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NATURAL METHODS (softmax – no medical gear, just grind)
BE CAREFUL WITH BELT PULLING!!
HARDMAXX METHODS
BE CAREFUL WITH BELT PULLING!!
- Belt Pulling Strongest natural technique for CCW. Belt high on the back of your head, bite down hard on it (mouthpiece optional), pull up and slightly forward with chin tuck. 20-40 mins daily. Maxilla gets squeezed upward, mandible comes forward. Forum consensus: fastest visible changes if consistent. Some oldcels report solid midface fill and chin projection. Warning: risky if done wrong - can fuck teeth or jaw, so start light.
- Thumb Pulling Thumbs behind upper teeth, pull maxilla upward + forward. 10-15 mins, 2-3x a day. Mainly widens palate but some report minor CCW support when combined with other pulling.
- Towel Pulling Same idea as belt – towel instead of belt, pull from behind head. Used as cheaper/free alternative. Oldcels say it works similar to belt for upward force.
- Chewing with Front Teeth / Premolars (not molars) Chew mainly on front teeth or premolars (mastic gum or falim). Upward force on the front of maxilla = CCW rotation + better under-eye support. Molars = CW (makes face longer). Multiple threads with side profile changes from this alone.
- Light Temporalis Clenching (short pulses)Clench with temporalis (not masseters). Put thumbs on masseters, index fingers on temples – feel the right muscle fire. Short pulses only, no grinding. Helps internal rotation and upward pull on cranial base.
- Mouthguard for CCW Custom or basic mouthguard worn to guide bite and create upward force on anterior maxilla. Old theory from 2022 threads - some say it helps rotation when combined with chewing.
HARDMAXX METHODS
- Posterior Intrusion via TADS (Temporary Anchorage Devices)The single most powerful non-surgical CCW method after puberty according to detailed oldcel reports. Miniscrews placed near molars + intrusive elastics/coil springs pull back teeth upward into bone. Posterior height drops → mandible rotates up and forward. 2-4 mm intrusion = 3-6° mandibular plane change + 3-8 mm chin projection WITHOUT surgery. Done by ortho, not DIY.
- MSE + Facemask (or reverse pull headgear)Palate expansion with MSE + forward/upward pull from facemask. Some threads say it can induce CCW when timed right during late growth. Not pure rotation but helps overall forward + upward movement.
- Surgical CCW Rotation (Bimax)LeFort I + BSSO with CCW. Surgeon does posterior impaction (remove bone from back of maxilla) or anterior downgraft so whole complex rotates CCW. Mandible advances more and up. Massive chin projection (+8-15 mm effective), shorter midface, fixed airway. Go to a surgeon who actually knows aesthetics and CCW (not just bite fix). Get ceph + 3D CT first. Expensive, 3-4 months recovery, but delivers what natural can’t
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