What a "wide head" actually is

[Klasik616]

That's not what I meant. Turbomanletism is much more brutal than being moonfaced. I meant being 5'6-5'10 is less brutal than the difference between these two images:

Understood. I answered my own question soon after asking it. Interfrontotemporale:interpterion should be 1. If noticeably <1, you get the moonface look. If noticeably >1, the proportion between your interfrontotemporale breadth and the widest part of your neurocranium will get skewed.

In these images, the interfrontotemporale:interpterion ratio remained intact, but his posterior neurocranium was narrowed.

I was looking into the lateral insertion point of the palpebral fissure but gave up. If it inserts near the orbitale, then a narrow interorbitale breadth is what cucks someone's PFL. Otherwise, interorbitale breadth is useless like you said.

To an extent, yes. However, the original facial width idea I mentioned in this thread was closer to it. Interporion = inter-temples. IDT interorbitale was really significant in the discussion in that thread

I agree with you. I'm still trying to wrap my head around all this info. Can't formulate a proper conclusion rn

She looks like Michael Jackson in this morph

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She looks hyper-fishfaced because of her PFL. Brutal

Yes. Good point.

Two comments:
1. The ICD:IPD ratio should really be ICD:bizygomaitc or ICD:interporion/inter-temples(the reason I invoked the entire topic of interporion distance is because bi-temple breadth seems to be defined by it...it may not be tbh)
2. Type II also cucks your PFL, as mentioned by @mvp2v1 in one of his threads:

I think splitting it into types is pseudo-sophistication, however. Spacially close-set orbitals simply means having a low interorbital breadth. Does it really have anything to do with the moonface look in itself? I think, like you said, interorbitale:bizygomatic is a relatively trash ratio.

Actually useful info. Explains why my face looks bigger and wider after getting a haircut.

 

[AscendingHero]

The "wide head and close set eyes" bloated/moonface look is caused by there being lots of space between the outer corners of the eyes and the sides of the head:

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Original Photo:
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Narrower Head:
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Wider IPD and OCD:
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See how she has less of the ugly-ass "wide head" look even though her head is the same width.

Great post

What's the ideal OCD to Bizygomatic ratio for peak aesthetics for male and female respectively would you say? And how ideally should OCD harmonize with IPD/ICD?

Ideal female head width? (eurion to eurion), she loses some neoteny with a more dolicho head shape

Great to see you back like this @thecel, we missed you