TRT FOR LIFE QUESTION

[Aloof]

COULDN'T YOU PURPOSELY TAKE TEST FOR A YEAR THEN JUST HOP OFF AND GET A PRESCRIPTION SINCE YOUR TEST LEVELS WILL BE TANKED?

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[hezaymoglet]

COULDN'T YOU PURPOSELY TAKE TEST FOR A YEAR THEN JUST HOP OFF AND GET A PRESCRIPTION SINCE YOUR TEST LEVELS WILL BE TANKED?

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pretty sure the doctor would just put you on pct and not just continue the cycle

 

[Aloof]

pretty sure the doctor would just put you on pct and not just continue the cycle

After many months/years a PCT wont do anything

your balls are dead

 

[MakinItHappen]

COULDN'T YOU PURPOSELY TAKE TEST FOR A YEAR THEN JUST HOP OFF AND GET A PRESCRIPTION SINCE YOUR TEST LEVELS WILL BE TANKED?

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Jewish cheapskate rat

 

[Aloof]

Jewish cheapskate rat

im 17 and scared that ill lose my job on TRT and won't be able to afford it

 

[81xa]

yea this would work
they wouldnt give u pct since it would do fuck all

 

[Dizzle]

After many months/years a PCT wont do anything

your balls are dead

yea this would work
they wouldnt give u pct since it would do fuck all

please dont talk on a subject if you make braindead claims like this

 

[Aloof]

yea this would work
they wouldnt give u pct since it would do fuck all

I would only do this if i lost my job of course

wasting peoples tax dolars is dumb

 

[Aloof]

please dont talk on a subject if you make braindead claims like this

retard wtf is braindead about this?

 

[i_blamegamertag]

im 17 and scared that ill lose my job on TRT and won't be able to afford it

TRT doses are like 5 bucks a month dude fym

 

[Aloof]

TRT doses are like 5 bucks a month dude fym

Just a back up plan yk

 

[Dizzle]

retard wtf is braindead about this?

id advise you look into it yourself and read studies instead of parroting

 

[81xa]

dont talk on a subject if you make braindead claims like this

due to testicular atrophy the testes may be unable to respond to signals after years of dormancy
through HPG axis suppression the brain's signalling pathway may be too suppressed to restart fully

 

[Aloof]

id advise you look into it yourself and read studies instead of parroting

thats why I asked it here

also show me a study thats about getting a TRT prescription after being on test for years, it doesn't exsist because the question is just a theory

by your signature i can tell your retarded

 

[King.epstein]

COULDN'T YOU PURPOSELY TAKE TEST FOR A YEAR THEN JUST HOP OFF AND GET A PRESCRIPTION SINCE YOUR TEST LEVELS WILL BE TANKED?

FREE TRT FOR LIFE

I know someone who tried that,he got a prescription for hcg but still had to pay for it JFL

 

[iblameMogville]

due to testicular atrophy the testes may be unable to respond to signals after years of dormancy
through HPG axis suppression the brain's signalling pathway may be too suppressed to restart fully

does this go on for life tho or could a person recover from it

 

[Aloof]

I know someone who tried that,he got a prescription for hcg but still had to pay for it JFL

why HCG?

it the testicles are dead HCG wouldn't do much? maybe im wrong

 

[Aloof]

does this go on for life tho or could a person recover from it

after years on test and other steroids your balls whill never recover or will only make like 10% of the test you had before

 

[Dizzle]

also show me a study thats about getting a TRT prescription after being on test for years, it doesn't exsist because the question is just a theory

you completely missed the point
i want you to tell me what you believe post cycle therapy does

 

[81xa]

does this go on for life tho or could a person recover from it

it depends how long you were on TRT for
if we assume 1 year, it might be possible with rigorous PCT and doctor supervision
2 years is like the tipping point after that u probably wont recover, it's permanent

 

[Aloof]

you completely missed the point
i want you to tell me what you believe post cycle therapy does

after a couple of months PCT might do something but after years on test it will do shit

your test on PCT after years on test would be like a 12 year old boy

 

[Dizzle]

it depends how long you were on TRT for
if we assume 1 year, it might be possible with rigorous PCT and doctor supervision
2 years is like the tipping point after that u probably wont recover, it's permanent

after years on test and other steroids your balls whill never recover or will only make like 10% of the test you had before

and where did you source this information from?

 

[Dizzle]

after a couple of months PCT might do something but after years on test it will do shit

your test on PCT after years on test would be like a 12 year old boy

i love how you completely ignored my question

 

[81xa]

and where did you source this information from?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4988681/

Prolonged Hypogonadism in Males Following Withdrawal from Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids: an Underrecognized Problem - PMC

To assess the frequency and severity of hypogonadal symptoms in male long-term anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) misusers who have discontinued AAS use. Cross-sectional, naturalistic. Outpatient facility. Twenty-four male former long-term AAS users ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Physical, psychological and biochemical recovery from anabolic steroid-induced hypogonadism: a scoping review - PMC

Hypogonadism can result following anabolic steroid abuse. The duration and degree of recovery from anabolic steroid-induced hypogonadism (ASIH) is immensely variable, and there is a paucity of prospective controlled data characterising the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

PCT IS insufficient for men who have used testosterone for a long time, the medication only addresses the brain's signaling, not the physical condition of the testes. PCT drugs like Clomiphene or Tamoxifen work by stimulating the pituitary gland to release the hormones LH and FSH that tell the body to produce testosterone. This lack of activity often leads to a physical breakdown of the Leydig cells, which are the cells responsible for testosterone production. This process can include ATROPHY or the development of scar tissue within the organ.

 

[Dizzle]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4988681/

Prolonged Hypogonadism in Males Following Withdrawal from Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids: an Underrecognized Problem - PMC

To assess the frequency and severity of hypogonadal symptoms in male long-term anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) misusers who have discontinued AAS use. Cross-sectional, naturalistic. Outpatient facility. Twenty-four male former long-term AAS users ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Physical, psychological and biochemical recovery from anabolic steroid-induced hypogonadism: a scoping review - PMC

Hypogonadism can result following anabolic steroid abuse. The duration and degree of recovery from anabolic steroid-induced hypogonadism (ASIH) is immensely variable, and there is a paucity of prospective controlled data characterising the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

None of these studies back up your claims

it depends how long you were on TRT for
if we assume 1 year, it might be possible with rigorous PCT and doctor supervision
2 years is like the tipping point after that u probably wont recover, it's permanent

you simply pulled the 1 and 2 years timeline out of your ass and listed studies that dont even back up ur claims lmfao.
The 2023 review literally says that there is near complete recovery of testosterone over months and that testicular volume recovers over months to years. The Rasmussen study says 27% of former users had low T years later. so 73% didn't lol. And that study even says that only 3.3% were severely below norm.

PCT IS insufficient for men who have used testosterone for a long time, the medication only addresses the brain's signaling, not the physical condition of the testes. PCT drugs like Clomiphene or Tamoxifen work by stimulating the pituitary gland to release the hormones LH and FSH that tell the body to produce testosterone. This lack of activity often leads to a physical breakdown of the Leydig cells, which are the cells responsible for testosterone production. This process can include ATROPHY or the development of scar tissue within the organ.

it also funny how this doesnt matter at all if you use hcg while roiding.

 

[81xa]

None of these studies back up your claims

you simply pulled the 1 and 2 years timeline out of your ass and listed studies that dont even back up ur claims lmfao.
The 2023 review literally says that there is near complete recovery of testosterone over months and that testicular volume recovers over months to years. The Rasmussen study says 27% of former users had low T years later. so 73% didn't lol. And that study even says that only 3.3% were severely below norm.

it also funny how this doesnt matter at all if you use hcg while roiding.

while clinical studies show that the majority of men eventually return to a medical reference range this statistical recovery often masks a permanent loss in physiological capacity because a 27% failure rate is a significant risk and even those who scrape back into the normal range frequently show suppressed insl3 levels indicating that the leydig cells have been permanently downgraded despite a restart in signaling ultimately hitting the bottom of a lab range is not the same as restoring the functional health a man had before suppression meaning pct can successfully restart the system without ever truly returning it to its original performance

 

[Dizzle]

while clinical studies show that the majority of men eventually return to a medical reference range this statistical recovery often masks a permanent loss in physiological capacity because a 27% failure rate is a significant risk and even those who scrape back into the normal range frequently show suppressed insl3 levels indicating that the leydig cells have been permanently downgraded despite a restart in signaling ultimately hitting the bottom of a lab range is not the same as restoring the functional health a man had before suppression meaning pct can successfully restart the system without ever truly returning it to its original performance

Why are you moving the goalpost? insl3 is a diff topic and even if you wanna switch over to that why are you ignoring my hcg comment?

 

[sherry12]

COULDN'T YOU PURPOSELY TAKE TEST FOR A YEAR THEN JUST HOP OFF AND GET A PRESCRIPTION SINCE YOUR TEST LEVELS WILL BE TANKED?

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until u pay for the sript u also could take test for a month and achieve these results

 

[Finncelchud]

COULDN'T YOU PURPOSELY TAKE TEST FOR A YEAR THEN JUST HOP OFF AND GET A PRESCRIPTION SINCE YOUR TEST LEVELS WILL BE TANKED?

FREE TRT FOR LIFE

This is my plan btw

 

[YoungPhilosopher]

Why are you moving the goalpost? insl3 is a diff topic and even if you wanna switch over to that why are you ignoring my hcg comment?

Tbh dizzle is right ngl

I believe if u cruise on testosterone lets say at 200-250mg/weekly for a year or two u can still pct and be back to normal or almost’to normal,especially if ur using hcg during your cycle