what are us colleges even about

[evilfoidslayer]

You pay a trillion for a shitty diploma AND I see they get kicked out so easily .

 

[zakachiti]

You pay a trillion for a shitty diploma AND I see they get kicked out so easily .

Exactly this

 

[tittenoderarsch?]

You pay a trillion for a shitty diploma AND I see they get kicked out so easily .

shootings

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Exactly this

shootings

American unis are unmoggable. Tbh Great teaching style, great classrooms, top tier professors, up to date syllabus, so many extra curriculars and exposre and most of all world wide brand name. I remember going through the Gates computer science building in Stanford at an event and thinking wow. I wish even my uni was like this

Even if the fees is high it is worth it imo. I still loved my uni. It is still tier 1 in my country and i completed my education for a fraction of the cost but Missing out on all this still remains one of my biggest regrets. I do plan to do my masters from some big name americsn uni tho.

@Chadeep @LXR

 

[LXR]

American unis are unmoggable. Tbh Great teaching style, great classrooms, top tier professors, up to date syllabus, so many extra curriculars and exposre and most of all world wide brand name. I remember going through the gates computer science building in Stanford thinking wow. I wish even my uni was like this

Even if the fees is high it is worth it imo. I still loved my uni. It is still tier 1 in my country and i completed my education for a fraction of the cost but Missing out on all this still remains one of my biggest regrets. I do plan to do my masters from some big name americsn uni tho.

@Chadeep @LXR

USA mogs in subjects most people havent heard about. The depth and breadth of research is uncomparable

 

[zakachiti]

American unis are unmoggable. Tbh Great teaching style, great classrooms, top tier professors, up to date syllabus, so many extra curriculars and exposre and most of all world wide brand name. I remember going through the gates computer science building in Stanford thinking wow. I wish even my uni was like this

Even if the fees is high it is worth it imo. I still loved my uni. It is still tier 1 in my country and i completed my education for a fraction of the cost but Missing out on all this still remains one of my biggest regrets. I do plan to do my masters from some big name americsn uni tho.

@Chadeep @LXR

Statusmaxxed jewrunned unis, ofc they are the best

 

[evilfoidslayer]

American unis are unmoggable. Tbh Great teaching style, great classrooms, top tier professors, up to date syllabus, so many extra curriculars and exposre and most of all world wide brand name. I remember going through the Gates computer science building in Stanford at an event and thinking wow. I wish even my uni was like this

Even if the fees is high it is worth it imo. I still loved my uni. It is still tier 1 in my country and i completed my education for a fraction of the cost but Missing out on all this still remains one of my biggest regrets. I do plan to do my masters from some big name americsn uni tho.

@Chadeep @LXR

Not talking about the top unis tho

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Statusmaxxed jewrunned unis, ofc they are the best

I think it depends. For me an immigrant it doesn't really matter because I'll be over paying anyway but if you are an American try to go the best uni in your state. Out tution fee for certain unis is very high and don't try to take a loan. I have a co worker who went to uc berkley just for the brand name but is in mountains of debt. He does make good money now but it will take him like 6 years to be debt free.

 

[zakachiti]

but it will take him like 6 years to be debt free.

Average US college experience

 

[volgograd009]

You pay a trillion for a shitty diploma AND I see they get kicked out so easily .

Except getting bodies nothing so interesting it's even bad because you don't even do shit with the diploma

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Average US college experience

I think American unis to be more like German unis tbh. A lot of them do useless spending on things fancy campuses, sports programs, huge admin overhead while tuition keeps increasing

 

[vortex878]

USA mogs in subjects most people havent heard about. The depth and breadth of research is uncomparable

will learning those niche subjects equate to any success in life tho? Thats kinda the whole point of university, to get a degree so you can get a job and earn money

 

[cortisolspike]

experience from school shooters

 

[pepotero]

Sending bombs

 

[LXR]

will learning those niche subjects equate to any success in life tho? Thats kinda the whole point of university, to get a degree so you can get a job and earn money

Thats for you. Most people who do research in those subjects are far smarter than you can even dream about. The people who are at the top in those fields are some of the smartest in the world. At that level, earning money and having a job is considered something normal people do. These people do it because they love the subject and plebs like us benefit from it

 

[vortex878]

Thats for you. Most people who do research in those subjects are far smarter than you can even dream about. The people who are at the top in those fields are some of the smartest in the world. At that level, earning money and having a job is considered something normal people do. These people do it because they love the subject and plebs like us benefit from it

Okay can you provide an example of what you’re talking about

 

[LXR]

Okay can you provide an example of what you’re talking about

Terrence Tao is a pretty good example. Every single researcher in Machine Learning before AI boomed with Chatgpt. Researchers working with CERN. Researchers in NASA working on astronomy.

These are not paid as well as most managers or guys with 10+ years of experience. Still plenty of people do it because they loved the subject

 

[vortex878]

Terrence Tao is a pretty good example. Every single researcher in Machine Learning before AI boomed with Chatgpt. Researchers working with CERN. Researchers in NASA working on astronomy.

These are not paid as well as most managers or guys with 10+ years of experience. Still plenty of people do it because they loved the subject

I see, interesting

 

[Jason Voorhees]

American unis are unmoggable. Tbh Great teaching style, great classrooms, top tier professors, up to date syllabus, so many extra curriculars and exposre and most of all world wide brand name. I remember going through the Gates computer science building in Stanford at an event and thinking wow. I wish even my uni was like this

Even if the fees is high it is worth it imo. I still loved my uni. It is still tier 1 in my country and i completed my education for a fraction of the cost but Missing out on all this still remains one of my biggest regrets. I do plan to do my masters from some big name americsn uni tho.

@Chadeep @LXR

@orz

 

[shedontluv-U]

You pay a trillion for a shitty diploma AND I see they get kicked out so easily .

If you want to have a good carrière being going as normal guy not being in t14 is useless

 

[evilfoidslayer]

If you want to have a good carrière being going as normal guy not being in t14 is useless

Are u french

 

[Alexg_lover]

Thats for you. Most people who do research in those subjects are far smarter than you can even dream about. The people who are at the top in those fields are some of the smartest in the world. At that level, earning money and having a job is considered something normal people do. These people do it because they love the subject and plebs like us benefit from it

Fr like I am not studying physics in order to get a stable income or to get rich. For a stable income I would just study in Norway and for the latter I would go to canda or sweeden. I wanted to go to an ivy because they had so much more endowment per student its actually crazy. Now that allows for much more research at college level + the university structure fits me way more. Like princeton has their own fucking plasma lab where you can intern during summer. Won't get that anywhere else

 

[shedontluv-U]

Are u french

I'm not but

Mais je parle français tu parle français aussi ?? J'ai appris le français au Québec? Et pourquoi tu me rep pas espèces de fils de chien

 

[orz]

American unis are unmoggable. Tbh Great teaching style, great classrooms, top tier professors, up to date syllabus, so many extra curriculars and exposre and most of all world wide brand name. I remember going through the Gates computer science building in Stanford at an event and thinking wow. I wish even my uni was like this

Even if the fees is high it is worth it imo. I still loved my uni. It is still tier 1 in my country and i completed my education for a fraction of the cost but Missing out on all this still remains one of my biggest regrets. I do plan to do my masters from some big name americsn uni tho.

@Chadeep @LXR

Is there any reason you want to get a masters? From what ik, it seems like ppl only get masters in CS if they can’t get a job straight out of undergrad, but u already have a job. Its also 50k a yr haha… and u gotta TA which is lowk a pain no?


In response to OP, American Unis are expensive but ppl still go cus the experience is unmoggable and it’s relatively accessible if ur high iq and get accepted into a top school. Most top schools completely waive tuition if ur family makes <150k.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Fr like I am not studying physics in order to get a stable income or to get rich. For a stable income I would just study in Norway and for the latter I would go to canda or sweeden. I wanted to go to an ivy because they had so much more endowment per student its actually crazy. Now that allows for much more research at college level + the university structure fits me way more. Like princeton has their own fucking plasma lab where you can intern during summer. Won't get that anywhere else

The research culture in america is also much much better. CSE undergrads literally had access to super computer. I was stunned when I saw this..

Thread 'One thing I truly appreciate about American Universities' https://looksmax.org/threads/one-thing-i-truly-appreciate-about-american-universities.1635442/

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Is there any reason you want to get a masters? From what ik, it seems like ppl only get masters in CS if they can’t get a job straight out of undergrad, but u already have a job. Its also 50k a yr haha… and u gotta TA which is lowk a pain no?


In response to OP, American Unis are expensive but ppl still go cus the experience is unmoggable and it’s relatively accessible if ur high iq and get accepted into a top school. Most top schools completely waive tuition if ur family makes <150k.

Generally yes job experience is better but it is completely valid for certain math heavy domains like AI/ML, block chain etc. Also for those waive tution things jr only applies to in state candidates and also comes with a lots of catch 22s. . My coworker was telling me how eveyrone used to be jealous of those niggas in the blue and gold plan or whatever literally free uni and applied to all unis with uc before their name.

 

[loseratgenes]

You pay a trillion for a shitty diploma AND I see they get kicked out so easily .

U.S. colleges are just meant to be the lobbies where pro players can quickly XP farm low level noobs

 

[Alexg_lover]

In response to OP, American Unis are expensive but ppl still go cus the experience is unmoggable and it’s relatively accessible if ur high iq and get accepted into a top school. Most top schools completely waive tuition if ur family makes <150k.

Top american universities being need blind for international universities also make them soooo fucking hard to get into. Its easier to get into oxbridge than all ivies except maybe darthmouth and brown. Half of of india and china are applying, but besides the statistical disadvantage of applying in the US, the weighting is also very diffrent. They care uneccecerily much about ECs. Like it doesn't matter what grades you have because everyone has straight As or IB 42+. You can't catch up in ECs with someone who has been preparing since age 6, but in england good grades give you an interview. There you can iqmog the fuck out of Rajesh but you can't have a better profile on paper. Not really too relevant to what you said but kind of a rant. I could not afford oxbridge

 

[orz]

Generally yes job experience is better but it is completely valid for certain math heavy domains like AI/ML, block chain etc. Also for those waive tution things jr only applies to in state candidates and also comes with a lots of catch 22s. . My coworker was telling me how eveyrone used to be jealous of those niggas in the blue and gold plan or whatever literally free uni and applied to all unis with uc before their name.

Are u gonna transition from IT to AI/ML?

It also applies to the top private schools but yeah u need to be American to qual I think.

 

[orz]

Top american universities being need blind for international universities also make them soooo fucking hard to get into. Its easier to get into oxbridge than all ivies except maybe darthmouth and brown. Half of of india and china are applying, but besides the statistical disadvantage of applying in the US, the weighting is also very diffrent. They care uneccecerily much about ECs. Like it doesn't matter what grades you have because everyone has straight As or IB 42+. You can't catch up in ECs with someone who has been preparing since age 6, but in england good grades give you an interview. There you can iqmog the fuck out of Rajesh but you can't have a better profile on paper. Not really too relevant to what you said but kind of a rant. I could not afford oxbridge

Yeah this is true but at least in the UK u only need to go to college for 3 yrs, and it’s cheaper than it is in the US. TBH college doesn’t do much for job prospects in the US, so I wouldn’t stress too much if u don’t go to a tier 1 school. If ur high iq and agency you should have no trouble getting an interview at a decent place, and given you know your shit and have good peoples skills you will find a good job.

 

[Alexg_lover]

I think it depends. For me an immigrant it doesn't really matter because I'll be over paying anyway but if you are an American try to go the best uni in your state. Out tution fee for certain unis is very high and don't try to take a loan. I have a co worker who went to uc berkley just for the brand name but is in mountains of debt. He does make good money now but it will take him like 6 years to be debt free.

Yeah thats why I didn't apply to any UCs, and why I only went for needblind t20s. Education is free in my country anyway, so its not worth going into debt. I kinda regret not applying to darthmouth though, I was too obsessed with QS rankings

 

[Alexg_lover]

Yeah this is true but at least in the UK u only need to go to college for 3 yrs, and it’s cheaper than it is in the US. TBH college doesn’t do much for job prospects in the US, so I wouldn’t stress too much if u don’t go to a tier 1 school. If ur high iq and agency you should have no trouble getting an interview at a decent place, and given you know your shit and have good peoples skills you will find a good job.

The issue with the UK is that tuitions fees and quality of education almost follow a linear relationship. Like loughborough costs about 20k a year I think. Thats not really worth it, but it would be worth it to go to Imperial for the same tuition. Then you check Imperial's tuition only to realize its 50k. Same goes for oxbridge. The job prospects part in the US is low key true but in academia it matters a bit more. Also, if you don't go into research its easier to start a buisness or pivot into finance with a STEM degree

Btw I would have gotten cheap af tuition at oxbridge if I was a little older, fucking brexit man

 

[orz]

The issue with the UK is that tuitions fees and quality of education almost follow a linear relationships. Like Loroughborough costs about 20k a year I think. Thats not really worth it, but it would be worth it to go to Imperial for the same tuition. Then you check Imperial's tuition only to realize its 50k. Same goes for oxbridge. The job prospects part in the US is low key true but in academia it matters a bit more. Also, if you don't go into research its easier to start a buisness or pivot into finance with a STEM degree

I don’t mean to be rude but why on earth would you ever want to go into academia? Many of my very close family members are in academia and virtually all of them regret it. The pay is subpar, and some of them didn’t even get a job until they were 30 cus they had to do post-doctorate work. If we look at the pace AI is improving (I.e. harmonic AI, claude opus, 3.1 pro) by the time you finish ur doctorate 10 years from now you won’t be able to get a job. The people ik in academia are basically all using some form of AI to output 10x the work they were able to just a few years ago, meaning soon universities will just drop the less productive faculty and keep the ones who are 10x. I won’t be as bold to say all faculty positions will be gone, but it’ll be much much harder and there will probably be even more comp for an even smaller pool of PHD programs that currently exist.

Edit: I was on mobile so didn't get a chance to scroll up, but I now see that you are truly passionate about physics. If that's the case, i'm sure your intelligence is high enough for you to pursue some other endeavor if AGI takes over your field. I still urge you to think before committing to something that will bar you from enjoying your prime years tho. perhaps there are other ways to keep physics in your life without the 10 year sacrifice.

 

[Alexg_lover]

I don’t mean to be rude but why on earth would you ever want to go into academia? Many of my very close family members are in academia and virtually all of them regret it. The pay is subpar, and some of them didn’t even get a job until they were 30 cus they had to do post-doctorate work. If we look at the pace AI is improving (I.e. harmonic AI, claude opus, 3.1 pro) by the time you finish ur doctorate 10 years from now you won’t be able to get a job. The people ik in academia are basically all using some form of AI to output 10x the work they were able to just a few years ago, meaning soon universities will just drop the less productive faculty and keep the ones who are 10x. I won’t be as bold to say all faculty positions will be gone, but it’ll be much much harder and there will probably be even more comp for an even smaller pool of PHD programs that currently exist.

Fair question but I think the AI part really depends on disipline a lot. I really don't expect physics research as a whole to dissapear because of it. Maybe some spesific research areas, but I will account for that when specializing.

I suppose I kinda want to have an inpact on the world, yk? Like actually contributing to something that could not be done by anyone else at that time. Such goals are kinda illogical given that I don't believe in any higher power or definitive morality, but I still have that desire. Maybe its early age indoctrination idk. It obviously also seems very fun, yet stressfull at times. Idk if I will go into academia though, it really depends on how good I am compared to my competition. I'm pretty sure I can land a research job after university but there is no point if I don't contribute to anything. There is saying like the top 10% of physicists do 90% of discoveries or something like that, so I will not go into research and waste my life for no reason lol. I mean I was depressed af this year so it kinda went to hell and I will start next year again, but I seem to be a lot better than my peers here in Norway anyway. The bachelors actually involves quite a bit of coding too, so I can possibly pivot into comp sci. I might do some electrical engineering in my free time, it seems fun. A physics degree is pretty useful for lots of purpouses and its a degree held by a lot of wealthy people, so its kind of a dream I can follow untill (if) I realize I am not good enough. Atp I haven't wasted any time because its still useful knowledge.

The pay part is also a big deal, and its why I need to study in the US for my phd, prefferably at a top tier university. If I am able to secure a job at a t20 I will make maybe 200k a year if I am lucky, at leas 100k a year. Thats more than a livable wage and makes life confortable. However work and such is kinda secondary for happiness imo. I think getting a wife and prefferbly children is the only way to actually get into a state of real happiness. Sure work can grant temporary satisfaction, but it will never give you fulfillment imo. Thats kinda why I looksmax and I'm obsessed with looks yk. Can't really get that if you are not good looking enough. I'm sure I can find someone, but not someone who I am both attracted to and that I like personality wise. The further you are from neurotypical the more important it becomes to maximize your looks. Holy holy long text. "dnr"

 

[orz]

Fair question but I think the AI part really depends on disipline a lot. I really don't expect physics research as a whole to dissapear because of it. Maybe some spesific research areas, but I will account for that when specializing.

yeah i dont know too much about physics so i won't comment on that but as a baseline i respect all physicists. definitely the highest ROI degree, in terms of creating high IQ people who actually know how to think properly.

I suppose I kinda want to have an inpact on the world, yk? Like actually contributing to something that could not be done by anyone else at that time. Such goals are kinda illogical given that I don't believe in any higher power or definitive morality, but I still have that desire. Maybe its early age indoctrination idk. It obviously also seems very fun, yet stressfull at times. Idk if I will go into academia though, it really depends on how good I am compared to my competition. I'm pretty sure I can land a research job after university but there is no point if I don't contribute to anything. There is saying like the top 10% of physicists do 90% of discoveries or something like that, so I will not go into research and waste my life for no reason lol. I mean I was depressed af this year so it kinda went to hell and I will start next year again, but I seem to be a lot better than my peers here in Norway anyway. The bachelors actually involves quite a bit of coding too, so I can possibly pivot into comp sci. I might do some electrical engineering in my free time, it seems fun. A physics degree is pretty useful for lots of purpouses and its a degree held by a lot of wealthy people, so its kind of a dream I can follow untill (if) I realize I am not good enough. Atp I haven't wasted any time because its still useful knowledge.

i understand what youre getting at, and i actually admire the fact that youre willing to put so much effort into something like this. not many people can say that about themselves. i will say tho, just from my own experience in academia/research, most papers (even the ones published in high tier journals) are written on basically meaningless findings that have almost no real-life application. idk if thats the best way to make an impact, and i also dont know if that applies to physics tho. but yeah physics is certainly still a good degree no matter what you end up pursuing.

The pay part is also a big deal, and its why I need to study in the US for my phd, prefferably at a top tier university. If I am able to secure a job at a t20 I will make maybe 200k a year if I am lucky, at leas 100k a year. Thats more than a livable wage and makes life confortable. However work and such is kinda secondary for happiness imo. I think getting a wife and prefferbly children is the only way to actually get into a state of real happiness. Sure work can grant temporary satisfaction, but it will never give you fulfillment imo. Thats kinda why I looksmax and I'm obsessed with looks yk. Can't really get that if you are not good looking enough. I'm sure I can find someone, but not someone who I am both attracted to and that I like personality wise. The further you are from neurotypical the more important it becomes to maximize your looks. Holy holy long text. "dnr"

i totally agree with this. i dont think ill ever be fulfilled without being respected by society via physical attributes, which ofc influences my ability to get a wife

 

[jeoyw9192]

I think it depends. For me an immigrant it doesn't really matter because I'll be over paying anyway but if you are an American try to go the best uni in your state. Out tution fee for certain unis is very high and don't try to take a loan. I have a co worker who went to uc berkley just for the brand name but is in mountains of debt. He does make good money now but it will take him like 6 years to be debt free.

Good chance bro should be able to pay that back soon though right I assume he got a high paying SWE typa job immediately after graduating