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𝕲𝕰𝕹𝕰𝕿𝕴𝕮 𝕱𝕬𝕿𝕬𝕷𝕴𝕾𝕿 -- ᛏᚱᚢᛏᚺ
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How has the recovery been?nice, I remember messaging you a while back. I'm like 1 week post op with Ramieri atm
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How has the recovery been?nice, I remember messaging you a while back. I'm like 1 week post op with Ramieri atm
his implate is a plate that is an implant right? how much extra did that cost?I did his implate which is custom. Just swollen af atm, but overall looks like he nailed it. Occlusion is as planned and chin looks like its in the correct position
Hey bro, insane ascension. Going in for trimax within the next 6 months. Out of curiosity what was the mm movements you had on your mandible, maxilla, and chin, and did they do any CCW?Had trimax with Ramieri at the beginning of 2024. Finally got decently lean.
Pre-surgery vs now:
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Gymcelled for 8 years natty (but I should’ve just used gear)
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I’m a non-NT manlet late 20s oldcel with Peter Pan syndrome, but now I slay uni girls every now and again, I get IOIs, validation and admiration. Things aren’t too bad. It’s probably not over for you.
How much for a consultation and how much was it overall?Just trimax and weight loss
And I think I might have slightly hypertrophied my masseters without trying from clenchmaxxing on stimulants
How much was it?I did his implate which is custom. Just swollen af atm, but overall looks like he nailed it. Occlusion is as planned and chin looks like its in the correct position
Thanks man, the movements are in one of my replies at the beginning of the threadHey bro, insane ascension. Going in for trimax within the next 6 months. Out of curiosity what was the mm movements you had on your mandible, maxilla, and chin, and did they do any CCW?
how did u afford dad money or u workedHad trimax with Ramieri at the beginning of 2024. Finally got decently lean.
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I’m a non-NT manlet late 20s oldcel with Peter Pan syndrome, but now I slay uni girls every now and again, I get IOIs, validation and admiration. Things aren’t too bad. It’s probably not over for you.
Can’t remember the consultation fee but I think it might have been about €150How much for a consultation and how much was it overall?
Worked, no family help at allhow did u afford dad money or u worked
where are u from? How much Did the surgeries Cost? How old were you in the first pic and and how old are you in the after pic? Where did you do your surgery?Worked, no family help at all
Apart from living rent free with parents, makes a big difference
From UK, spent €21k + a few hundred on meds and tests + accom/flights + £4.5k on orthowhere are u from? How much Did the surgeries Cost? How old were you in the first pic and and how old are you in the after pic? Where did you do your surgery?
That’s so reasonable mate. Could I privately pm you about this if that’s alrightCan’t remember the consultation fee but I think it might have been about €150
I wrote about the pricing in a reply at the beginning of the thread
Sure thingThat’s so reasonable mate. Could I privately pm you about this if that’s alright
What about somebody with LFS from downgrowth?dehiscence is a risk you'll have to accept if you want to ascend, and if you pick the right surgeon the risk will be relatively low
considering Ramieri has denied you, your case is nothing like OP. Trimax only ascended OP as hard as it did because he had SFS which has a high ceiling of improvement for both frontal and side profile. It will be entirely different for you, you likely have normal range facial growth, orthodontic surgery will not make nearly as much of an impact if at all.
ccw, vertically shortening genio. if you add ramus lengthening implants you overcame downward growthWhat about somebody with LFS from downgrowth?
Salludon for example had it:
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The only guy to have fixed Downgrowth
Was also the only one to have gone from MTN to Terrachad I'm surprised not a lot of people talk about how downgrown Salludon was. How did he fix this? @Dastan goes into something similar in this thread...looksmax.org
Mirin the results are insane how much did everything costHad trimax with Ramieri at the beginning of 2024. Finally got decently lean.
Pre-surgery vs now:
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Gymcelled for 8 years natty (but I should’ve just used gear)
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I’m a non-NT manlet late 20s oldcel with Peter Pan syndrome, but now I slay uni girls every now and again, I get IOIs, validation and admiration. Things aren’t too bad. It’s probably not over for you.
Mirin, were you approved for this or paid out of pocket? What surgeon?Had trimax with Ramieri at the beginning of 2024. Finally got decently lean.
Pre-surgery vs now:
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Gymcelled for 8 years natty (but I should’ve just used gear)
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I’m a non-NT manlet late 20s oldcel with Peter Pan syndrome, but now I slay uni girls every now and again, I get IOIs, validation and admiration. Things aren’t too bad. It’s probably not over for you.
That's my dream bro, I hate being average. Good for you. Have you considered clavicle and limb lengthening?Had trimax with Ramieri at the beginning of 2024. Finally got decently lean.
Pre-surgery vs now:
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Gymcelled for 8 years natty (but I should’ve just used gear)
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I’m a non-NT manlet late 20s oldcel with Peter Pan syndrome, but now I slay uni girls every now and again, I get IOIs, validation and admiration. Things aren’t too bad. It’s probably not over for you.

so proud buddy,Had trimax with Ramieri at the beginning of 2024. Finally got decently lean.
Pre-surgery vs now:
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Gymcelled for 8 years natty (but I should’ve just used gear)
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I’m a non-NT manlet late 20s oldcel with Peter Pan syndrome, but now I slay uni girls every now and again, I get IOIs, validation and admiration. Things aren’t too bad. It’s probably not over for you.
Surgery + ortho + tests and meds and shit came to around €25k totalMirin the results are insane how much did everything cost
Out of pocket, was Ramieri as I said.Mirin, were you approved for this or paid out of pocket? What surgeon?
Yes but I doubt I’ll ever do them due to the cost and time investment and everyone you know thinking you’re a freak.That's my dream bro, I hate being average. Good for you. Have you considered clavicle and limb lengthening?![]()
Wageslavinghow you got the money
How long did you stay in italy and how long was the recovery i need to know because im wageslaving to hardmax and id need to be preparedSurgery + ortho + tests and meds and shit came to around €25k total
I forgot about tests and scans when I was answering people earlier
But they are a very small part of the total cost
Surgery + ortho + tests and meds and shit came to around €25k total
I forgot about tests and scans when I was answering people earlier
But they are a very small part of the total cost
wtf only 20grand?Out of pocket, was Ramieri as I said.
Stayed 2 weeks in italy after surgery in case of infection.How long did you stay in italy and how long was the recovery i need to know because im wageslaving to hardmax and id need to be prepared
Yep, and the surgery would’ve been only €15k if I I didn’t have custom plates. Includes all hospital fees, etc, but not pre and post scans, or post-op meds. That should be less than €1k altogether though.wtf only 20grand?
Is ur surgeon based in the ukYep, and the surgery would’ve been only €15k if I I didn’t have custom plates. Includes all hospital fees, etc, but not pre and post scans, or post-op meds. That should be less than €1k altogether though.
No, in RomeIs ur surgeon based in the uk
I believe he had overbite malocclusion class 2 with recessed short lower third clearly visible on X Ray and profile photo. Just like me.how did you figure out your exact facial flaws and figure out the exact surgical procedures you needed? im stuck on that part
insane ascension btw, both physique and face, super inspirational
Which ortho did u use in uk?From UK, spent €21k + a few hundred on meds and tests + accom/flights + £4.5k on ortho
I think I was 24 in the before pics, 26 in the after
Had the surgery in Rome where Ramieri is based