Unpopular opinion: Modern western women are the best

[AlexAP]

- The best-looking women. With makeup, fashion and good hairstyle almost every women in the West can look good. They definitely look better than in the past. It is also true that non-white women who live in the West look better than the non-white women who live in their home countries.

- Financially independent. Most traditional women want betabuxxers, that means the man has to work hard to have access to her pussy. Modern western women can take care of themselves and will bring an extra-income to the table. Of course you should have a job too, but they don't see you as an ATM like Third-world women.

- Intelligent. "Muh all women only make gender studies degree at college", what a cope. Way less than 1% of all degrees in U.S. colleges are women's studies. Most women are as intelligent as men, there are a lot of smart women that you can have enlightening conversations with. Of course this is better than having a dumb women that only married you for money.

- Good personality. Women from non-western countries are very traditional. They want the man to earn all the money, be the leader, be stoic, never show emotions. Most western women let their men in relationships show vulnerability, that leads to a much closer connection between them.

- Sexually liberated. "Muh they're all whores", no, they just actually like sex instead of using it as bargain against their betabuxx husband. Sexual compatibility is important in a relationship, therefore waiting until marriage is stupid. It is much better when both like it than if the woman just lays there waiting for their betabuxx husband to finish.

JFL at users here glorifying betabuxx marriages in the Third world or the "good old times" in the West. Modern western women are the best by far. I can see how men with low SMV are frustrated, but don't cope with saying that western women are low-quality, that's just not true.

 

[TsarTsar444]

 

[AlexAP]

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[Deleted member 18840]

Op kys.
Ure as liberal retard subhuman IQ coping degen mutt than is the finnish mongolian rat i forgot the name.

What is this name @StrangerDanger ? He has gigachad meme avi now and he coped with ugly gooks

 

[Deleted member 16530]

Good personality

Sexually liberated

I can make jokes for rep but I don’t even see the point

Genuinely unbearable women

 

[Deleted member 4430]

JFL at users here glorifying betabuxx marriages in the Third world

you know this is practically impossible if you dont have the finances or you dont want SEA flat faced whore.

 

[ClickClackPattyWhac]

Some good points raised tbh

 

[AlexAP]

I can make a lot of jokes for reps but I don’t even see the point

Genuinely unbearable women

Aren't you Turkish? Are the women there more western or more traditional?

 

[alriodai]

- The best-looking women. With makeup, fashion and good hairstyle almost every women in the West can look good. They definitely look better than in the past. It is also true that non-white women who live in the West look better than the non-white women who live in their home countries.

- Financially independent. Most traditional women want betabuxxers, that means the man has to work hard to have access to her pussy. Modern western women can take care of themselves and will bring an extra-income to the table. Of course you should have a job too, but they don't see you as an ATM like Third-world women.

- Intelligent. "Muh all women only make gender studies degree at college", what a cope. Way less than 1% of all degrees in U.S. colleges are women's studies. Most women are as intelligent as men, there are a lot of smart women that you can have enlightening conversations with. Of course this is better than having a dumb women that only married you for money.

- Good personality. Women from non-western countries are very traditional. They want the man to earn all the money, be the leader, be stoic, never show emotions. Most western women let their men in relationships show vulnerability, that leads to a much closer connection between them.

- Sexually liberated. "Muh they're all whores", no, they just actually like sex instead of using it as bargain against their betabuxx husband. Sexual compatibility is important in a relationship, therefore waiting until marriage is stupid. It is much better when both like it than if the woman just lays there waiting for their betabuxx husband to finish.

JFL at users here glorifying betabuxx marriages in the Third world or the "good old times" in the West. Modern western women are the best by far. I can see how men with low SMV are frustrated, but don't cope with saying that western women are low-quality, that's just not true.

indeed op
only incels and uglos hate them because they cant get them

 

[gamma]

What about latinas?

 

[Deleted member 18840]

indeed op
only incels and uglos hate them because they cant get them

I hope algerian fundamentalists find u.

 

[gamma]

or you dont want SEA flat faced whore.

Go to Africa and ascend Rupert

 

[AlexAP]

Ure as liberal retard subhuman IQ coping degen mutt than is the finnish mongolian rat i forgot the name.

Wallenberg, and no I'm not him.

 

[alriodai]

I hope algerian fundamentalists find u.

Wtf how u know ... i am algerian??

 

[Deleted member 16530]

Aren't you Turkish? Are the women there more western or more traditional?

A mix

It ranges,some are very conservative some are like american women in the middle of 20th century regarding their views/characteristics and a portion of them are exactly today’s western women

 

[whiteissuperior]

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Wtf how u know ... i am algerian??

I know everything. My eyes are everywhere.
Don’t corrupt algerian girls else your lifetime is soon taken care of.
I know that you are tall for the standards there and many others things.
So repent before getting reaped

 

[BearBoy]

Op kys.
Ure as liberal retard subhuman IQ coping degen mutt than is the finnish mongolian rat i forgot the name.

What is this name @StrangerDanger ? He has gigachad meme avi now and he coped with ugly gooks

hey man whats with the racism for mongolians

 

[BearBoy]

Wtf how u know ... i am algerian??

He stalks everyone on here looking to suck some dick, his dry lips needs that elixir

 

[Deleted member 18840]

hey man whats with the racism for mongolians

Tbh my respects for monghols who are innocent but i will never forget when they invaded Baghad in the 12th century all of them i will never forget

 

[BearBoy]

Tbh my respects for monghols who are innocent but i will never forget when they invaded Baghad in the 12th century all of them i will never forget

Yes but that was past and they proved themselves to be strong warriors

 

[alriodai]

I know everything. My eyes are everywhere.
Don’t corrupt algerian girls else your lifetime is soon taken care of.
I know that you are tall for the standards there and many others things.
So repent before getting reaped

They’re already corrupted. MENA girls act innocent but are the most whory if you win their trust and heart. Just act liberal and boom. You got them and their pussy

 

[Deleted member 18840]

He stalks everyone on here looking to suck some dick, his dry lips needs that elixir

Stfu manlet hairy incel. Go get LL with my dick in dusseldorf train station. I waited for u the whole night and u pussied out

 

[Deleted member 18840]

They’re already corrupted. MENA girls act innocent but are the most whory if you win their trust and heart. Just act liberal and boom. You got them and their pussy

Depends on who. Any degen so called mena will get my wrath and pay. But if she genuinely pious anyway she won’t talk to degen guys

 

[AlexAP]

What about latinas?

They're good, no doubt about that. I still think western women fog them, in looks and personality. But that doesn't mean Latinas are bad.

 

[BearBoy]

Stfu manlet hairy incel. Go get LL with my dick in dusseldorf train station. I waited for u the whole night and u pussied out

you couldnt even spell the city right and i bet you cant even talk german, du fotze

 

[CFW432]

Intelligent?

I mean as long as they accept the blackpill as truth, and all its underlying concepts, then sure I guess. Except most don't lmao, and most have cognitive dissonance and are delusional and say they care about personality over looks (even though they practice the opposite in real life).

Personality?

Lmao no. It's a well know fact that even in the west you still can't even reveal your emotions to women because they get turned off by that unless you are atleast a chadlite (which most men are not).

 

[Deleted member 18840]

you couldnt even spell the city right and i bet you cant even talk german, du fotze

TOTALEN KRIEG
@Vietnam

 

[Lawton88]

Western women are the worst deal out there by far. 1/2 or more are overweight it seems. Many have to fake up like crazy to look decent. Yes most work now but still expect the guy to be a betabuxxer.

With how low quality most single females post college age are they still expect a guy above their looks level that makes more money than them for a LTR. Ask these western career females if they are going to give you any of their hard earned money while dating them and see the response you get.

There has never been a lower bar for women than there is for western women now.

 

[alriodai]

Depends on who. Any degen so called mena will get my wrath and pay. But if she genuinely pious anyway she won’t talk to degen guys

Lol yea if u are autistic and act "alpha" and woman hater (like theses coping gym rats on ytb comments) then no girl will talk to u. (Only ugly ones that seek validatiok) if u are a degen directly that too

But if u are kind nice sweet u can legit fuck any bitch if they find u attractive ngl

 

[AlexAP]

Wtf how u know ... i am algerian??

He also called me mestizo because he knew I'm half mestizo even though I never told him, he knows a lot about users here, he probably lurked for a year or so before making an account again.

 

[MoggerGaston]

- The best-looking women. With makeup, fashion and good hairstyle almost every women in the West can look good. They definitely look better than in the past. It is also true that non-white women who live in the West look better than the non-white women who live in their home countries.

Modern western women tend to be more fat on average than non-western counterparts. The other things I agree with you, so it's probably about even imo.

- Financially independent. Most traditional women want betabuxxers, that means the man has to work hard to have access to her pussy. Modern western women can take care of themselves and will bring an extra-income to the table. Of course you should have a job too, but they don't see you as an ATM like Third-world women.

As a man you are still expected to work full-time just as in the past, except relatively speaking you make much less money. 2 income households are now the standard since the value of male labor has dropped significantly.

Sure back in the day you were more expected to take care of a woman financially than you do now, but you also had the means (high wage) to do that easily if you wanted so. So again about even.

- Intelligent. "Muh all women only make gender studies degree at college", what a cope. Way less than 1% of all degrees in U.S. colleges are women's studies. Most women are as intelligent as men, there are a lot of smart women that you can have enlightening conversations with. Of course this is better than having a dumb women that only married you for money.

Intelligence has been ranked as one of the least important and least attractive traits a person can have. Both for men and for women. It's not really relevant.

I'd rather have a woman that knows how to cook, gives massages, take care of the garden, take care of the kids, decorate the house, etc. than an 'intelligent' woman.
Modern women lose out here imo. Or call it even since it's basically irrelevant.

- Good personality. Women from non-western countries are very traditional. They want the man to earn all the money, be the leader, be stoic, never show emotions. Most western women let their men in relationships show vulnerability, that leads to a much closer connection between them.

Completely unrelatable. Most western women do not let their men be vulnerable in relationships and still expect them to be the leader, be stoic, etc.

Women actually have awful personalities nowadays: They are very demanding and entitled.
Back in the day a 'good husband' was a guy that wasn't abusing alcohol, was a hard-(physical) worker, a man that could be relied upon.
Nowadays women want all that, but he also has to be hot and live an exciting life, and to spoil/please her regularly. Standards are way higher.

Women also tend to do more domestic violence nowadays, since as a man I am not allowed to beat them or use other ways to stay in control. The amber heard case is a clear example.

Also: Women don't take care of their boyfriends/husbands anymore. They don't cook, they don't spoil you, they will not give you sex when they are not in the mood themselves, and so on.

Modern western women lose HARD in the personality department.

- Sexually liberated. "Muh they're all whores", no, they just actually like sex instead of using it as bargain against their betabuxx husband. Sexual compatibility is important in a relationship, therefore waiting until marriage is stupid. It is much better when both like it than if the woman just lays there waiting for their betabuxx husband to finish.

Sexual liberation is awful because you are unlikely to be chad. When a woman has a n-count of 20, you are going to be compared to all her sexual partners in the past, and are very unlikely to measure up to them. Not in dicksize, not in dominating her properly.

Women in the past had less experience and therefore were less demanding sexually. Modern women still starfish just as often as in the past and aren't really into their husbands/boyfriends.

Also: Cheating has been completely normalized due to sexual liberation. Women could have a boyfriend/husband and have sex mostly with men outside of that relationship. Cuckoldry.

Again modern women lose out hard.

JFL at users here glorifying betabuxx marriages in the Third world or the "good old times" in the West. Modern western women are the best by far. I can see how men with low SMV are frustrated, but don't cope with saying that western women are low-quality, that's just not true.

Nope. Modern western women are awful.

 

[gamma]

They're good, no doubt about that. I still think western women fog them, in looks and personality. But that doesn't mean Latinas are bad.

They have a lot of casual sex, am I right?
Especially Brazil, Colombia

 

[Deleted member 14693]

Most western women let their men in relationships show vulnerability, that leads to a much closer connection between them.

M 36, F 33

She encouraged me to share my feelings, promised it would only make her feel closer to me, said she wanted to be there for me, all the right things. So when it finally happened the other day, and I told her about how hard I was taking some family stuff, she said it was ok to let it out. So I cried. And we talked. And I felt better.

That was about a month ago, and she's been steadily pulling away. I didn't want to jump the gun and think that every little, "I'm a little too tired tonight to hang out" was a signal, but it's been four weeks and I can honestly say the relationship is very different now and the only thing that's changed is that I cried in front of her. I haven't done anything differently, but I can feel the change.



I'm going to bring up my feelings to her this week, when I get a chance to see her again. But I'm pretty sure I know how it'll go. It'll go how it always goes. She'll say it has nothing to do with the emotions, she values that, it's just that *insert some ridiculous thing here* has been getting to her and she just needs some time alone to figure that out.



I'm a strong guy, but I need to cry sometimes. And I hate how often it totally changes the relationship. I feel so trapped. We've been together nine months. It's been really, really great. But now that I've shown her I'm vulnerable, I'm not the man she thought I was.



I will update with the full story after we talk ... but I think we all know what's going to happen.

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Lol yea if u are autistic and act "alpha" and woman hater (like theses coping gym rats on ytb comments) then no girl will talk to u. (Only ugly ones that seek validatiok) if u are a degen directly that too

But if u are kind nice sweet u can legit fuck any bitch if they find u attractive ngl

Ye its a brutal pill that kills me tbh i just want girls to genuinely be anti degen so it means they worthy of marriage but seems impossible.

 

[Deleted member 18840]

They have a lot of casual sex, am I right?
Especially Brazil, Colombia

Yes lol. Jfl.
Can’t get hornier. Got 3k matches in 2 days in sao paolo, nearly all dtf and messaged first. Its a diff story with french hoes acting prude

 

[gamma]

He also called me mestizo because he knew I'm half mestizo even though I never told him, he knows a lot about users here, he probably lurked for a year or so before making an account again.

He's an old user

 

[Deleted member 15338]

Op kys.
Ure as liberal retard subhuman IQ coping degen mutt than is the finnish mongolian rat i forgot the name.

What is this name @StrangerDanger ? He has gigachad meme avi now and he coped with ugly gooks

Being liberal is biggest subhuman trait there is, it is impossinle to be liberal with healthy T levels

 

[Deleted member 18840]

Being liberal is biggest subhuman trait there is, it is impossinle to be liberal with healthy T levels

Nah there is one exception. I’m liberal on dating apps.

 

[AlexAP]

Western women are the worst deal out there by far. 1/2 or more are overweight it seems. Many have to fake up like crazy to look decent. Yes most work now but still expect the guy to be a betabuxxer.

With how low quality most single females post college age are they still expect a guy above their looks level that makes more money than them for a LTR. Ask these western career females if they are going to give you any of their hard earned money while dating them and see the response you get.

There has never been a lower bar for women than there is for western women now.

I know about the overweight rates. When women get older, the rates go up.
Unfortunately in our time this is a problem for men too, so sadly they are "looksmatched." But if you don't get fat yourself there's still enough non-fat women left. And tbh it's not as crazy here in Germany, maybe it's worse in other western countries like the U.S.

About betabuxxing: In the U.S., in about one-third of marriages women earn more now, and it's the same here in Germany. Of course you still can't be unemployed, but betabuxxing is not as common as before or how it is still common in the Third world.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Lol yea if u are autistic and act "alpha" and woman hater (like theses coping gym rats on ytb comments) then no girl will talk to u. (Only ugly ones that seek validatiok) if u are a degen directly that too

But if u are kind nice sweet u can legit fuck any bitch if they find u attractive ngl

If ur nice/sweet u can fuck girls that find you attractive. But unless you are chad, that is going to be an extremely limited pool of women.

The reason why being a dick works, is because beyond fucking the girls that find you attractive, you can fuck the girls with self-esteem issues, you can fuck shy girls, you can fuck the girls that can be pressured into sex, you can fuck the girls that are just looking for excitement.

 

[MoggerGaston]

It's insane to read that a person that is unsuccesfull with modern western women like @AlexAP will come here and praise modern western women. An incel simp basically.

Get ur T levels checked.

 

[AlexAP]

M 36, F 33

She encouraged me to share my feelings, promised it would only make her feel closer to me, said she wanted to be there for me, all the right things. So when it finally happened the other day, and I told her about how hard I was taking some family stuff, she said it was ok to let it out. So I cried. And we talked. And I felt better.

That was about a month ago, and she's been steadily pulling away. I didn't want to jump the gun and think that every little, "I'm a little too tired tonight to hang out" was a signal, but it's been four weeks and I can honestly say the relationship is very different now and the only thing that's changed is that I cried in front of her. I haven't done anything differently, but I can feel the change.



I'm going to bring up my feelings to her this week, when I get a chance to see her again. But I'm pretty sure I know how it'll go. It'll go how it always goes. She'll say it has nothing to do with the emotions, she values that, it's just that *insert some ridiculous thing here* has been getting to her and she just needs some time alone to figure that out.



I'm a strong guy, but I need to cry sometimes. And I hate how often it totally changes the relationship. I feel so trapped. We've been together nine months. It's been really, really great. But now that I've shown her I'm vulnerable, I'm not the man she thought I was.



I will update with the full story after we talk ... but I think we all know what's going to happen.

Update us bro.

 

[Gestapo]

Modern western women tend to be more fat on average than non-western counterparts.

This is due to the influx and prevalence of cheap high calorie high palatable processed foods (fast food).
Obesity rates are going up in 3rd world countries every year as more fast food places and cheap high calorie foods become available.

'd rather have a woman that knows how to cook, gives massages, take care of the garden, take care of the kids, decorate the house, etc. than an 'intelligent' woman.

Many men who workout and live the bachelor life like me no longer find the need to get a women who knows how to cook clean and decorate.
I got into the habit of cleaning my apartment on a weekly basis and if people can't clean and organize in the way I like I get pissed. Same with meal prep I got into the habit of making meals with the right amount of calories, macros, and micros while also making it tasty. As for decorations I like posters of venom from Spiderman and shit like that.

Women in the past had less experience and therefore were less demanding sexually. Modern women still starfish just as often as in the past and aren't really into their husbands/boyfriends.

Also: Cheating has been completely normalized due to sexual liberation. Women could have a boyfriend/husband and have sex mostly with men outside of that relationship. Cuckoldry.

It's a cuck or be cucked world. Technically speaking you are being cucked or cucking in almost all areas of your life from work to sports to relationships.
The solution isn't anti sexual liberation. The solution is mogging and beating out as many men as you can in as many categories as you can.
This is easier said than done so I can see how some hopless incels would be against this. But if you are like me there is more to gain than to lose.

 

[youngmax]

- The best-looking women. With makeup, fashion and good hairstyle almost every women in the West can look good. They definitely look better than in the past. It is also true that non-white women who live in the West look better than the non-white women who live in their home countries.

- Financially independent. Most traditional women want betabuxxers, that means the man has to work hard to have access to her pussy. Modern western women can take care of themselves and will bring an extra-income to the table. Of course you should have a job too, but they don't see you as an ATM like Third-world women.

- Intelligent. "Muh all women only make gender studies degree at college", what a cope. Way less than 1% of all degrees in U.S. colleges are women's studies. Most women are as intelligent as men, there are a lot of smart women that you can have enlightening conversations with. Of course this is better than having a dumb women that only married you for money.

- Good personality. Women from non-western countries are very traditional. They want the man to earn all the money, be the leader, be stoic, never show emotions. Most western women let their men in relationships show vulnerability, that leads to a much closer connection between them.

- Sexually liberated. "Muh they're all whores", no, they just actually like sex instead of using it as bargain against their betabuxx husband. Sexual compatibility is important in a relationship, therefore waiting until marriage is stupid. It is much better when both like it than if the woman just lays there waiting for their betabuxx husband to finish.

JFL at users here glorifying betabuxx marriages in the Third world or the "good old times" in the West. Modern western women are the best by far. I can see how men with low SMV are frustrated, but don't cope with saying that western women are low-quality, that's just not true.

Ehh… some bits are correct.

 

[Gargantuan]

When discussing betabuxxing, I feel like it is important to make a distinction between a gold digger and a housewife. And I also feel like nearly everyone on this forum (myself included) would be willing to ''betabux'' for a housewife but not for a gold digger.

Being a gold digger and a housewife are 2 entirely separate things. A housewife is NOT a gold digger because a housewife is pulling her weight, she earns her keep. She’s there to look after the kids, to cook food, to wash clothes etc. That’s a hard job. Just as hard of a job as a man working outside of the house, albeit in a different way, of course. If the woman does her part, the man also has to do his part and pay for everything, to put a roof over everybody’s head, clothes on everyone’s back, petrol in the car, electricity etc.

A gold digger is a woman who wants a man to spoil her, pay for everything, take her on nice holidays, buy her nice things, pay for her drinks, pay for her meals etc. And she isn’t willing to lift a finger for him. Once in a blue moon, she might cook him some shitty meal as a superficial gesture but that’s it. She expects the man to do EVERYTHING while she does fuck all, that’s a gold digger.

The latter are the ones who are multiplying like cockroaches in today’s society whereas the former are basically unicorns at this point, at least in the west. This is probably the primary reason why users here are so resentful about the concept of betabuxxing.

So yeah, the third world would be a great option in acquiring an actual housewife and not a gold digger.

 

[alriodai]

If ur nice/sweet u can fuck girls that find you attractive. But unless you are chad, that is going to be an extremely limited pool of women.

The reason why being a dick works, is because beyond fucking the girls that find you attractive, you can fuck the girls with self-esteem issues, you can fuck shy girls, you can fuck the girls that can be pressured into sex, you can fuck the girls that are just looking for excitement.

Thats why i said "if they find u attractive"
Aka if they find u chad

 

[youngmax]

The best-looking women. With makeup, fashion and good hairstyle almost every women in the West can look good. They definitely look better than in the past. It is also true that non-white women who live in the West look better than the non-white women who live in their home countries.

Kind of true, I like big butts and western women today have the biggest butts in all history

- Financially independent. Most traditional women want betabuxxers, that means the man has to work hard to have access to her pussy. Modern western women can take care of themselves and will bring an extra-income to the table. Of course you should have a job too, but they don't see you as an ATM like Third-world women.

- Intelligent. "Muh all women only make gender studies degree at college", what a cope. Way less than 1% of all degrees in U.S. colleges are women's studies. Most women are as intelligent as men, there are a lot of smart women that you can have enlightening conversations with. Of course this is better than having a dumb women that only married you for money.

I don’t like these, I want a materialistic dumb girl that only thinks about sex.

- Good personality. Women from non-western countries are very traditional. They want the man to earn all the money, be the leader, be stoic, never show emotions. Most western women let their men in relationships show vulnerability, that leads to a much closer connection between them.

I don’t like this either, it makes the relationship less of a dominance-submission dynamic.

- Sexually liberated. "Muh they're all whores", no, they just actually like sex instead of using it as bargain against their betabuxx husband. Sexual compatibility is important in a relationship, therefore waiting until marriage is stupid. It is much better when both like it than if the woman just lays there waiting for their betabuxx husband to finish.

virgins are the way, the truth and the life.

 

[Deleted member 18840]

When discussing betabuxxing, I feel like it is important to make a distinction between a gold digger and a housewife. And I also feel like nearly everyone on this forum (myself included) would be willing to ''betabux'' for a housewife but not for a gold digger.

Being a gold digger and a housewife are 2 entirely separate things. A housewife is NOT a gold digger because a housewife is pulling her weight, she earns her keep. She’s there to look after the kids, to cook food, to wash clothes etc. That’s a hard job. Just as hard of a job as a man working outside of the house, albeit in a different way, of course. If the woman does her part, the man also has to do his part and pay for everything, to put a roof over everybody’s head, clothes on everyone’s back, petrol in the car, electricity etc.

A gold digger is a woman who wants a man to spoil her, pay for everything, take her on nice holidays, buy her nice things, pay for her drinks, pay for her meals etc. And she isn’t willing to lift a finger for him. Once in a blue moon, she might cook him some shitty meal as a superficial gesture but that’s it. She expects the man to do EVERYTHING while she does fuck all, that’s a gold digger.

The latter are the ones who are multiplying like cockroaches in today’s society whereas the former are basically unicorns at this point, at least in the west. This is probably the primary reason why users here are so resentful about the concept of betabuxxing.

So yeah, the third world would be a great option in acquiring an actual housewife and not a gold digger.

No no no no wtf larpers in chief like @Gestapo will tell you a woman isn’t worth it till she isn’t the equivalent of an independant garage of dicks.

 

[Gestapo]

No no no no wtf larpers in chief like @Gestapo will tell you a woman isn’t worth it till she isn’t the equivalent of an independant garage of dicks.

Another seething incel haha
I love how I say something that shakes an incels worldview and they respond with rage and false accusations.