Trump has destroyed a "3rd term"

[Deleted member 91663]

I can't imagine anyone enjoying the show more than Kim & Putin rn

The weird thing is that even if you agree with Trump's objectives, his means of achieving them have been absolutely risible.

 

[FiendFiend]

Not even what I said

I said he's not getting elected again, unless these tariffs end up working by the midterms

And his immediate action to retract them, makes it appear as though he is retarded

Jfl if you think trump cares about the US working class

"People wont work for pennies"

People didn't ask trump to put tariffs on everyone in the world

Its some crazy shit they told him to chill out on, it was trump, not "the people"

And EVERYONE IS LOSING MONEY ON ASSETS

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BILLIONAIRES?

the assets arent real assets like a fucking house. Oh no some retard fags who bought s&p500 lost money. Bro if the economy was good for the working class normies wouldnt have to be buying s&p500 and fucking stocks bro

The people voted for trump - he ran on putting on tarrifs - cry bruh

Most normies and working class actually dont own assets believe it or not. Sure maybe a normei in NYC or LA. but the average normie isnt in NYC or LA. If ur slightly well off yeah u lost out on some assets? am i meant to give a fuck? it was ur choice to play with stocks thinking they were meant to and should go up forever. All the stocks are inflated as fuck garbage

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

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the assets arent real assets like a fucking house. Oh no some retard fags who bought s&p500 lost money. Bro if the economy was good for the working class normies wouldnt have to be buying s&p500 and fucking stocks bro

The people voted for trump - he ran on putting on tarrifs - cry bruh

Most normies and working class actually dont own assets believe it or not. Sure maybe a normei in NYC or LA. but the average normie isnt in NYC or LA. If ur slightly well off yeah u lost out on some assets? am i meant to give a fuck? it was ur choice to play with stocks thinking they were meant to and should go up forever. All the stocks are inflated as fuck garbage

Are you actually trying to make the point that trumps tariffs aren't economically detrimental for everybody in America right now?

It doesn't matter if you have stocks.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

the assets arent real assets like a fucking house. Oh no some retard fags who bought s&p500 lost money. Bro if the economy was good for the working class normies wouldnt have to be buying s&p500 and fucking stocks bro

The people voted for trump - he ran on putting on tarrifs - cry bruh

Most normies and working class actually dont own assets believe it or not. Sure maybe a normei in NYC or LA. but the average normie isnt in NYC or LA. If ur slightly well off yeah u lost out on some assets? am i meant to give a fuck? it was ur choice to play with stocks thinking they were meant to and should go up forever. All the stocks are inflated as fuck garbage

What happens when billionaires bleed?

They bleed us, they get it back from raising prices on consumer goods

How can you possibly think he's just "hitting the billionaires" and "helping the people"

Ridiculous

Companies aren't going to bear the losses, they will make up for them. Of course

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Trump is literaly a strategic genius

You are too stupid to understand everything and why he did all of it

 

[FiendFiend]

It's not just billionaires man

Like ok fuck the rich exploiters and whatever

You know loads of retirees and teacher pensions are in the markets too? Regular paycheck to paycheck folk

Oh no the poor fucking boomers who own their homes and shit dumped a couple hundred thousand into s&p500 for their kids! Dude we need to make new money from actually fucking working jobs that pay good, not live off grandma because she owns the house and is the only one with assets and money, and keep passing down the house and wealth generation to generation.

If the boomers are losing their assets its a good sign bro the assets need to flow to the young brah.

 

[Brus Wane]

The weird thing is that even if you agree with Trump's objectives, his means of achieving them have been absolutely risible.

There wasn't anything broken honestly

Should have just wrapped up shit in Ukraine, negotiate something in the middle east, give china a call and try to squeeze something privately before doing something reckless

Biden was a shitty pres in everything (especially foreign policy) but at least he didn't tamper with the economy too much ... he just let things sort itself out and 8/10 times, that's the way to go

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

the assets arent real assets like a fucking house. Oh no some retard fags who bought s&p500 lost money. Bro if the economy was good for the working class normies wouldnt have to be buying s&p500 and fucking stocks bro

The people voted for trump - he ran on putting on tarrifs - cry bruh

Most normies and working class actually dont own assets believe it or not. Sure maybe a normei in NYC or LA. but the average normie isnt in NYC or LA. If ur slightly well off yeah u lost out on some assets? am i meant to give a fuck? it was ur choice to play with stocks thinking they were meant to and should go up forever. All the stocks are inflated as fuck garbage

You think his tariffs on the penguins in Antarctica will bleed the billionaires and embolden the people?

He's HELPING BILLIONARES BY GIVING THEM CALLS ON THE MARKET BEFORE HE CRASHES IT

ELON IS PUMPING AND DUMPING RIGHT NOW!

HE 100% MADE MONEY ON THESE TARIFFS, A SHIT TON.

 

[FiendFiend]

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Are you actually trying to make the point that trumps tariffs aren't economically detrimental for everybody in America right now?

It doesn't matter if you have stocks.

Short term it is bad yes. Long term creates more jobs in the US (more job competition too). If Trump keeps deporting and there are average working Americans and a whole lot of companies who are forced to make their shit in the US cuz of trump - then they will have to pay them more to insentivize them to actually stay and work these jobs.

Long term its good for working class Americans and Gen Z.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

There wasn't anything broken honestly

I think there's a point about bringing back American manufacturing jobs in areas of strategic importance like chip production, car manufacturing and others. The idea about bringing back low skilled jobs from Vietnam and others like Lutnik is saying is batshit though

Should have just wrapped up shit in Ukraine, negotiate something in the middle east, give china a call and try to squeeze something privately before doing something reckless

Agreed.

Biden was a shitty pres in everything (especially foreign policy) but at least he didn't tamper with the economy too much ... he just let things sort itself out and 8/10 times, that's the way to go

Biden was a nominal president. I assume the team behind him were in actuality handling the day to day governance and foreign policy.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Short term it is bad yes. Long term creates more jobs in the US (more job competition too). If Trump keeps deporting and there are average working Americans and a whole lot of companies who are forced to make their shit in the US cuz of trump - then they will have to pay them more to insentivize them to actually stay and work these jobs.

Long term its good for working class Americans and Gen Z.

This could be true,

But you agree, elon musk, rhe richest man in America, trumps partner

Most definitely made use of his prior knowledge of these tariffs

And he made plays. Big plays, huge risks

He shorted the market and probably made a BILL last week

You know that right?

He doesn't give A FUCK about the people

 

[FiendFiend]

What happens when billionaires bleed?

They bleed us, they get it back from raising prices on consumer goods

How can you possibly think he's just "hitting the billionaires" and "helping the people"

Ridiculous

Companies aren't going to bear the losses, they will make up for them. Of course

Oh fr? So why when billionaires "bled" in the 50s and were made to pay their share and do bussiness in the US, and do all this shit (far mroe drastic measures than trump) was quality of life for the average American the best?

Companies will have to pay fair wages nigga. If they are competing for a smaller pool of workers in the US, rather than a massive pool of workers in China they will have to pay them good. Good news for inkwells

 

[FiendFiend]

This could be true,

But you agree, elon musk, rhe richest man in America, trumps partner

Most definitely made use of his prior knowledge of these tariffs

And he made plays. Big plays, huge risks

He shorted the market and probably made a BILL last week

You know that right?

He doesn't give A FUCK about the people

Yes thats what disheartens me.

Nigga is still shorting markets and making some personal wealth for him and his buddies , but to even think about the move of entering a trade war with china and doing this whole tarrif thing shows he isnt controlled by billionaires.

Im defending tarrifs more than I am defending trump.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Oh fr? So why when billionaires "bled" in the 50s and were made to pay their share and do bussiness in the US, and do all this shit (far mroe drastic measures than trump) was quality of life for the average American the best?

Companies will have to pay fair wages nigga. If they are competing for a smaller pool of workers in the US, rather than a massive pool of workers in China they will have to pay them good. Good news for inkwells

You are aware he's done nothing besides make things easier for conglomerate business

He removed all the restrictions on elons company

secured additional millions of dollars in elons government contracts,

the business regulation Groups of the government, SEC, CFFPB, other organizations, is what's being cut
(Idk what these abbreviations are truthfully)
He's not raising wages. None of that has happened

dude. He's not a man of the people, he's a man of himself.

 

[Brus Wane]

I think there's a point about bringing back American manufacturing jobs in areas of strategic importance like chip production, car manufacturing and others. The idea about bringing back low skilled jobs from Vietnam and others like Lutnik is saying is batshit though

Agreed.

Biden was a nominal president. I assume the team behind him were in actuality handling the day to day governance and foreign policy.

The car thing is already there, isn't it? ... doesn't Tesla have factories in USA?

Same with chips.

Alot of maga people don't wanna hear this but the reason they don't have good jobs is ... skill issue

Truth hurts

Most manufacturing isn't coming back
It just isn't competitive

People should be focusing on getting a good job like tech or banking and outperforming the Europeans in that arena or something

That's my take anyways

Oh no the poor fucking boomers who own their homes and shit dumped a couple hundred thousand into s&p500 for their kids! Dude we need to make new money from actually fucking working jobs that pay good, not live off grandma because she owns the house and is the only one with assets and money, and keep passing down the house and wealth generation to generation.

If the boomers are losing their assets its a good sign bro the assets need to flow to the young brah.

OK what about the price hikes with all the tariffs then?

Stock Market is only one aspect.
If the only effect was a stock crash, maybe people can get behind this more whole heartedly

Trump was also voted in to "rid inflation on day one" and all that

Alot of neutral voters chose him because of bidenflation

He may have ran on tariffs but the way in which he went about it goes against one of his campaign promises : lower prices

 

[Deleted member 131140]

Trump is literaly a strategic genius

You are too stupid to understand everything and why he did all of it

God tier bait

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Im defending tarrifs more than I am dedefending trump

Fair enough

I did vote for Donald but nobody expected this shit

At rhe end of the day he is still a businessman, he's selfish arrogant, and inevitably, greedy

Even his diehards can't pretend that's not true as shit

So idk my dad says he just wants to be powerful and go out with a bang

Idk if he really has a grand plan

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

The car thing is already there, isn't it? ... doesn't Tesla have factories in USA?

Same with chips.

Alot of maga people don't wanna hear this but the reason they don't have good jobs is ... skill issue

Truth hurts

Most manufacturing isn't coming back
It just isn't competitive

People should be focusing on getting a good job like tech or banking and outperforming the Europeans in that arena or something

That's my take anyways



OK what about the price hikes with all the tariffs then?

Stock Market is only one aspect.
If the only effect was a stock crash, maybe people can get behind this more whole heartedly

Trump was also voted in to "rid inflation on day one" and all that

Alot of neutral voters chose him because of bidenflation

He may have ran on tariffs but the way in which he went about it goes against one of his campaign promises : lower prices

Also claimed he'd settle the war in Ukraine BEFORE HE EVEN SAT IN THE OVAL OFFICE

 

[FiendFiend]

Fair enough

I did vote for Donald but nobody expected this shit

At rhe end of the day he is still a businessman, he's selfish arrogant, and inevitably, greedy

Even his diehards can't pretend that's not true as shit

So idk my dad says he just wants to be powerful and go out with a bang

Idk if he really has a grand plan

i expected this cuz i knew what tarrifs mean nigga. lol I knew markets will crash. Thats why I support him nigga.

You need shit to get worse before it gets better.

 

[FiendFiend]

The car thing is already there, isn't it? ... doesn't Tesla have factories in USA?

Same with chips.

Alot of maga people don't wanna hear this but the reason they don't have good jobs is ... skill issue

Truth hurts

Most manufacturing isn't coming back
It just isn't competitive

People should be focusing on getting a good job like tech or banking and outperforming the Europeans in that arena or something

That's my take anyways



OK what about the price hikes with all the tariffs then?

Stock Market is only one aspect.
If the only effect was a stock crash, maybe people can get behind this more whole heartedly

Trump was also voted in to "rid inflation on day one" and all that

Alot of neutral voters chose him because of bidenflation

He may have ran on tariffs but the way in which he went about it goes against one of his campaign promises : lower prices

how could inflation exist if ur not printing copius amounts of money and have booming domestic production with a bunch of jobs. How can you expect people to spend money if u have a subscription economy where the average worker is not recieving fair pay

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

i expected this cuz i knew what tarrifs mean nigga. lol I knew markets will crash. Thats why I support him nigga.

You need shit to get worse before it gets better.

I am being reactive asf ngl

I must concede if this will or won't be beneficial in the long term is something you're clearly more knowledgeable about

But this nigga is a fucking jew,

Kissed the wall

The tariffs

(Actually I looked it up he did tariff Isreal ,I swore he didn't at first)

 

[Brus Wane]

I am being reactive asf ngl

I must concede if this will or won't be beneficial in the long term is something you're clearly more knowledgeable about

But this nigga is a fucking jew,

Kissed the wall

The tariffs

(Actually I looked it up he did tariff Isreal ,I swore he didn't at first)

He's gonna let them off lightly

Bibi was first at the white house innit?

how could inflation exist if ur not printing copius amounts of money and have booming domestic production with a bunch of jobs. How can you expect people to spend money if u have a subscription economy where the average worker is not recieving fair pay

Inflation exists because of the Ukraine war and supply chain disruption

Higher demand for shit with less supply

The good jobs in the USA all lie in high-end manufacturing, sales, tech bro shit, banking, entertainment and other services

Idk how you guys wanna try to bring manufacturing jobs back en masse

Yall should be letting shitholes do it and ensure you keep the best jobs for yourselves

Yall the richest place on earth with only 330 million people, wealthmogging and
If there are broke people or struggling young people, yall don't have a "lack of manufacturing" problem, yall either have a wealth distribution problem or a skill issue problem .... it's definitely one of these 2

If they brought home the jobs from asia tomorrow, you think you will get a fair wage? As long as some scumbag ceo is in charge, he'll shaft you in the most ruthless way he legally and practically can

You won't begin Negotiating your pay by saying you want $35 bucks per hour, he'll start by telling you "hey man we got some guy in Cambodia to do this at $10 per day, I think we can do a bit better for you man"

If you don't wanna do it? They'll just get some immigrant or robot to help out

News flash, vivek and musk want more indians in the via H1B
And Trump actually is on camera agreeing to that idea

Think about it

Not everything is that simple

Tariffs didn't work in 1930 (and even worsened the already awful depession), why should they work now?