top 10 best philosophies

[ＩＣＲ]

1. Icr
2. nominalism
3. atomism
4. monism
5. atheism
6. hard determinism
7. empiricism
8. right wing progressivism
9. virtue ethics
10. cosmism

Nice

 

[ngannou]

democritus who made up atomism and materialism was a philosopher who was truth seaking not a fucking elite jewish guy

do you know that ancient greeks are occultists???

 

[JewishNationalist]

What is right wing progressive

right wing traditionally means hierarchism and progressivism (aka progress) means a development from simple things to more complex ones (for example, from barbarianism to civilization).
basically right wing progressivism is somewhat a tautology because we see hierarchies emerge through progress, like we know early human societies were egalitarian before first civilization in anatolia and the more civilization develops the more hierarchical it is

 

[JewishNationalist]

do you know that ancient greeks are occultists???

someone like pythogoras maybe
democritus or just most pre-socratics no

 

[americanpakitruvcel]

right wing traditionally means hierarchism and progressivism (aka progress) means a development from simple things to more complex ones (for example, from barbarianism to civilization).
basically right wing progressivism is somewhat a tautology because we see hierarchies emerge through progress, like we know early human societies were egalitarian before first civilization in anatolia and the more civilization develops the more hierarchical it is

Not very well read on philosophy or most disciplines in general but this does sound interesting, any general philosophy recs?

 

[ngannou]

someone like pythogoras maybe
democritus or just most pre-socratics no

cope pythagoras was also an occultist

 

[JewishNationalist]

cope pythagoras was also an occultist

yeah i just said it

 

[Klasik616]

yeah that philosophy has many problems (how could non-living beings feel anything if they don't have nerves?)

yeah true. life on earth emerged through chemical reaction, when an astreroid brought DNA to earth that already had water (comets brought water) and through millions of years it all evolved from single celled beings to more complex ones.
and consciousness is a result of our brains work, aka mind is not something immaterial actually yeah. even descrates who thought mind being immaterial faced a problem known as mind-body problem and couldn't ever solve it. modern science shows him being wrong

Good. I'm not against science. I'm an idealist trying to save up the concept of "trascendence" with evolution and biology. I don't think all beings are set up for trascendence like idealists thought, only certain ones cappable of having more powers than others will pass the test of time and become Godlike, achieving inmunity and less dependence on other physical beings (more like spirits).

 

[Zenis]

1. materialism
2. nominalism
3. atomism
4. monism
5. atheism
6. hard determinism
7. empiricism
8. right wing progressivism
9. virtue ethics
10. cosmism

Im making my own philosophy as well speak

 

[ＩＣＲ]

Nah but fr here is my list

1. Stoicism
2. Existentialism
3. Nihilism
4. Rationalism
5. Empiricism
6. Absurdism
7. Kantian Deontology
8. Utilitarianism
9. Pragmatism
10. Aristotelianism

 

[mxl4chi1]

i read this as "top 10 best pedophiles"

 

[ngannou]

yeah i just said it

ancient helenism itself was an occult

Occult Magic in Ancient Greece and Rome | TheCollector

Many ancient Greeks and Romans turned to magic to solve their problems. While the practitioners' objectives were often viewed with suspicion, magic was a legitimate religious practice.

www.thecollector.com

 

[Klasik616]

Nah but fr here is my list

1. Stoicism
2. Existentialism
3. Nihilism
4. Rationalism
5. Empiricism
6. Absurdism
7. Kantian Deontology
8. Utilitarianism
9. Pragmatism
10. Aristotelianism

Pragmatism is the worst philosophy I've ever read during university. It's like saying, we don't know why or is it true or false but it works for humans so we will accept it as truth. It's easy to understand, easy to defend but essentially lazy and anti-philosophical.

 

[ＩＣＲ]

Pragmatism is the worst philosophy I've ever read during university. It's like saying, we don't know why or is it true or false but it works for humans so we will accept it as truth. It's easy to understand, easy to defend but essentially anti-philosophical.

I didn't think of any other one tbh

 

[JewishNationalist]

, any general philosophy recs?

start studying philosophy with pre-socratics (with heraclitus and democritus being the best ones), then plato (a shit philosopher but very influential), then aristotle (a very good one), then ofc stoics, hedonists etc especially skeptics
in roman philosophy im uneducated myself but i would recommend you plotinus. a shit philosopher but again very influential and important to our history.
in medieval philosphy almost everything is shit except for Occam but start with augustine ig, anselm, then thomas aquinas and his opponent duns scotus. then read William Occam who was a student of duns scotus and he's the best medieval philosopher imo.
in modern age philosophy there are many good ones like Montaigne, Francois de la Rochefoucauld, Spinoza, Hume etc but also many shit ones like descrates or locke. i still wouldn't ignore shit philosophers if they are very influential because its good for general brain development to know them.
after Hume you should start studying classical german philosophy with Kant, then shopenhaur, hegel etc. ofc nietzsche.
then philosophy became boring imo but you can read spengler or heidegger

 

[JewishNationalist]

ancient helenism itself was an occult

Occult Magic in Ancient Greece and Rome | TheCollector

Many ancient Greeks and Romans turned to magic to solve their problems. While the practitioners' objectives were often viewed with suspicion, magic was a legitimate religious practice.

www.thecollector.com

yeah ancient greeks were pagan except for their smartest philosophers like aristotle or democritus

 

[JewishNationalist]

Nah but fr here is my list

1. Stoicism
2. Existentialism
3. Nihilism
4. Rationalism
5. Empiricism
6. Absurdism
7. Kantian Deontology
8. Utilitarianism
9. Pragmatism
10. Aristotelianism

many of that contradicts to each other bruh
how can you have existentialism or nihilism in the same list with aristotelianism or deontology lol
or deontology with utilitarianism

 

[ＩＣＲ]

many of that contradicts to each other bruh
how can you have existentialism or nihilism in the same list with aristotelianism or deontology lol
or deontology with utilitarianism

I like them

 

[JewishNationalist]

Good. I'm not against science. I'm an idealist trying to save up the concept of "trascendence" with evolution and biology. I don't think all beings are set up for trascendence like idealists thought, only certain ones cappable of having more powers than others will pass the test of time and become Godlike, achieving inmunity and less dependence on other physical beings (more like spirits).

well i don't believe in anything transcendent but if it gets proved to exist then i will accept it

 

[0ogrpostcel]

dualism contradicts to materialism so nah

They don’t contradict each other?

 

[JewishNationalist]

Pragmatism is the worst philosophy I've ever read during university. It's like saying, we don't know why or is it true or false but it works for humans so we will accept it as truth. It's easy to understand, easy to defend but essentially lazy and anti-philosophical.

coherent and correspond concepts of truth are better than pragmatism yeah
pragmatism is retarded, like we still would believe in geocentric model if he were using this truth model

 

[JewishNationalist]

They don’t contradict each other?

if everything is material then how could there be some another transcedent reality lol

 

[Klasik616]

start studying philosophy with pre-socratics (with heraclitus and democritus being the best ones), then plato (a shit philosopher but very influential), then aristotle (a very good one), then ofc stoics, hedonists etc especially skeptics
in roman philosophy im uneducated myself but i would recommend you plotinus. a shit philosopher but again very influential and important to our history.
in medieval philosphy almost everything is shit except for Occam but start with augustine ig, anselm, then thomas aquinas and his opponent duns scotus. then read William Occam who was a student of duns scotus and he's the best medieval philosopher imo.
in modern age philosophy there are many good ones like Montaigne, Francois de la Rochefoucauld, Spinoza, Hume etc but also many shit ones like descrates or locke. i still wouldn't ignore shit philosophers if they are very influential because its good for general brain development to know them.
after Hume you should start studying classical german philosophy with Kant, then shopenhaur, hegel etc. ofc nietzsche.
then philosophy became boring imo but you can read spengler or heidegger

I know you don't like empirists but take a look on Edmund Husserl, he is very original and worth reading. Noesis - Noema. Operational intentionality. Mathematization of sciences. World of living. Phenomenological time. Trascendental subject...

 

[JewishNationalist]

I know you don't like empirists but take a look on Edmund Husserl, he is very original and worth reading imho.

why do you think i don't like empiricism?
i literally put this philosophy in top 7 in my list
although i think the rationalism vs. empiricism debate was very retarded and philsophers themselves pointed out that reasoning and empirical researches co-exist rather than conflict (rational thought itself leads us to emperical investigation )

 

[JewishNationalist]

I know you don't like empirists but take a look on Edmund Husserl, he is very original and worth reading imho. Noesis - Noema. Operational intentionality. Epoje. Mathematization of sciences. World of living. Phenomenological time. Trascendental subject.

i think kant was wrong so yep husserl is also wrong but i agree on him being original
both were thinking that reason is some monad rather than a complex thing consists of many components thus wrong in their philosophies.

 

[ngannou]

yeah ancient greeks were pagan except for their smartest philosophers like aristotle or democritus

guys like platon was occultist

 

[ngannou]

well i don't believe in anything transcendent but if it gets proved to exist then i will accept it

 

[JewishNationalist]

aristotle's prime mover is not a personal god and not a creator of the universe
and btw he made up the prime mover concept to explain moves and debunk parmenides. although heraclitus explanation of moves is a better thing than aristotelian
its just thomas aquinas was using his concept to prove christian gods existence yet none of his arguments prove christian god as they more like prove prime mover (still weak because as i said heraclitus explain everything better with lesser assumptions

 

[Meteor21]

Mogged by hedonism

 

[AscendHQ]

Shut up nigger

 

[JewishNationalist]

Mogged by hedonism

hedonism was debunked by science when researches found out that most people wouldn't like to feel pleasure 24/7

 

[Meteor21]

hedonism was debunked by science when researches found out that most people wouldn't like to feel pleasure 24/7

Those researchers are depressed, hedonism would fix them

 

[JewishNationalist]

Good. I'm not against science. I'm an idealist trying to save up the concept of "trascendence" with evolution and biology. I don't think all beings are set up for trascendence like idealists thought, only certain ones cappable of having more powers than others will pass the test of time and become Godlike, achieving inmunity and less dependence on other physical beings (more like spirits).

honestly, if philosophy came in the democritus path rather than platonic then human civilization would be much more developed nowadays
we can thank aristotle but still his hylomorphism is wrong. although closer to truth than platonism. we would still live in medieval society if we were following plato rather than aristotle. but still democritus mogs

 

[Slavurik]

1. materialism
2. nominalism
3. atomism
4. monism
5. atheism
6. hard determinism
7. empiricism
8. right wing progressivism
9. virtue ethics
10. cosmism

Judaism

 

[Barreton]

Materialism be like: "I know that everything is physical, all the evidence is right here, inside my exclusively non-physical consciousness"

 

[JewishNationalist]

Materialism be like: "I know that everything is physical, all the evidence is right here, inside my exclusively non-physical consciousness"

consciousness is also physical

 

[Barreton]

consciousness is also physical

Then measure it, touch it, see it, move it. Point to where you see the consciousness inside a brain.

 

[JewishNationalist]

Then measure it, touch it, see it, move it. Point to where you see the consciousness inside a brain.

consciousness is brain's function and works with activation of certain combinations of neurons. so you can't really measure it or touch it since its a very complex combination of organized active neurons. neurons are physical thus consciosness is also physical but you can't touch it because its too complex and doesn't have one concrete centre

 

[Yliaster]

by materialism i mean that the universe is fundamentally material aka physical
read summary on democritus philosophy on this topic tbh

Quantum Mechanics literally debunks that Theory into insignificance you do understand ?

Also from what I gather about you based on your posts is that you are most likely morbidly left brained i.e.
utterly unable to grasp the idea of anything beyond your 5 limited physical senses, which is why Concepts like
Quantum Mechanics or even Leibniz's Monadology will seem like gibberish whereas in reality it comes
closest to the understanding the fundamental Nature of Reality which is that Matter is subservient to Mind
and the latter is responsible for the birth of the former.

I even asked you a similar question in another one of your threads regarding whether or not you believe in
Mind as a seperate existence and *crickets" never got a response meanwhile you replied to everyone else.

 

[Yliaster]

Then measure it, touch it, see it, move it. Point to where you see the consciousness inside a brain.

You should ask him instead to touch the Internet or locate Electricity from its original source

Waste of time arguing with this kid he seems deliberately edgy and obtuse

 

[Canni]

1. materialism
2. nominalism
3. atomism
4. monism
5. atheism
6. hard determinism
7. empiricism
8. right wing progressivism
9. virtue ethics
10. cosmism

Bump

 

[JewishNationalist]

Quantum Mechanics literally debunks that Theory into insignificance you do understand ?

how?

Also from what I gather about you based on your posts is that you are most likely morbidly left brained i.e.

nah im good at creative things especially drawing

utterly unable to grasp the idea of anything beyond your 5 limited physical senses, which is why Concepts like
Quantum Mechanics or even Leibniz's Monadology will seem like gibberish whereas in reality to comes
closest to the understanding the fundamental Nature of Reality which is that Matter is subservient to Mind
and the latter is responsible for the birth of the former.

nah its just way too retarded
do you reality think anyones reason existed before their brain emerged in the womb lmfao
otherwise how could reason create matter if its always that reason cannot work without brain since its brain's function lol

I even asked you a similar question in another one of your threads regarding whether or not you believe in
Mind as a seperate existence and *crickets" never got a response meanwhile you replied to everyone else.

mind doesn't have separate existence. descrates thought that shit too yet wasn't able to solve mind-body problem that emerged if you think mind exists independentely from body lol.

 

[Barreton]

consciousness is brain's function and works with activation of certain combinations of neurons. so you can't really measure it or touch it since its a very complex combination of organized active neurons. neurons are physical thus consciosness is also physical but you can't touch it because its too complex and doesn't have one concrete centre

I ought to have said “material” rather than “physical”.

I wouldn't call consciousness physical, but if you consider information like the laws of physics physical, then I guess.

 

[JewishNationalist]

I ought to have said “material” rather than “physical”.

I wouldn't call consciousness physical, but if you consider information like the laws of physics physical, then I guess.

physics is just a science that explains how material world operates
no better explanation of the world exists yet
other explanatory systems like christianity, platonism or whatever just fail and are retarded

 

[Yliaster]

Materialism be like: "I know that everything is physical, all the evidence is right here, inside my exclusively non-physical consciousness"

People like OP are infants on the path of knowledge and you need to be patient with them

Imagine the arrogance of Humans who only uses 1/3 of our Brain's potential along with 5 limited physical
senses thinking we should grasp God and the Concept of Infinity.

We are like Insects watching Humans build Aircrafts and Skyscrapers in the grand universal scheme.

 

[JewishNationalist]

People like OP are infants on the path of knowledge and you need to be patient with them

Imagine the arrogance of Humans with our 5 limited physical senses thinking we should grasp God and
the Concept of Infinity.

We are like Insects watching Humans build Aircrafts and Skyscrapers in the grand universal scheme.

nothing can be higher than our president/tsar. let alone some fictional god

 

[Yliaster]

how?

nah im good at creative things especially drawing

nah its just way too retarded
do you reality think anyones reason existed before their brain emerged in the womb lmfao
otherwise how could reason create matter if its always that reason cannot work without brain since its brain's function lol

mind doesn't have separate existence. descrates thought that shit too yet wasn't able to solve mind-body problem that emerged if you think mind exists independentely from body lol.

Where does Electricity come from ? like where is it located in stasis without the use of Conduits to bring
it into Manifestation.

""Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real. If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly
shocked you, you haven't fully understood it" - Neils Bohrs

 

[JewishNationalist]

Where does Electricity come from ? like where is it located in stasis without the use of Conduits to bring
it into Manifestation.

located in atoms and accumulates on surfaces

 

[Barreton]

physics is just a science that explains how material world operates
no better explanation of the world exists yet
other explanatory systems like christianity, platonism or whatever just fail and are retarded

Well what are we really talking about then

It's more about the perspective of what is the higher form of reality, and on a quantum level it seems information appears to come out on top.

On the material level, material is constantly changing, it is subject to the seemingly immutable immaterial laws of physics.

And all these conclusions are formed from our immaterial observations of immaterial consciousness.

A lot of this is just based on which way you're looking at it, though.

 

[JewishNationalist]

Well what are we really talking about then

It's more about the perspective of what is the higher form of reality, and on a quantum level it seems information appears to come out on top.

On the material level, material is constantly changing, it is subject to the seemingly immutable immaterial laws of physics.

And all these conclusions are formed from our immaterial observations of immaterial consciousness.

A lot of this is just based on which way you're looking at it, though.

quantums themselves are material so as consiousness and laws of physics are just our own made up things that explain how material world operates