Big game performances > ability.
thats exactly what im saying to messi copers.messi has been mogged by his own teamattes in international events.players like dimaria made a bigger difference than him and he barely wins anything with argentina even tho as a team its much better than portugal which ronaldo always carries by himself even winning team the euro which no one believed was even possible
Messi is still a big game player people just like to focus too much on his shits performance and forget the many big games where he shined
bro have you watched the whole match?he literally made 0 mistakes and im not even exagerating also his faggot teammate missed a crazy opportunity ronaldo gave him on a silver plate
Eder carried Portugal
Messi is a joke for Argentina, always has been and always will be.
Messi has more man of the matches in finals than ronaldo
Ronaldo is much better in the biggest games, though.
Not much better
no one mogs messi in his shining days but the point is that he isnt nearly as consistent as ronaldo or even close as being as key as ronaldo is,ronaldo carried every team he played in and won everything in every league he has been in meanwhile messi only shined at barca and the only time he had to leave the team to go play for argentina he often got overshadowed by the likes of dimaria on big games
I still think Messi is better cause I’ve never seen anyone who can dribble like him, no one who has scored the goals he has, getting past some times the whole team, his ability is just the best that’s ever been seen
Cristiano Ronaldo in the CL:
now this is a fair point the only thing where messi clearly mogs cr7 is playmaking but remember that messi plays in a less forward position
In messi’s prime he played up top and still had insane playmaking, he dribbled and passed and scored
Messi was like one Higuain failo away from WC trophy. If HigZ had scored, Messi’s goat status would’ve been undisputed.
Messi got his team to a world cup final with a shit team. Could Ronaldo do that?
Ronaldo has literally more CL and International assists than Messi, jfl.
Literally worse than Higuain ever did.Ronaldo has played in the CL twice more than Messi has
a shit team?argentina always mogged portugal what are you talking about?
Messi literally had 0 assists+goals in the 2014 World Cup knockout phase, lol.
Indeed, but Messi should’ve scored that chance in first half tbh but his teammates like Higuain and Palacio shit the bed, whereas Gotze scored a much harder chance
Still highly unlikely Messi will ever better those numbers. Messi will probably retire before Ronaldo does.
bro read my posts before barking ngl,i clearly said messi mogs cr7 in playmaking but its not true ronaldo cant playmake
Oh ok I thought you were saying he was better at Messi at playmaking
It was not the carry everyone make it seem to be, with every team cr7 played in he had a great team around him and even when there was no big names on the team like Portugal for example they still played very well as a whole. When Messi has a bad day nobody step up for him like they do for cr7, that argentina team as alway been dysfunctional and depended too much on messi and one good game from di Maria doesn't change that.
nah messi clearly mogs in that regard but ogre said he never seen ronaldo playmake jfl
Yup, but the point is that it’s ridiculous to boil down who is/is not the goat on one match.
Messi is very unlucky sometimes its crazy
The 2014 argentina team and and 2016 team were nearly equally shit.
bro this is tera cope ngl,i cant remember a match where ronaldo teammates werent a liability to him. more often than not ronaldo does everything and teamates only end up fucking shit he creates lol
ok but when did portugal mog argenntina in terms of players quality?
Messi has more international assistsRonaldo has literally more CL and International assists than Messi, jfl.
Muh Higuain was shit. Let me guess, Tevez, Di Maria, Riquelme, Mascherano, Zanetti, Crespo, Zabaletta, Cambiasso and co. were all shit as well? Excuses.
Imagine thinking Ronaldo would miss here
Messi has made more chances, his teammates just don’t finishRonaldo has literally more CL and International assists than Messi, jfl.
Muh Higuain was shit. Let me guess, Tevez, Di Maria, Riquelme, Mascherano, Zanetti, Crespo, Zabaletta, Cambiasso and co. were all shit as well? Excuses.
Imagine thinking Ronaldo would miss here
well name one portuguese player that mogs any of those tbh excluding ronaldo obviously(not talking about figo and shit in ronaldo messi timeline)
Messi bring way more than goals and assist, just is presence put a big pressure on the opposition and they have to make adjustments to keep him from getting the ball anywhere on the pitch as much as possible during the whole game this give other players of his team a lot of freedom and create opportunities for them. You will tell me cr7 too but no when cr7 isnt close to the goal he isnt as much of a threat as messi.
Messi played with all of the players that I mentioned, at some point. And the 2014 team had Higuain, Aguero, Di Maria, Mascherano and Zabaleta, all very good players.
messi main quality besides scoring which both him and cr7 have is dribbling right?messi has been mogged already in dribbles success % by the likes of fellow moroccan boufal meanwhile i cant think of any player EVER that mogs cr7 in air battles or long rang shots and overall versatility is his finishing
Well now there is many (Ruben Dias, Bruno fernandes, etc) but before then I can't think of a single player but as a whole the team functioned better as whole tactically than Argentina did.
