Tretinoin still worth it for Collagen if one experiences Fat loss? Are the alternatives enough?

[Soalian]

I've been using Retin-a for about ten months now, once every other day, applied to whole face up to cheekbones (so minus eye area).

I can see noticeable hollowing of the undereye area now, despite not applying the Tretinoin there.

But the benefits of Tretinoin on my skin clarity and complexion have been quite significant;

I wouldn't be ready to give up the use, if it weren't for the subcutaneous fat loss.

Can I still quit the Retin-a, and be successful coping with alternative solutions for Collagenmaxxing, with similar results (Vitamin C serum, Hyaluronic acid, Matrixyl 3000, Microneedling, Red Light therapy,etc...) ?

Thanks

 

[hiT]

I've been using Retin-a for about ten months now, once every other day, applied to whole face up to cheekbones (so minus eye area).

I can see noticeable hollowing of the undereye area now, despite not applying the Tretinoin there.

But the benefits of Tretinoin on my skin clarity and complexion have been quite significant;

I wouldn't be ready to give up the use, if it weren't for the subcutaneous fat loss.

Can I still quit the Retin-a, and be successful coping with alternative solutions for Collagenmaxxing, with similar results (Vitamin C serum, Hyaluronic acid, Matrixyl 3000, Microneedling, Red Light therapy,etc...) ?

Thanks

What's your current skincare routine?

 

[Deleted member 275]

I put 0.1% retin on my stomache for 4 months twice/day and now I have abs cuz it removed all the fat there.

 

[RoundHouse]

I put 0.1% retin on my stomache for 4 months twice/day and now I have abs cuz it removed all the fat there.

1.0 is better for abs tbh

 

[Soalian]

What's your current skincare routine?

Daily:

A.M.

Cleaning face with cold water
ACV toner
Vitamin C serum
Sunscreen

P.M.

Cleaning face/Exfoliating with AHAs (Glycolic acid)
Vitamin C serum
Tretinoin
Moisturizer
Vaseline as occlusive on sensitive areas, in order to seal in moisture
Hyaluronic acid serum
Zinc/Niacinamide serum



Not daily:

Azelaic acid under eyes for plumping of the area
Melano CC on dark spots to help fade them
Hydroquinone on dark spots to help fade them
Matrixyl 3000 with argineline serum (3-4 times per week)
Ghk-Cu serum (3-4 times per week)



Not skincare:



Daily Red Light therapy (10 minutes 660nm red and 850nm near-infrared light, five times daily)
Microneedling with Dermapen once weekly



Other:

Ghkc-Cu peptide injection (8mg daily, five times a week)
GHRP-2/CJC-1295 (150mcg three times daily before meals)



Oral supplementation:



Vitamin C powder
MSM
Glucosamine
Hydrolyzed Collagen powder (occasionally)
Glycine powder

 

[Deleted member 5349]

It’s a meme, I’ve been using it for about a year now and I’m still a bloatcel

 

[Soalian]

It’s a meme, I’ve been using it for about a year now and I’m still a bloatcel

You not using it right then.

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Daily:

A.M.

Cleaning face with cold water
ACV toner
Vitamin C serum
Sunscreen

P.M.

Cleaning face/Exfoliating with AHAs (Glycolic acid)
Vitamin C serum
Tretinoin
Moisturizer
Vaseline as occlusive on sensitive areas, in order to seal in moisture
Hyaluronic acid serum
Zinc/Niacinamide serum



Not daily:

Azelaic acid under eyes for plumping of the area
Melano CC on dark spots to help fade them
Hydroquinone on dark spots to help fade them
Matrixyl 3000 with argineline serum (3-4 times per week)
Ghk-Cu serum (3-4 times per week)



Not skincare:



Daily Red Light therapy (10 minutes 660nm red and 850nm near-infrared light, five times daily)
Microneedling with Dermapen once weekly



Other:

Ghkc-Cu peptide injection (8mg daily, five times a week)
GHRP-2/CJC-1295 (150mcg three times daily before meals)



Oral supplementation:



Vitamin C powder
MSM
Glucosamine
Hydrolyzed Collagen powder (occasionally)
Glycine powder

When do you use the Matrixyl? In the AM or PM? You're not supposed to use Matrixyl with any acids including vit c + matrixyl and also clashes with efficacy of copper peptides too...

 

[Soalian]

When do you use the Matrixyl? In the AM or PM? You're not supposed to use Matrixyl with any acids including vit c + matrixyl and also clashes with efficacy of copper peptides too...

Yes I just wrote the entire routine in theory, but I never do it all at the same time.

I rotate Ghk-cu and Matrixyl/Argineline actually, I mainly use the Matrixyl in the evening

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Yes I just wrote the entire routine in theory, but I never do it all at the same time.

I rotate Ghk-cu and Matrixyl/Argineline actually, I mainly use the Matrixyl in the evening

So you use matrixyl before or after tret?