result, I see myself today as MORE UGLY than I did before I took the blackpill, even though objectively I have gained nearly 2 points on the decile SMV scale, or nearly 1.5psl points.

This is likely becuase people here are more intelligent and aware than the norm, and learn the science/math of attravtiveness (facial ratios, proportions, coloring, etc). They then focus on those and all they see is how far away they are from the ideal numbers, when in reality if you took a sample of average Joes on the street the guy here would be 2 standard deviations to the right of average attractiveness, the problem is he now only compares himself to the 1 in a million people with ideal ratios, literal MODELS but his brain convinces him everyone else also looks like the models except himself.

Truly, a lot of people here after looksmaxxing for a few years are more stuck on their inherent personality and default thinking patterns. The problem with improving looks is that you see the success in social situations and with women and become hooked to it. Its like food, and its easy to keep eating but after a while you need to stop and do other things, but lots of guys here keep eating it until they become obese and its all their life revolves around. Unfortunately diminishing returns exist, and an adept individual realizes when his looksmaxxing efforts have hit them and it is better to invest time in other endeavors (career, friendships, etc).

So users here must do two things. 1) they must get used to the superficial nature of people and simultaneously 2) realize no one, including themselves, will ever be perfect and stop CHASING A FUCKING IDEAL THEY CAN NEVER ACHIEVE because after a while the diminishing returns are HUGE. But like a gambler, they keep pulling the lever even though they KNOW they won’t win anything big in the long run, in the hopes of a temporary hit (in this case, the hit is another surgery, which briefly tricks them into thinking they’ve finally “ascended,” only to shortly later revert back to thinking they’re ugly again, and the cycle continues). Let me say, I am not shitting on arvid, amnesia, anyone else here for their efforts, I applaud them and think they’ve contributed a lot to the forum. But I do think more surgeries for guys like them is pretty much useless, the amount they’ll gain is marginal as they already have or are doing the stuff with the highest ROI, they should spend their time doing more productive things like finding a passion in work or a hobby or whatnot.

KEEP WRITIN ESSAYS CHADISON U FAG dnrd

 

[Amnesia]

Have you checked your scalp laxity?


Mine is pretty good when doing it like the vide and i can pull my hair back and down to the desired height aswell meaning i almost certainly Will be able to get my skin stretched that far.
View attachment 1800394

yeah mine is pretty good, I can pull it down enough to where I would want my new hairline to be

 

[Deleted member 11097]

the issue with this site is it promotes bdd which tricks users into thinking they are forever ugly and the only possible chance of escape from their ugliness is more drastic changes (generally surgery). Many users, including me, thought this or that thing would help, and they all did, but the image of the self never shifts in the brain. As a result, I see myself today as MORE UGLY than I did before I took the blackpill, even though objectively I have gained nearly 2 points on the decile SMV scale, or nearly 1.5psl points.

This is likely becuase people here are more intelligent and aware than the norm, and learn the science/math of attravtiveness (facial ratios, proportions, coloring, etc). They then focus on those and all they see is how far away they are from the ideal numbers, when in reality if you took a sample of average Joes on the street the guy here would be 2 standard deviations to the right of average attractiveness, the problem is he now only compares himself to the 1 in a million people with ideal ratios, literal MODELS but his brain convinces him everyone else also looks like the models except himself.

Truly, a lot of people here after looksmaxxing for a few years are more stuck on their inherent personality and default thinking patterns. The problem with improving looks is that you see the success in social situations and with women and become hooked to it. Its like food, and its easy to keep eating but after a while you need to stop and do other things, but lots of guys here keep eating it until they become obese and its all their life revolves around. Unfortunately diminishing returns exist, and an adept individual realizes when his looksmaxxing efforts have hit them and it is better to invest time in other endeavors (career, friendships, etc).

So users here must do two things. 1) they must get used to the superficial nature of people and simultaneously 2) realize no one, including themselves, will ever be perfect and stop CHASING A FUCKING IDEAL THEY CAN NEVER ACHIEVE because after a while the diminishing returns are HUGE. But like a gambler, they keep pulling the lever even though they KNOW they won’t win anything big in the long run, in the hopes of a temporary hit (in this case, the hit is another surgery, which briefly tricks them into thinking they’ve finally “ascended,” only to shortly later revert back to thinking they’re ugly again, and the cycle continues). Let me say, I am not shitting on arvid, amnesia, anyone else here for their efforts, I applaud them and think they’ve contributed a lot to the forum. But I do think more surgeries for guys like them is pretty much useless, the amount they’ll gain is marginal as they already have or are doing the stuff with the highest ROI, they should spend their time doing more productive things like finding a passion in work or a hobby or whatnot.

KEEP WRITIN ESSAYS CHADISON U FAG dnrd

Well said.


Most guys should focus on the mental aspect of life instead of trying to improve their packaging.


Most guys look decent but fail to get any females due to the simple fact that they lack basic social interactions and are introverted.
They never developed a social circle, hobbies or skills for that matter, so when it comes to interacting with another human being, the only thing they can say is “well, I sit alone in my room 24/7”.

That in a social environment doesn’t slide because you are seen as that one boring uninteresting person that brings nothing to the table, therefore not a single person would want to talk to you.

 

[Amnesia]

the issue with this site is it promotes bdd which tricks users into thinking they are forever ugly and the only possible chance of escape from their ugliness is more drastic changes (generally surgery). Many users, including me, thought this or that thing would help, and they all did, but the image of the self never shifts in the brain. As a result, I see myself today as MORE UGLY than I did before I took the blackpill, even though objectively I have gained nearly 2 points on the decile SMV scale, or nearly 1.5psl points.

This is likely becuase people here are more intelligent and aware than the norm, and learn the science/math of attravtiveness (facial ratios, proportions, coloring, etc). They then focus on those and all they see is how far away they are from the ideal numbers, when in reality if you took a sample of average Joes on the street the guy here would be 2 standard deviations to the right of average attractiveness, the problem is he now only compares himself to the 1 in a million people with ideal ratios, literal MODELS but his brain convinces him everyone else also looks like the models except himself.

Truly, a lot of people here after looksmaxxing for a few years are more stuck on their inherent personality and default thinking patterns. The problem with improving looks is that you see the success in social situations and with women and become hooked to it. Its like food, and its easy to keep eating but after a while you need to stop and do other things, but lots of guys here keep eating it until they become obese and its all their life revolves around. Unfortunately diminishing returns exist, and an adept individual realizes when his looksmaxxing efforts have hit them and it is better to invest time in other endeavors (career, friendships, etc).

So users here must do two things. 1) they must get used to the superficial nature of people and simultaneously 2) realize no one, including themselves, will ever be perfect and stop CHASING A FUCKING IDEAL THEY CAN NEVER ACHIEVE because after a while the diminishing returns are HUGE. But like a gambler, they keep pulling the lever even though they KNOW they won’t win anything big in the long run, in the hopes of a temporary hit (in this case, the hit is another surgery, which briefly tricks them into thinking they’ve finally “ascended,” only to shortly later revert back to thinking they’re ugly again, and the cycle continues). Let me say, I am not shitting on arvid, amnesia, anyone else here for their efforts, I applaud them and think they’ve contributed a lot to the forum. But I do think more surgeries for guys like them is pretty much useless, the amount they’ll gain is marginal as they already have or are doing the stuff with the highest ROI, they should spend their time doing more productive things like finding a passion in work or a hobby or whatnot.

KEEP WRITIN ESSAYS CHADISON U FAG dnrd

I agree with what you said and the unfortunate reality is that having a good starting base is very important.


I look at looksmaxxing and surgery as a hobby at this point. It's fun to look up ways to improve and then research possible surgeries. With that said there are lines I will never cross with the more risky surgeries like LL. I have a realistic outlook that I don't actually think I will gain any significant looks improvement

There's a perfect storm on this site with hyperbole and exxageration mixed with autistic people that can't detect it as well as normies so you might have @ArvidGustavsson claim he's doomed forever without forehead reduction and people think he's being 100 percent serious (when I don't think he really is) but that's lost on many where people think him or me literally want to die if we don't get X or X surgery when in reality we DO want it for our own reasons but don't think we are fucked if we don't

However maybe I shouldn't speak for him, that's how I feel

 

[Pendejo]

Most guys look decent but fail to get any females due to the simple fact that they lack basic social interactions and are introverted.
They never developed a social circle, hobbies or skills for that matter, so when it comes to interacting with another human being, the only thing they can say is “well, I sit alone in my room 24/7”.

Yeah and?

 

[chadison]

Well said.


Most guys should focus on the mental aspect of life instead of trying to improve their packaging.


Most guys look decent but fail to get any females due to the simple fact that they lack basic social interactions and are introverted.
They never developed a social circle, hobbies or skills for that matter, so when it comes to interacting with another human being, the only thing they can say is “well, I sit alone in my room 24/7”.

That in a social environment doesn’t slide because you are seen as that one boring uninteresting person that brings nothing to the table, therefore not a single person would want to talk to you.

exactly. the value of a person is not just in looks, but also things you can do, make, create. However, working to improve your appearance in general is no doubt beneficial. Eating right, working out, surgery for falios, skin care, fashion, etc. All healthy looksmaxxing outlets everyone should be educated on, IMO. But not years of chasing perfection in small and expensive facial operations

 

[Deleted]

surgery for falios

Exactly. So your previous shit was meaningless

 

[Deleted]

@ArvidGustavsson claim he's doomed forever without forehead reduction and people think he's being 100 percent serious

I’m not doomed w out it but it Will improve quality of life and i have the money so No reason not to

 

[Erik-Jón]

Its surgical hairline lowering where they cut the scalp and move your hairline down on the forehead.

Yours looks fine

 

[Amnesia]

Yours looks fine

"fine" doesn't cut it. Are we on reddit?

Spoiler

jk, arvid looks great rn but I support him in his surgery journey

 

[Deleted member 18694]

Yours looks fine

there's surgeries that are justified and some like this which is just absurd. Most tiktok E-boys have big foreheads but hide it with frontal hair covering

 

[Deleted]

there's surgeries that are justified and some like this which is just absurd. Most tiktok E-boys have big foreheads but hide it with frontal hair covering

I just cut myself a fringe (looks goofy rn but not finished) but wind is my enemy and i’ve had girls pull my hair back during sex which was so fkn brutal

 

[Deleted]

"fine" doesn't cut it. Are we on reddit?

Spoiler

jk, arvid looks great rn but I support him in his surgery journey

Unironically though it definitly doesnt cut it If you Want the best quality of life

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I really don’t think this will change you that much but whatever

agreed, just fraud with tiktok cut so nobody sees.

 

[AlexBrown84]

Worth it