Ukranian LTN escapes from war to Japan, gets worshipped by japanese for handsome looks

>measuring gonion angle with a 4/5ths face picture


atp im just gonna ignore everyone whose join date passes 2022
What a revelation, it's not a perfect 90 degree side profile, it's actually 70-80 degrees. You've given 0 evidence that he's downgrown other than "trust me bro". Just low IQ monkey rambles whilst you cope with JBW. Don't know what I expect from a bottom of the barrel ethnic.

Anyone with a functioning frontal lobe can look at his face in motion and easily tell he is not downgrown. The fact that anyone has to explain this to a 2021cel is embarrassing.

Here's a more 90 degree angle, although he's tilting your head down you can clearly see his gonial angle could even be slightly lower than 120 degrees:

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Even his jaw frontal angle is literally around 90 degrees jfl.

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What the fuck are you talking about bro. His orbitals are fine / average. And he doesnt look bulged (bug eyed)

As we said before his main issues come from the one thing you pointed out. And what I pointed out. Downgrown jaw / poor soft features, overall maxillory recession cuasing his 3/4ths, side profile, to ask for more projection. You listed more below average features than average ones. How would this NOT make him ltn?
You do realize what the upper maxilla holds right, the infraorbital region? JFL. His orbitals are not even that bad, but they're not perfect. He literally has UEE, missing supraorbital mass, but I guess his orbitals are fine lol

He has good harmony, good eye spacing, decent jaw, tall chin, good hairline with good youth and health indicators. Overall good side profile with no malocclusion or any massive harmony problems. Nothing warrants anything below average you fucking coping ethnic
 
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"not visibly downgrown" an overly projected chin + high ramus is the quinessential downgrown jaw. fucking retard
If his chin was overly projected that would indicate more forward growth if anything.

I think you're mixing an overly tall chin with projection or something, because an overly tall chin would indicate downgrowth.

Take the Charlie Kirk killer for example.

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His chin to philtrum is something comical like 1:5 or something, solely because of how downgrown his jaw is.

That's not the case with this guy.
 
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What a revelation, it's not a perfect 90 degree side profile, it's actually 70-80 degrees. You've given 0 evidence that he's downgrown other than "trust me bro". Just low IQ monkey rambles whilst you cope with JBW. Don't know what I expect from a bottom of the barrel ethnic.

Anyone with a functioning frontal lobe can look at his face in motion and easily tell he is not downgrown. The fact that anyone has to explain this to a 2021cel is embarrassing.

Here's a more 90 degree angle, although he's tilting your head down you can clearly see his gonial angle could even be slightly lower than 120 degrees:

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Even his jaw frontal angle is literally around 90 degrees jfl.

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Okay let me explain this to you in RETARD. So you can actually understand what "down growth" means. No. I never said down grown means high ramus on its own. And if your brain halves were properly connected you would've read that I mentioned MAXILLORY RECESSION, along with a high gonial angle.

This used to be the textbook example of someone who is a little bit "down grown" Notice how his general features all seem to create a declining pattern that starts its highest point from the septum, and declining at the edge of his chin. with a high ramus and gonial angle.

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If someone has a projected maxilla he most likely isn't downward grown. (Good example of downward grown is orb, 115< gonial angle and maxilla isnt very projected)
But if they have a 115< gonial angle with good maxillary projection they aren't down grown it's just a feminizing feature

Very obvious for a subhuman like yourself who doesn't like the fact that even a below average slavic man can fuck your women, chink. That you used one of the only camera shots of him looking down. Instead of the MANY, and MOST shots of him looking straight in better lighting

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You can clearly see, that his chin, protrudes and goes beyond his lips, yet his philtrim is DOWN TURNED (flat maxilla), with a relativley high ramus. Classic Down growth.
 
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You do realize what the upper maxilla holds right, the infraorbital region? JFL. His orbitals are not even that bad, but they're not perfect. He literally has UEE, missing supraorbital mass, but I guess his orbitals are fine lol

He has good harmony, good eye spacing, decent jaw, tall chin, good hairline with good youth and health indicators. Overall good side profile with no malocclusion or any massive harmony problems. Nothing warrants anything below average you fucking coping ethnic
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I'd argue he has a fine aegyo sal with little to no darkening.

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Although I do now see that he does have UEE, but i wouldnt say it takes much away from him because it doesnt darken his eyelid
 
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If his chin was overly projected that would indicate more forward growth if anything.

I think you're mixing an overly tall chin with projection or something, because an overly tall chin would indicate downgrowth.

Take the Charlie Kirk killer for example.

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His chin to philtrum is something comical like 1:5 or something, solely because of how downgrown his jaw is.

That's not the case with this guy.
You're fucking retarded. his chin DOES NOT HAVE GOOD PROJECTION its well behind his upper philtrim and nose. its his flat maxilla that gives it this illusion since its alligned with his lower lip, which is also behind his upper lift. which again Is a good example of down growth
 
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Okay let me explain this to you in RETARD. So you can actually understand what "down growth" means. No. I never said down grown means high ramus on its own. And if your brain halves were properly connected you would've read that I mentioned MAXILLORY RECESSION, along with a high gonial angle.

This used to be the textbook example of someone who is a little bit "down grown" Notice how his general features all seem to create a declining pattern that starts its highest point from the septum, and declining at the edge of his chin. with a high ramus and gonial angle.

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If someone has a projected maxilla he most likely isn't downward grown. (Good example of downward grown is orb, 115< gonial angle and maxilla isnt very projected)
But if they have a 115< gonial angle with good maxillary projection they aren't down grown it's just a feminizing feature

Very obvious for a subhuman like yourself who doesn't like the fact that even a below average slavic man can fuck your women, chink. That you used one of the only camera shots of him looking down. Instead of the MANY, and MOST shots of him looking straight in better lighting

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You can clearly see, that his chin, protrudes and goes beyond his lips, yet his philtrim is DOWN TURNED (flat maxilla), with a relativley high ramus. Classic Down growth.
So you've brought up me using a 3/4 profile picture and you've just provided a 3/4 profile where both his eyebrows are clearly visible.

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Even then, his gonial angle is still 120 degrees. :lul:

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It just seems you've created your own meaning for downward growth and dubbed it "down growth".

In the normal world, he has all the trademarks for normal forward growth. Decent gonial angle, passes all the lip assessments that I've tried, ideal nasolabial angle, ideal facial convexity. But according to the pajeet Sick on Looksmax.org, he's downwardly grown, due to him wanting to fill his JBW cuck fantasy.
 
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You're fucking retarded. his chin DOES NOT HAVE GOOD PROJECTION its well behind his upper philtrim and nose. its his flat maxilla that gives it this illusion since its alligned with his lower lip, which is also behind his upper lift. which again Is a good example of down growth
Right, so behind his nose and upper philtrum he passes the Ricketts E line. Makes sense pajeet.

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Not that I expect anything from an ethnic that can't even type proper English clearly
 
So you've brought up me using a 3/4 profile picture and you've just provided a 3/4 profile where both his eyebrows are clearly visible.

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Even then, his gonial angle is still 120 degrees. :lul:

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It just seems you've created your own meaning for downward growth and dubbed it "down growth".

In the normal world, he has all the trademarks for a normal face. Decent gonial angle, passes all the lip assessments that I've tried, ideal nasofrontal angle, ideal facial convexity. But according to the pajeet Sick on Looksmax.org, he's downwardly grown, due to him wanting to fill his JBW cuck fantasy.
Anything above 115, with a recessed maxilla = down grown. Look at any old threads or even .net archives, People just like to say what they see and call it a day. Thats why no one even understands what it truly meant

>muh lines
>passes all the lip assessments that I've tried
So a lower lip being behind the upper is not an indication of recession? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

>ideal facial convexity
So this is 141 :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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he is ideal in the confines of your own chink, small dicked yellow piss skinned brain. Retard
 
Right, so behind his nose and upper philtrum he passes the Ricketts E line. Makes sense pajeet.

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Not that I expect anything from an ethnic that can't even type proper English clearly
The E-plane doesn't consider people with prognatism, underbites, overbites, or protruded chins. It's not the best example to use when we're arguing about down growth, recessed maxillas or lower lips. You just moved subjects. Also consider using this picture since its less blurry / shit quality pls

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Anything above 115, with a recessed maxilla = down grown. Look at any old threads or even .net archives, People just like to say what they see and call it a day. Thats why no one even understands what it truly meant
The ideal range for a gonial angle is 115-123. Don't know where you got this idea that <115 is ideal but that is extreme short box faced cope lol. Almost all models fall within this range

>muh lines
>passes all the lip assessments that I've tried
So a lower lip being behind the upper is not an indication of recession? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
What the fuck are you saying?

If he failed any of the lip assessments, that would indicate his lower lip is actually behind the upper. It clearly is not.

I'm aware pajeets like you have quite low intelligence, but at least do some research on these measurements instead of making poor attempts at mocking it lol.

>ideal facial convexity
So this is 141 :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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he is ideal in the confines of your own chink, small dicked yellow piss skinned brain. Retard
I don't even understand what you're trying to say here, probably something to do with your ethnic broken english spiraling into nonsense.
 
Wasn't there a story about how some white guy with blonde hair moved to like china or something and they thought his hair was made of gold
 
The E-plane doesn't consider people with prognatism, underbites, overbites, or protruded chins. It's not the best example to use when we're arguing about down growth, recessed maxillas or lower lips. You just moved subjects. Also consider using this picture since its less blurry / shit quality pls

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He passes all the lip assessments I've tried lol. Here's the burstone line.

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If he truly had some sort of malocclusion, or overly projected chin, it would show up here.

Also no I'm not using your picture because it's a 3/4 profile, which you've made the right complaint about. This picture is good enough quality if not the same.
 
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and blacks
They do but it's rare to find one
On the internet I've never seen an Asian say her type is blacks
They say that they would not date blacks too
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I don't even understand what you're trying to say here, probably something to do with your ethnic broken english spiraling into nonsense.
141 Degrees is the ideal facial convexity. I don't understand how me mentioning it leads one to believe I have "broken english" :feelsuhh:

He passes all the lip assessments I've tried lol. Here's the burstone line.

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If he truly had some sort of malocclusion, or overly projected chin, it would show up here.
I think you're not understanding what im saying, or you just proved yourself wrong. You showed A burstone line assesment in which his upper lip is infront (ends at the left lateral side of the line). While the lower lip is just touching the right lateral side of your line. I think the ideal distance is UL ≈ –3 mm, LL ≈ –2 mm
And id say based on the former, he's more than 1mm apart. Therefore his is not "perfect".

"The ideal range for a gonial angle is 115-123. Don't know where you got this idea that <115 is ideal but that is extreme short box faced cope lol. Almost all models fall within this range"

I never said it wasn't. Im simply telling you what the main hints of someone being "down grown" usually are. Which includes the upper portion of the ideal angle, for some it doesn't even take away from your looks at all for that reason alone. someone with a higher gonial angle (shorter ramus) =/= down grown either, btw.


"I'm aware pajeets like you have quite low intelligence, but at least do some research on these measurements instead of making poor attempts at mocking it lol."

Any racial disagreements on this site = Indian LTN

Why would an ethnic, argue in favor of an uglier white man that is able to easily fuck cute asian chicks without trying too hard? And you said INDIAN no less, wouldn't it make sense for me to be a chink?

The thesis of your argument makes no sense. If anything YOU seem ethnic for wanting him to be more reasonably attractive, making white smv seem lower.
 
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141 Degrees is the ideal facial convexity. I don't understand how me mentioning it leads one to believe I have "broken english" :feelsuhh:
What? His total facial convexity is 173 degrees, which is within ideal. And his facial convexity at the nasion is ideal as well.

I think you're not understanding what im saying, or you just proved yourself wrong. You showed A burstone line assesment in which his upper lip is infront (ends at the left lateral side of the line). While the lower lip is just touching the right lateral side of your line. I think the ideal distance is UL ≈ –3 mm, LL ≈ –2 mm
And id say based on the former, he's more than 1mm apart. Therefore his is not "perfect".
This is a side profile picture taken from a video, you can't really gauge the mm measurements to such an accurate degree.

In an ideal profile, the upper lip is supposed to be noticeably slightly in front of the line, which it is. The lower lip is supposed to at least intersect with the line, which is the lower range of ideal but even then you're nitpicking 0-2mm here - this error could just be photo angle or something else.

I never said it wasn't. Im simply telling you what the main hints of someone being "down grown" usually are. Which includes the upper portion of the ideal angle, for some it doesn't even take away from your looks at all for that reason alone. someone with a higher gonial angle (shorter ramus) =/= down grown either, btw.
Yes but he doesn't have some sort of crazy long ramus where it would hide his downward growth by making his gonial angle look lower, let's be real here.

He just falls within the normal range of maxilla downward growth.

Any racial disagreements on this site = Indian LTN

Why would an ethnic, argue in favor of an uglier white man that is able to easily fuck cute asian chicks without trying too hard? And you said INDIAN no less, wouldn't it make sense for me to be a chink?

The thesis of your argument makes no sense. If anything YOU seem ethnic for wanting him to be more reasonably attractive, making white smv seem lower.
No I'm literally a white blue eyed incel, I just find it funny how much ethnics cope with JBW.
 
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What? His total facial convexity is 173 degrees, which is within ideal. And his facial convexity at the nasion is ideal as well.
I think you mistook Facial convexity with total facial convexity (ngl it confused me too when I googled it, one seems to include the tip of the nose which is why its smaller aka more convex)

Facial Convexity (Angle G–Sn–Pog′)
This angle does not include the nose itself it’s basically the curvature from the forehead to the lips/chin.
  • Typical range: ~160°–175°
Total Convexity (Angle G–Prn–Pog′)
larger, more encompassing angle — the “nose” adds more convexity, which makes the numerical angle smaller.
  • Typical Range ≈ 139°–143°
    (Most literature lists the ideal average around 141°)

    So if you got 173, without the nose tip he'd be overall too concave
Yes but he doesn't have some sort of crazy long ramus where it would hide his downward growth by making his gonial angle look lower, let's be real here.

He just falls within the normal range of maxilla downward growth.
Well isn't that what an LTN is? someone who is still average but on the lower end / bordering MTN of the spectrum? I dont know what all this new shit "L LTN, H LTN" is. LTN = upto 4.9 / 10 It doesnt failo him that much just enough for me to say its a little under average
This is a side profile picture taken from a video, you can't really gauge the mm measurements to such an accurate degree.

In an ideal profile, the upper lip is supposed to be noticeably slightly in front of the line, which it is. The lower lip is supposed to at least intersect with the line, which is the lower range of ideal but even then you're nitpicking 0-2mm here - this error could just be photo angle or something else.
Same concept applies here then that hes below average
 
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No I'm literally a white blue eyed incel, I just find it funny how much ethnics cope with JBW.
I didnt buy into this shit until I saw this video + others of average fuckers getting so much attention. ngl
 
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I think you mistook Facial convexity with total facial convexity (ngl it confused me too when I googled it, one seems to include the tip of the nose which is why its smaller aka more convex)

Facial Convexity (Angle G–Sn–Pog′)
This angle does not include the nose itself it’s basically the curvature from the forehead to the lips/chin.
  • Typical range: ~160°–175°
Total Convexity (Angle G–Prn–Pog′)
larger, more encompassing angle — the “nose” adds more convexity, which makes the numerical angle smaller.
  • Typical Range ≈ 139°–143°
    (Most literature lists the ideal average around 141°)
Ah yeah you're right, that's my bad.

I just measured his total convexity and it's around 142 which is still within the ideal though, but you're right with the ideal range there - that's about what I remember.

Well isn't that what an LTN is? someone who is still average but on the lower end / bordering MTN of the spectrum? I dont know what all this new shit "L LTN, H LTN" is. LTN = upto 4.9 / 10 It doesnt failo him that much just enough for me to say its a little under average

Same concept applies here then that hes below average
Nah not necessarily, anything within the "ideal range" you don't knock any points off, it practically doesn't become a falio at all.

Because you can argue the error of the photo, and the fact there's multiple male models with the same measurements, etc.

If his burstone line was something like 3mm in front of his lower lip, where it doesn't intersect at all and is outside of the ideal range, you would start knocking off points for it though.

I didnt buy into this shit until I saw this video + others of average fuckers getting so much attention. ngl
I do think JBW is real, but not to an extreme extent. Obviously if you're ethnic that's not good for the dating market, and Asia you will get an advantage just due to the white halo that provably exists over there. But I don't think a true white LTN would receive this attention even in Asia, he looks like a normal white dude I would have seen in my high school. Decent harmony, health and youth indicators, nothing that really sticks out. Not above average by any means, but he won't get bullied in an American high school for being ugly like a normal LTN.

I will just agree to disagree at this point, considering we're both .org autists arguing over nothing for hours now lol. You have the right to your own opinion I just wanted to put my own opinion across based off my own experience / aesthetic knowledge
 
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Ah yeah you're right, that's my bad.

I just measured his total convexity and it's around 142 which is still within the ideal though, but you're right with the ideal range there - that's about what I remember.


Nah not necessarily, anything within the "ideal range" you don't knock any points off, it practically doesn't become a falio at all.

Because you can argue the error of the photo, and the fact there's multiple models with the same measurements, etc.

If his burstone line was something like 3mm in front of his lower lip, where it doesn't intersect at all and is outside of the ideal range, you would start knocking off points for it though.


I do think JBW is real, but not to an extreme extent. Obviously if you're ethnic that's not good for the dating market, and Asia you will get an advantage just due to the white halo that provably exists over there. But I don't think a true white LTN would receive this attention even in Asia, he looks like a normal white dude I would have seen in my high school. Decent harmony, health and youth indicators, nothing that really sticks out. Not above average by any means, but he won't get bullied in an American high school.

I will just agree to disagree at this point, considering we're both .org autists arguing over nothing for hours now lol. You have the right to your own opinion I just wanted to put my own opinion across based off my own experience / aesthetic knowledge.
Nah its alright bro, im just an oldfag with his foot in his ass. You taught me some shit i didn't know about ngl. So i appreciate it. Apologies.
 
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They do but it's rare to find one
On the internet I've never seen an Asian say her type is blacks
They say that they would not date blacks too
@Node
i saw some japaense say they like whites and blacks
 
Ah yeah you're right, that's my bad.

I just measured his total convexity and it's around 142 which is still within the ideal though, but you're right with the ideal range there - that's about what I remember.


Nah not necessarily, anything within the "ideal range" you don't knock any points off, it practically doesn't become a falio at all.

Because you can argue the error of the photo, and the fact there's multiple male models with the same measurements, etc.

If his burstone line was something like 3mm in front of his lower lip, where it doesn't intersect at all and is outside of the ideal range, you would start knocking off points for it though.


I do think JBW is real, but not to an extreme extent. Obviously if you're ethnic that's not good for the dating market, and Asia you will get an advantage just due to the white halo that provably exists over there. But I don't think a true white LTN would receive this attention even in Asia, he looks like a normal white dude I would have seen in my high school. Decent harmony, health and youth indicators, nothing that really sticks out. Not above average by any means, but he won't get bullied in an American high school for being ugly like a normal LTN.

I will just agree to disagree at this point, considering we're both .org autists arguing over nothing for hours now lol. You have the right to your own opinion I just wanted to put my own opinion across based off my own experience / aesthetic knowledge
Nah fuck that. I humble to no one.

First off, the thesis of your first picture is unreliable since the side profile picture has him looking down / tilting his entire front / side profile, making the center of reference (the orientation of the skull relative to the viewer or camera) moved downwards by more than 20 degrees. In this edited example. where we make his face rest neutrally. You can CLEARLY. See the "(down growth)" that im speaking about

By merely rotating your flawed picture 15 degrees. balancing his face from his tilted point. you can CLEARLY. see he fails your tests. (and it brings out the chin, maxillory, ramus issues i've mentioned prior) using your own cope lines we can see here that he fails nearly all of them.


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Even if we were to consider the general range of normalcy of 2.6 - 3.4 he is still right on / beyond his lips. Which is is beyond what the numbers say is "mean". Does this mean he is horribly disfigured? of course not.


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Recessed or underdeveloped midface/maxilla:
The area under the nose and upper lip is slightly flat relative to the nasal bridge. That’s typical of a maxilla that’s grown a bit downward or hasn’t projected forward enough.


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  • Describes how a downward or posteriorly positioned maxilla leads to a “flattened” midface and reduced upper lip support.
  • Notes that the “area beneath the nose and upper lip appears retruded” in vertical growers or maxillary hypoplasia cases.

The jawline rises sharply toward the ear rather than extending horizontally, suggesting a somewhat high-angle or verticalgrowth pattern.


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Which again is present in almost every side shot of him
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A steep line (even if its within the ideal range, which the scientist talk about being something COMPENSATIONARY) to down growth. towards the ramus.

Arnett, G. W., & Gunson, M. J. (2004). “Facial planning for orthodontists and oral surgeons.” American Journal of Orthodontics and Dentofacial Orthopedics, 126(3), Pages, 290–295.

Arnett and Gunson outline how insufficient anterior maxillary projection causes midfacial flatness and makes the lower face (chin, mandible) appear more dominant.

Which again, is present here since his chin appears to go BEYOND his lips entirley in some shots above.


TLDR, Chin appears to go beyond lips / at lip projection while looking to the side + Flat maxilla (upper lips relative towards the nose) + high abrupt, steep incline towards his lower ear. All indicate down growth.
 

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Nah fuck that. I humble to no one.

First off, the thesis of your first picture is unreliable since the side profile picture has him looking down / tilting his entire front / side profile, making the center of reference (the orientation of the skull relative to the viewer or camera) moved downwards by more than 20 degrees. In this edited example. where we make his face rest neutrally. You can CLEARLY. See the "(down growth)" that im speaking about

By merely rotating your flawed picture 15 degrees. balancing his face from his tilted point. you can CLEARLY. see he fails your tests. (and it brings out the chin, maxillory, ramus issues i've mentioned prior) using your own cope lines we can see here that he fails nearly all of them.


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Even if we were to consider the general range of normalcy of 2.6 - 3.4 he is still right on / beyond his lips. Which is is beyond what the numbers say is "mean". Does this mean he is horribly disfigured? of course not.


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Recessed or underdeveloped midface/maxilla:
The area under the nose and upper lip is slightly flat relative to the nasal bridge. That’s typical of a maxilla that’s grown a bit downward or hasn’t projected forward enough.


Source:


  • Describes how a downward or posteriorly positioned maxilla leads to a “flattened” midface and reduced upper lip support.
  • Notes that the “area beneath the nose and upper lip appears retruded” in vertical growers or maxillary hypoplasia cases.

The jawline rises sharply toward the ear rather than extending horizontally, suggesting a somewhat high-angle or verticalgrowth pattern.


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Which again is present in almost every side shot of him
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A steep line (even if its within the ideal range, which the scientist talk about being something COMPENSATIONARY) to down growth. towards the ramus.

Arnett, G. W., & Gunson, M. J. (2004). “Facial planning for orthodontists and oral surgeons.” American Journal of Orthodontics and Dentofacial Orthopedics, 126(3), Pages, 290–295.

Arnett and Gunson outline how insufficient anterior maxillary projection causes midfacial flatness and makes the lower face (chin, mandible) appear more dominant.

Which again, is present here since his chin appears to go BEYOND his lips entirley in some shots above.


TLDR, Chin appears to go beyond lips / at lip projection while looking to the side + Flat maxilla (upper lips relative towards the nose) + high abrupt, steep incline towards his lower ear. All indicate down growth.
I think lmtn is fine, either way he is below average to average white guy who's getting glazed, jbw real thread proven
 
I think lmtn is fine, either way he is below average to average white guy who's getting glazed, jbw real thread proven
Nah fuck this chink im arguing with. my massive BWC will fuck his women. :blackpill::blackpill::blackpill::blackpill:
 
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he moves to Japan to dodge conscription, instantly gets WORSHIPPED. Look at all the comments...

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彼は私が今まで見た中で最も美しく、優しい顔の持ち主です

He has one of the most beautiful, softest faces i've ever seen

僕なら自分で彼をそこから連れ出せただろう、彼は素晴らしい!

i would've gotten him out of there myself, he's stunning!

彼をもっと私の家に送ってください!

Please send more of him and at my house please!





whoever denies the differences among races smv wise is delusional

1000005861
 
Over for SAC cels :feelshehe:
he can only win arguments while im underslept at 6 am. lets see him try and compare his rice fed, dicklet. subhuman test tube brain from the labs of osaka, to the white mind.
 
he can only win arguments while im underslept at 6 am. lets see him try and compare his rice fed, dicklet. subhuman test tube brain from the labs of osaka, to the white mind.
He'll probably talk about how hes in the top 10 percentile of white men just becuase he goes outside, and btw this is a legit argument someone made on my thread to say that whites are ltns jfl :lul:
 
lmao, what a dumb thread... but you newfags are so clueless about this stuff it's actually sad
 

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