Verified Russian deaths in Ukraine war now exceed 100k

[Deleted member 91663]

They do have an incentive in halting USA support to Ukraine though. Why would you not win quickly if you can ? And it is clear that USA and European support is really the only thing prolonging this skit. They cant do things right now in Europe but they have temporarily made USA reconsider its support to Ukraine. As for the ground I agree. Russian army has an outsized advantage because of sheer numbers and not having to import arms. They can also sustain their economy temporarily by sellijg gas and fertiliser to Non Anglosphere nations who dont care about the war

I think Putin wants to end the war but the Russians simply don't trust the Americans to uphold any deal that's signed.

 

[condommaxxing]

They should have at least tried to settle up their defences after Crimea was invaded in 2014. Like how couldnt they anticipate further agression ?

So much for a so called "military superpower"
Even if they win the war, it's pathetic.

This was just a fight in a pigsty. You are going to be the one to get dirty, not the pig

 

[Deleted member 104030]

There is a reason america wants the war to end now.... and it's not beacuse trump is le based it's beacuse they k ow if they don't get peace now there will be no more young men to kill

america wants peace because either trump is a russian agent (literally old kgb spies confirmed this) or because he wants the fame and glory he gets if he ends the war

 

[condommaxxing]

They literally only need america to stop support and the war ends within the year, europe is way weaker then most think.

This war proved it big time

 

[psychomandible]

america wants peace because either trump is a russian agent (literally old kgb spies confirmed this) or because he wants the fame and glory he gets if he ends the war

You're acting like he has real control

 

[Deleted member 91663]

They should have at least tried to settle up their defences after Crimea was invaded in 2014. Like how couldnt they anticipate further agression ?

Ukraine's continued independence was always going to be based on a delicate balancing act between good Western and Russian relations.

We were never going to fight a direct confrontation with Russia to preserve Ukrainian independence.

For this reason, Ukraine post 2014 should have pursued a policy of conciliation with Russia and the West.

Ukraine should have been a designated neutral countries with mutual trade deals with both Russia and Europe.

 

[Deleted member 131140]

I think Putin wants to end the war but the Russians simply don't trust the Americans to uphold any deal that's signed.

The funny thing is that Trump pretended to trust Putin but got angry when he didnt agree to the ceasefore deal. It is baffling how Conservatives who were always anti Russia almost feverishly along with Democrats now dont care about blatant land grabs
Had this happened during the Cold War we would have had Cuban Missile crisis part 2. Russians really played the long game

 

[Deleted member 131140]

Ukraine's continued independence was always going to be based on walking a fine tight rope between good Western and Russian relations.

We were never going to fight a direct confrontation with Russia to preserve Ukrainian independence.

For this reason, Ukraine post 2014 should have pursued a policy of conciliation with Russia and the West.

Ukraine should have been a designated neutral countries with mutual trade deals with both Russia and Europe.

Unfortunately, there were a lot of corrupt politicians in Ukraine who didnt give a rat's ass about anything other than filling their pockets. At least Zelensky has the balls to remain in his country and act as a leader. The President of Afghanistan ran away like a bitch the same year when the Taliban started their march to Kabul

 

[Deleted member 104030]

You're acting like he has real control

he literally does

he is making a deal with them to get the 500 billion and then letting them fall. he will get the max profit out of this and not cuck putin

europe alone will mot be able to supply ukraine for long

 

[Deleted member 91663]

The funny thing is that Trump pretended to trust Putin but got angry when he didnt agree to the ceasefore deal. It is baffling how Conservatives who were always anti Russia almost feverishly along with Democrats now dont care about blatant land grabs
Had this happened during the Cold War we would have had Cuban Missile crisis part 2. Russians really played the long game

The ceasefire was a dumb idea. Putin has zero reason to temporarily stop fighting when he's winning the war.
Putin has manoeuvred it well though, getting the US to agree to this non sensical energy ceasefire while they continue to make gains on the battlefield.

This is a controversial opinion but I think the Ukraine disaster is Russia's equivalent of the Cuban Missile crisis

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Unfortunately, there were a lot of corrupt politicians in Ukraine who didnt give a rat's ass about anything other than filling their pockets. At least Zelensky has the balls to remain in his country and act as a leader. The President of Afghanistan ran away like a bitch the same year when the Taliban started their march to Kabul

I'm not saying it's fair.
Ukraine is next to a shitty neigbor but they are far more powerful and the West was never going to intercede on Ukraine's behalf.
It was of existential importance to Ukraine to have good relations with Russia.

 

[Deleted member 131140]

The ceasefire was a dumb idea. Putin has zero reason to temporarily stop fighting when he's winning the war.
Putin has manoeuvred it well though, getting the US to agree to this non sensical energy ceasefire while they continue to make gains on the battlefield.

This is a controversial opinion but I think the Ukraine disaster is Russia's equivalent of the Cuban Missile crisis

Yeah, I begrudgingly respect the long game. When Putin came in as President two decades ago nobody really thought that he would attempt an invasion as blatantly as he did.

 

[Deleted member 131140]

I'm not saying it's fair.
Ukraine is next to a shitty neigbor but they are far more powerful and the West was never going to intercede on Ukraine's behalf.
It was of existential importance to Ukraine to have good relations with Russia.

I agree, Ukraine is doomed.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

I agree, Ukraine is doomed.

Pretty much.
It's a shame Ukraine couldn't have just been neutralized like Austria was after the war.

They could have been a very successful bridge between the East and the West.

 

[Brus Wane]

@Brus Wane thoughts ? @Shahnameh thoughts ?

Not sure what you want me to say …

Life is cheap in Russia

Outside of the urban areas, theres nothing much to live for

You dont get proper education and your local representatives either sell out to the Kremlin or straight up dont give a shit about you

You either get forced to the front lines or go there out of your own “free will” from all the propaganda youve been fed

Wouldnt be surprised if that number is higher

 

[Deleted member 131140]

Not sure what you want me to say …

Life is cheap in Russia

Outside of the urban areas, theres nothing much to live for

You dont get proper education and your local representatives either sell out to the Kremlin or straight up dont give a shit about you

You either get forced to the front lines or go there out of your own “free will” from all the propaganda youve been fed

Wouldnt be surprised if that number is higher

It is way higher on both sides. I unfortunately could not find a reliable source for Ukraine becuase the number was outlandish like only 43,000. I mean obviously its complete crap and both sides are waay underestimating their death tolls.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Not sure what you want me to say …

Life is cheap in Russia

Outside of the urban areas, theres nothing much to live for

You dont get proper education and your local representatives either sell out to the Kremlin or straight up dont give a shit about you

You either get forced to the front lines or go there out of your own “free will” from all the propaganda youve been fed

Wouldnt be surprised if that number is higher

My understanding with Russia is that it's not Orwellian authoritarianism that demands unwavering support of the state like China.
Russians have told me that as long as you don't politically organize against Putin, you can have your own opinions and it's okay.

 

[Brus Wane]

My understanding with Russia is that it's not Orwellian authoritarianism that demands unwavering support of the state like China.
Russians have told me that as long as you don't politically organize against Putin, you can have your own opinions and it's okay.

Ive been to China and its more or less the same thing

Do whatever you want man

Do feminist things, commit adultery, support LGBT, smoke in public, cook dog meat or whatever

But if you criticise the ccp, evade taxes or disrupt social order, its curtains for you

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Ive been to China and its more or less the same thing

Do whatever you want man

Commit adultery, support LGBT, cook dog meat or whatever

But if you criticise the ccp, evade taxes or disrupt social order, its curtains for you

I remember Jack Ma literally disappearing for months for some pretty mild criticism of the Chinese central bank.

 

[Deleted member 131140]

I remember Jack Ma literally disappearing for months for some pretty mild criticism of the Chinese central bank.

They subsidise industry because they understand the power they have in manufacturing and industry. But that comes at the cost of no dissent at all. If you dont like the policies then you keep your trap shut. And surprisingly, its worked for them uptil now. The skewed demographics will bite them but not in the near future.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Ive been to China and its more or less the same thing

Do whatever you want man

Do feminist things, commit adultery, support LGBT, smoke in public, cook dog meat or whatever

But if you criticise the ccp, evade taxes or disrupt social order, its curtains for you

China surely has to be worse though?
Russia doesn’t have anything comparable with their social credit system.
The rich oligarchs seem to be on a much tighter leash in China as well.

 

[Brus Wane]

I remember Jack Ma literally disappearing for months for some pretty mild criticism of the Chinese central bank.

It wasnt mild criticism, he publicly castigated financial regulators, which is implicitly saying the federal govt is incompetent

Idk what the numbers are but most anti putin billionaires/celebrities live in western europe and in the united states … wonder why

Even garry kasparov cant go home anymore

One is not more “tolerant” or “heavy handed” than the other IMO

Disclaimer: im chinese but not a China citizen so if this sounds like a wumao post then whatever so be it

 

[Deleted member 91663]

They subsidise industry because they understand the power they have in manufacturing and industry. But that comes at the cost of no dissent at all. If you dont like the policies then you keep your trap shut. And surprisingly, its worked for them uptil now. The skewed demographics will bite them but not in the near future.

It’s a great paradox for China.

State capitalism has ensured China’s meteoric rise but its very success threatens the CCP existentially.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

It wasnt mild criticism, he publicly castigated financial regulators, which is implicitly saying the federal govt is incompetent

Idk what the numbers are but most anti putin billionaires live in western europe and in the united states

Even garry kasparov cant go home anymore

One is not more “tolerant” or “heavy handed” than the other IMO

Disclaimer: im chinese but not a China citizen so if this sounds like a wumao post then whatever so be it

Yeah, you’re right. My mistake.
Still pretty incredible that the richest man in China literally went AWOL for months.

 

[Deleted member 131140]

China surely has to be worse though?
Russia doesn’t have anything comparable with their social credit system.
The rich oligarchs seem to be on a much tighter leash in China as well.

They are worse socially absolutely. But neither the population cares nor the government has any incentive to change. By the end of the century they will face big trouble because all the nonsensical decisions will only pile up due 0 opposition and it will unravel the country. But for now I dont think there is any danger. It will be a slow decline not overnight, maybe it can happen noticeably by mid century too

 

[Brus Wane]

Yeah, you’re right. My mistake.
Still pretty incredible that the richest man in China literally went AWOL for months.

He was awol by choice btw

They just fucked up his IPO but he didnt get poisoned or fall out of a 10 storey building or anything like that (still sucks tho)

He spent his time in Japan and Hainan Island (still china but its far from beijing so my guess is they had this understanding that if he shuts up, theyll leave him be)

The message was : nigga you done went too far , do it again see what happens

Anyway in the face of USA trade war, looks like theyre cool once again

 

[Deleted member 91663]

They are worse socially absolutely. But neither the population cares nor the government has any incentive to change. By the end of the century they will face big trouble because all the nonsensical decisions will only pile up due 0 opposition and it will unravel the country. But for now I dont think there is any danger. It will be a slow decline not overnight, maybe it can happen noticeably by mid century too

I’ve spoken to a lot of Russians.
The youngsters, especially born post USSR don’t like Putin at all.

However, older people who remember the instability of the 90s support Putin or at the very least see him as a form of continuity and stability.

Essentially, they don’t know what would replace him and would rather stick with the devil they know.

 

[Deleted member 131140]

I’ve spoken to a lot of Russians.
The youngsters, especially born post USSR don’t Putin at all.

However, older people who remember the instability of the 90s support Putin and at the very least see him as a form of continuity and stability.

Essentially, they don’t know what would replace him and would rather stick with the devil they know.

Those 1990s people probably hate the instability because of Boris Yeltsin. Horrible mismanagement

 

[Deleted member 91663]

Those 1990s people probably hate the instability because pf Boris Yeltsin. Horrible mismanagement

Yes and Putin, to his credit, did stabilize the situation in the early 2000s.

 

[Deleted member 131140]

Yes and Putin, to his credit, did stabilize the situation in the early 2000s.

Yeah that is why he was liked initially. Because he seemed to be interested in domestic issues more than antagonising his neighbours

 

[FiendFiend]

Official WW3 soon

any second now

 

[Deleted member 131140]

any second now

I dont think this will spill over into WW3

 

[FiendFiend]

Yeah that is why he was liked initially. Because he seemed to be interested in domestic issues more than antagonising his neighbours

ion think he antagonised no one, but i dont think ukraine did either. I think neo cons and neo libs were purely at blame for not accepting russia into nato because of past greivances. They made putins villain arc.

 

[FiendFiend]

I dont think this will spill over into WW3

yeah nothing ever happens jfl

 

[Deleted member 131140]

ion think he antagonised no one, but i dont think ukraine did either. I think neo cons and neo libs were purely at blame for not accepting russia into nato because of past greivances. They made putins villain arc.

At this point the war will have adverse effects on both countries much more on Ukraine though.

 

[FiendFiend]

The Russians at least walk away with 20%+ of Ukrainian territory.

Ukraine was cajoled into fighting a losing battle with a superior enemy and has zero to show for it.

I say this with respect. They have fought incredibly bravely.

the ukrainian people were rugpulled harder than a crypto scam.

USA is getting their recourses, they have to pay back EU loans, their women got fucked, 20% of their country is occupied. I dont know how the fuck ukrainians arent declaring jihad against the west. They have been fucked over by them as much as russia has atp

 

[standardcel]

Good

 

[Deleted member 131140]

the ukrainian people were rugpulled harder than a crypto scam.

USA is getting their recourses, they have to pay back EU loans, their women got fucked, 20% of their country is occupied. I dont know how the fuck ukrainians arent declaring jihad against the west. They have been fucked over by them as much as russia has atp

They cant do shit right now brcause a significant portion of their men have died

 

[FiendFiend]

At this point the war will have adverse effects on both countries much more on Ukraine though.

yeah facts. Niggas be like "muh russia getting richer cuz of the war actually!" bro the average russian is experiencing Gen Z housing issue, and economic issues not as bad as in the west, but definitley harder now cuz of the ukraine war. The quality of life for the average russian is dropping. Average ukrainian is in eternal debt.

Its really a shame this shit happend. Trumps dumb ass is right when he says "this should have never happend".

 

[Deleted member 131140]

yeah facts. Niggas be like "muh russia getting richer cuz of the war actually!" bro the average russian is experiencing Gen Z housing issue, and economic issues not as bad as in the west, but definitley harder now cuz of the ukraine war. The quality of life for the average russian is dropping. Average ukrainian is in eternal debt.

Its really a shame this shit happend. Trumps dumb ass is right when he says "this should have never happend".

Trump is right about a lot of things actually. He was also against the Iraq war. It just so happens that the things he is right about are less important than the things he is wrong about

 

[FiendFiend]

They cant do shit right now brcause a significant portion of their men have died

yeah im really curious who is going to pay off their debt. Their debt is probably like 1 fucking trillion now for a country with a gdp of 180 billion. Corruption is the main culprit in this shit.

I dont think there has been one ukrainian president who hasnt been corrupt or in a scandal or in bed with some oligarch. Russia does have billionaires and shit but its atleast fucking organized and they anwser to their president, therefore its not an oligarchy. However ukraine is just a fucking free for all, corruption is insane there.

 

[FiendFiend]

Trump is right about a lot of things actually. He was also against the Iraq war. It just so happens that the things he is right about are less important than the things he is wrong about

I agree. The thing that is funny about iraq and what he said is that, we went into iraq, and didnt even get the oil and we pulled out

jfl US made the mistake of going into iraq and losing a bunch of lives there, you should have atleast protected the asset you now own and get money from oil. But nah obama withdrew like a retard and before u knew it ISIS came. If you accidently shove a knife into your stomach, your meant to keep it there not pull it out so u start fucking bleeding everywhere jfl.

 

[SamosaChutneyCel]

What a sad waste of lives, i feel so bad for all the families losing their sons to this pointless american jewish war

Let’s be honest here. The only victors of the war are the men who are enjoying the Ukrainian whores who have left their men

 

[Deleted member 131140]

Let’s be honest here. The only victors of the war are the men who are enjoying the Ukrainian whores who have left their men

That thing was only posted on blackpill spaces. Funny how that works

 

[Bars]

Most of it aren't ethnic russians

Russia’s ethnic minorities lament the war in Ukraine

Ethnic minority troops are said to be dying in greater numbers than their Slav compatriots in the so-called ‘special mil

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Deleted member 131140]

They are mostly mercenaries from provinces

That is actually something very important to keep in mind. Georgia and Chechen probably

 

[SamosaChutneyCel]

That thing was only posted on blackpill spaces. Funny how that works

I see literal subhuman pajeets ascending with Ukrainian foids.
Do you recall what happened after the Germans lost in world war 1? The French occupied the Rhineland and they wanted to humiliate the Germans. So they got their colonial soldiers from west and central Africa stationed in Rhineland.

Guess what happened? The negro African soldiers of the French army raped multiple white German women in the Rhineland. Hitler wrote about this In ‘mein kampf’ And referred to “bastards in the rhine” who needed to be sterilised.

Again, mark my words, when the war ends there will be hordes of curries niggers and gooks in Ukraine looking to race mix with white Slavic foids who are destitute

 

[Deleted member 131140]

I see literal subhuman pajeets ascending with Ukrainian foids.
Do you recall what happened after the Germans lost in world war 1? The French occupied the Rhineland and they wanted to humiliate the Germans. So they got their colonial soldiers from west and central Africa stationed in Rhineland.

Guess what happened? The negro African soldiers of the French army raped multiple white German women in the Rhineland. Hitler wrote about this In ‘mein kampf’ And referred to “bastards in the rhine” who needed to be sterilised.

Again, mark my words, when the war ends there will be hordes of curries niggers and gooks in Ukraine looking to race mix with white Slavic foids who are destitute

If they have a brain, hopefully they dont allow them in

 

[Deleted member 91663]

They cant do shit right now brcause a significant portion of their men have died

And millions of Ukrainians have fled the country and will never come back to rebuild it.

 

[Deleted member 91663]

yeah im really curious who is going to pay off their debt. Their debt is probably like 1 fucking trillion now for a country with a gdp of 180 billion. Corruption is the main culprit in this shit.

I dont think there has been one ukrainian president who hasnt been corrupt or in a scandal or in bed with some oligarch. Russia does have billionaires and shit but its atleast fucking organized and they anwser to their president, therefore its not an oligarchy. However ukraine is just a fucking free for all, corruption is insane there.

At least Yanukovych, for all his faults, understood that alienating Russia would be absolutely catastrophic for Ukraine.

Zelensky talking about NATO accession and nuclear weapons set off a powder keg.