USA is a Paper Tiger

[LXR]

From 2010 to 2020 if you defence blogs and statements released by USA Chief of Staff, you'd come to believe that China is a paper tiger. That no matter how much it invests in tech, it will always face a shock in real conflict.

Now think about the conflicsts USA has been involved in in the 21st century. Each and every one of them is a strategic failure, not to mention a huge waste of taxpayer money. They claim tactical victory but none of their long term political goals have been met. In the recent Iran war, it has made things worse.

Clausewitz, the foundational source for Napoleonic and post Napoleonic era, has stated that war is an extension of the state to achieve its political goals. It is when all other options have been exhausted. Thus, if we were to give weight to these statements, we would know that USA has a terrible track record in conventional conflicts while China has none.

Given this, the idea that USA is in any way more likely to win a conflict against China, a hopeless delusion by a declining power

 

[L(oser)ooksmaxxer]

USA is cooked it’s probably gonna collapse in the next 20 years

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

Disagree

 

[Chadeep]

Disagree

US needs China more than China Needs USA.
Most Service industry of USA is not even present in China. They even Humiliated Nvidia who was begging to sell GPU's

 

[FunnyVALENTINE]

From 2010 to 2020 if you defence blogs and statements released by USA Chief of Staff, you'd come to believe that China is a paper tiger. That no matter how much it invests in tech, it will always face a shock in real conflict.

Now think about the conflicsts USA has been involved in in the 21st century. Each and every one of them is a strategic failure, not to mention a huge waste of taxpayer money. They claim tactical victory but none of their long term political goals have been met. In the recent Iran war, it has made things worse.

Clausewitz, the foundational source for Napoleonic and post Napoleonic era, has stated that war is an extension of the state to achieve its political goals. It is when all other options have been exhausted. Thus, if we were to give weight to these statements, we would know that USA has a terrible track record in conventional conflicts while China has none.

Given this, the idea that USA is in any way more likely to win a conflict against China, a hopeless delusion by a declining power

Bro but USA has full control over lower castes like modi .
USA also humiliated India badly and open fired on their cruise ship.

Whatever India does today does with the permission of USA.

 

[LXR]

US needs China more than China Needs USA.
Most Service industry of USA is not even present in China. They even Humiliated Nvidia who was begging to sell GPU's

China only cares about the Nine Dash Line for the future, its the USA that is drumming up China as this big baddie to secure funds for their Navy and Air Force. They have finally realised that they cant build at the rate of Chinese

 

[LXR]

Bro but USA has full control over lower castes like modi .
USA also humiliated India badly and open fired on their cruise ship.

Whatever India does today does with the permission of USA.

How did India get in here ? Its a third rate military, and not even mentioned in the post

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Cope

 

[munnabhai]

From 2010 to 2020 if you defence blogs and statements released by USA Chief of Staff, you'd come to believe that China is a paper tiger. That no matter how much it invests in tech, it will always face a shock in real conflict.

Now think about the conflicsts USA has been involved in in the 21st century. Each and every one of them is a strategic failure, not to mention a huge waste of taxpayer money. They claim tactical victory but none of their long term political goals have been met. In the recent Iran war, it has made things worse.

Clausewitz, the foundational source for Napoleonic and post Napoleonic era, has stated that war is an extension of the state to achieve its political goals. It is when all other options have been exhausted. Thus, if we were to give weight to these statements, we would know that USA has a terrible track record in conventional conflicts while China has none.

Given this, the idea that USA is in any way more likely to win a conflict against China, a hopeless delusion by a declining power

sorry bro

we have geographical and financial supremacy over the world. both coasts are major oceans. good luck niggas

 

[LXR]

sorry bro

we have geographical and financial supremacy over the world. both coasts are major oceans. good luck niggas

This post is not about defending yourself from China, its about projecting power in South China Sea

 

[LXR]

Cope

3 people who have never read Clausewitz and Jominy and didnt understand the post

 

[munnabhai]

This post is not about defending yourself from China, its about projecting power in South China Sea

agreed not happening

 

[Baeseth]

US needs China more than China Needs USA.
Most Service industry of USA is not even present in China. They even Humiliated Nvidia who was begging to sell GPU's

Actually the opposite the USA was still the number 1 global economy before china ever industrialized If china lost the USA its economy would plummet if they can’t sell $1 plastic to americans for $30

 

[LXR]

Actually the opposite the USA was still the number 1 global economy before china ever industrialized If china lost the USA its economy would plummet if they can’t sell $1 plastic to americans for $30

Cope upon cope upon cope. Most money is through services and finance. No country in the Anglosphere has the shipbuilding capacity of China and Korea. And thats just one aspect.

 

[Chadeep]

Actually the opposite the USA was still the number 1 global economy before china ever industrialized If china lost the USA its economy would plummet if they can’t sell $1 plastic to americans for $30

USA Cucked itself by Offshoring Manufacturing to China.

 

[jozsef316@gmail]

Grove end import export

 

[LXR]

Grove end import export

Whats that supposed to mean ?

 

[Baeseth]

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USA Cucked itself by Offshoring Manufacturing to China.

Yeah because everything is finance and computers now, Only in china will u find slaves working for 1/5 the average american salary versus the average westerner shipping means nothing

if anything it’s a nerf only in the past did people slave away doing hard labor for cheap products we have machines in the west

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yeah because everything is finance and computers now, Only in china will u find slaves working for 1/5 the average american salary versus the average westerner shipping means nothing

if anything it’s a nerf only in the past did people slave away doing hard labor for cheap products we have machines in the west

This is also cope might have been right 40 years ago or something

 

[LXR]

Maybe it is the wrong website to post on

 

[LXR]

Yeah because everything is finance and computers now, Only in china will u find slaves working for 1/5 the average american salary versus the average westerner shipping means nothing

if anything it’s a nerf only in the past did people slave away doing hard labor for cheap products we have machines in the west

Ok name a single hypersonic missile program comparable to Chinese one in America

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I don't think USA is paper tiger but yes in the recent years china had made a lot of progress

 

[Baeseth]

Ok name a single hypersonic missile program comparable to Chinese one in America

The cold war is over nigga we don’t do shi like we used too plus we’re cucked by hella environmental laws and treaties against us doing that

 

[jozsef316@gmail]

Whats that supposed to mean ?

London grove end uk

 

[LXR]

I don't think USA is paper tiger but yes in the recent years china had made a lot of progress

The only ambition USA has in the South China Sea is to protect its allies Taiwan and Japan due their absolute stronghold on chipmaking. Japan produces the cutting edge materials and Taiwan fabricates the chips. But to do that you need to project force onto the South China Sea. That means bases and ships. China can simply lob Hypersonic glide vehicles and Tomahwaks wont do shit since they cant track the flight trajectory. USA is also significantly behind in hypersonic program of its own. Now the final blow is the US Navy has significant backlogs in both acquisition of ships and repair and maintenence. USA cant do jackshit to China and it cant do jackshit to Iran. If thats not a paper tiger I dont know what is

 

[LXR]

The cold war is over nigga we don’t do shi like we used too plus we’re cucked by hella environmental laws and treaties against us doing that

Did you realise that my entire post is about military ? Did you even read the post ?

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

US needs China more than China Needs USA.
Most Service industry of USA is not even present in China. They even Humiliated Nvidia who was begging to sell GPU's

He is saying the United States has failed many times in it's military operations.

He is forgetting that the United States atleast has deployed it's military overseas [1,000,000+ different US servicemembers were deployed to Iraq - not at the same time]
The US struck over 13,000 seperate targets [13,000 different things to shoot at, all succesfully hit] during the Iran conflict. This could be Planes, Drones, People, Buildings. This is probably the biggest show of Military capability in the world. Especially since it lasted so short.

This is something China simply cannot do. China could NEVER do what the US did in Iran. China could NEVER deploy 1,000,000 of it's service members to Iraq and dispose their government, replace the government with a US backed one.
The US did fail to get rid of the insurgents. As it has failed to do time and time and time again, since Insurgencies are basically impossible to defeat unless you genocide the entire country [which is why Israel is genociding gaza, since it cannot defeat HAMAS]

Did the US fail in Iran - YES
It seeked to do the impossible, and it simply could not do it
If China tried to do the same thing, could it? - NO
If China tried to do the same thing, could it do it better? - ABSOLUTELY NOT.

If literally any of the countries the US has failed to invade and completely succeed in their goals over the last century [Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, ETC] was as close to the US as Taiwan is to China, it would have succeeded - Even if they were backed by China [like Taiwan is]