What decisions do you make when you realize your mortality?

Of course, desires should not be suppressed, but they can be controlled - so as not to suffer more in the future because of desires. I don't know about other religions, but I don't think it is a survival mechanism for my own religion. Actually, calling it a survival mechanism would be a narrow perspective. Because it is not just for survival.
Well, what desires are we talking about here? Some are perfectly healthy. Others are destructive. Of course, life itself is about maximizing the extent to which we can control our environment, which includes that which brings us pleasure (no matter how seemingly meaningless).

About religion, people who adhere to a particular faith tend to be happier than those who don't. It's a belief system, and people place a lot of energy and time into it. Religion was created by man to address uncertainty in the first place. It provides people with answers and a guideline by which to live their lives. People depend on religion. It's absolutely a survival mechanism, which isn't problematic by the way.
 
Well, what desires are we talking about here? Some are perfectly healthy. Others are destructive. Of course, life itself is about maximizing the extent to which we can control our environment, which includes that which brings us pleasure (no matter how seemingly meaningless).

About religion, people who adhere to a particular faith tend to be happier than those who don't. It's a belief system, and people place a lot of energy and time into it. Religion was created by man to address uncertainty in the first place. It provides people with answers and a guideline by which to live their lives. People depend on religion. It's absolutely a survival mechanism, which isn't problematic by the way.
Yes, it is a survival mechanism. It is also problematic in some ways. You know what else are problematic survival mechanisms? The 7 deadly sins.
 
"When you are truly awake, you will not care to judge those who are still asleep."

— Eckhart Tolle :blackpill:
 
Try to extend lifespan as much as possible, and health-span to not be a decrepit old man. Death may be the end , but that doesn’t make our lives, or our actions here for naught
It literally does mean our actions were for naught if u die and everyone who ever knew u and knew what you did dies too then its like u did nothing, especially when u consider you'll be around 80 years and the human race is hundreds of thousands of years old
 
It literally does mean our actions were for naught if u die and everyone who ever knew u and knew what you did dies too then its like u did nothing, especially when u consider you'll be around 80 years and the human race is hundreds of thousands of years old
Even if they worship you after you die, you won't feel it, my friend, rest assured :feelsgood:
 
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Write a will granddad
 
Even if they worship you after you die, you won't feel it, my friend, rest assured :feelsgood:
Niggas talkin bout rest in peace, I won't be resting i'll be a pile of bones 😂
 
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It literally does mean our actions were for naught if u die and everyone who ever knew u and knew what you did dies too then its like u did nothing, especially when u consider you'll be around 80 years and the human race is hundreds of thousands of years old
How are they meaningless? Because they come to a definite end? Is the breakfast you enjoyed this morning meaningless? It had a beginning, middle, and end. But it was enjoyable and served its purpose. Your pancakes didn’t need to then proceed to some other dimension for it to have been meaningful. Depressed Nihilist fucks can’t accept reality and all its joys unless they sprinkle in some supernaturalism cope
 
Our adolescent brothers live as if they will never die, aiming to ascend and become chads, hopping from party to party, from woman to woman. But what will happen when they realize they will die one day? How sensible is it to strive for worldly things when death is inevitable? I am curious about your thoughts.
keep on going till i die
 
How are they meaningless? Because they come to a definite end? Is the breakfast you enjoyed this morning meaningless?
I mean its just gonna get shitted out and im gonna need another breakfast tomorrow so yeah, momentary enjoyment doesn't equal meaning
It had a beginning, middle, and end. But it was enjoyable and served its purpose.
It served its purpose temporarily to me whilst I needed it but that doesn't mean it was meaningful in the long term when you just crap it out your pants and get hungry again
Your pancakes didn’t need to then proceed to some other dimension for it to have been meaningful.
You eat breakfast to stay alive but I was asking about the purpose that life itself serves so two different things and you just make them the same jfl

Depressed Nihilist fucks can’t accept reality and all its joys unless they sprinkle in some supernaturalism cope
Right here u assume that life is like having enjoyable pancakes all the time and you ignore the suffering, pain and struggle which makes up 70-99% of it depending on the circumstances u were born in
 
I mean its just gonna get shitted out and im gonna need another breakfast tomorrow so yeah, momentary enjoyment doesn't equal meaning

It served its purpose temporarily to me whilst I needed it but that doesn't mean it was meaningful in the long term when you just crap it out your pants and get hungry again

You eat breakfast to stay alive but I was asking about the purpose that life itself serves so two different things and you just make them the same jfl


Right here u assume that life is like having enjoyable pancakes all the time and you ignore the suffering, pain and struggle which makes up 70-99% of it depending on the circumstances u were born in
The fact that you need more sustenance, means you get to continuously enjoy meals until you pass. What is meaning anyways? Are you using the term in the colloquial sense where, to be meaningful, an act must last ad infinitum? But if that be so, then there’s nothing wrong with a burglar burglarizing your home, because eventually both you and them will pass, and no one will remember either of you. But, what you do in this life DOES matter. Even the Buddha says so in the Pali Nikayas. I don’t mean to ignore the suffering that exists in reality, but I won’t wash over the happiness and joy that are possible on this Earth either. You are right to say that these things do depend on circumstance, but i’m assuming most if not everyone on this forum is in a good enough place to not be on the brink of death. Furthermore, as a species we’ve seen vast improvements to the collective quality of life. To say suffering accounts for 70%+ of conscious experience is erroneous
 
You are right to say that these things do depend on circumstance, but i’m assuming most if not everyone on this forum is in a good enough place to not be on the brink of death. Furthermore, as a species we’ve seen vast improvements to the collective quality of life. To say suffering accounts for 70%+ of conscious experience is erroneous
I know it's ur last point but I wanted to answer it first cus it was the most wack

Just cus ur not on the bring of death dying of Lukemia doesnt mean ur not suffering

Even in 2025 billions of humans suffer across the world in war, poverty, disease, hunger, etc and even in the 1st world ppl deal with stress, anxiety, depression and existential dread etc

Plus suffering is built into life as we are all guaranteed to watch our whole families die and then grow old and decay and die ourself

Suffering is guaranteed, pleasure is only for the lucky few
The fact that you need more sustenance, means you get to continuously enjoy meals until you pass. What is meaning anyways? Are you using the term in the colloquial sense where, to be meaningful, an act must last ad infinitum? But if that be so, then there’s nothing wrong with a burglar burglarizing your home, because eventually both you and them will pass, and no one will remember either of you. But, what you do in this life DOES matter.
1. Needing food is just their for survival but it doesn't give meaning to ur life

2. The burglary argument makes u contradict urself, u say life has meaning that doesn't need to be permanent but then you use morality to argue that actions still matter cus in that case the concepts of morality are also temporary human ideas and if nothing lasts forever then burglary also don't matter

the Buddha says so in the Pali Nikayas
Buddha says that life is suffering and dissatisfaction and that clinging to life and trying to give it meaning (in many different ways) actually causes more suffering, most of the point of Buddhism is just about freeing yourself from these illusions ur trying to convince me of jfl

Taking life seriously and saying it is meaningful actually makes it worse, which is one of Buddhas main points
 
I know it's ur last point but I wanted to answer it first cus it was the most wack

Just cus ur not on the bring of death dying of Lukemia doesnt mean ur not suffering

Even in 2025 billions of humans suffer across the world in war, poverty, disease, hunger, etc and even in the 1st world ppl deal with stress, anxiety, depression and existential dread etc

Plus suffering is built into life as we are all guaranteed to watch our whole families die and then grow old and decay and die ourself

Suffering is guaranteed, pleasure is only for the lucky few

1. Needing food is just their for survival but it doesn't give meaning to ur life

2. The burglary argument makes u contradict urself, u say life has meaning that doesn't need to be permanent but then you use morality to argue that actions still matter cus in that case the concepts of morality are also temporary human ideas and if nothing lasts forever then burglary also don't matter


Buddha says that life is suffering and dissatisfaction and that clinging to life and trying to give it meaning (in many different ways) actually causes more suffering, most of the point of Buddhism is just about freeing yourself from these illusions ur trying to convince me of jfl

Taking life seriously and saying it is meaningful actually makes it worse, which is one of Buddhas main points
My last point wasn’t wack, because my last point wasn’t that not being on the brink of death does not mean one is not suffering.

I said I bet most people on this forum are not on the brink of death, so they’re better off then many people who would fall under the conditions you highlighted (poverty, wars, famines, diseases etc.) but these are primarily encountered in undeveloped countries

Certainly many people on this site experience suffering as it is a blackpill/incel adjacent forum. There’s a shit ton of emotional turmoil on here, and I think justifiably so. Getting rejected, treated badly, and missing out on certain things because you look ugly sucks

But, the human condition has certainly improved. And while we may have to watch our friends and family pass, which can be a source of emotional turmoil and make one despondent, that still doesn’t detract from the joy and happiness one may experience in life

I used the burglar argument because those who equate life with meaninglessness due to finality fail to see that what one does now, in this present life, matters, because it affects yourself and your loved ones. Even if it ends eventually, it still mattered in the moment. The burglar can rob and even kill you, but that certainly matters and has weight to it even if the burglar’s actions eventually end (he leaves your home with your valuables, and you die) that’s very impactful

And I primarily understand Buddhism from the Theravada tradition, i’m not sure which sect, if any, that you follow. I think Buddhism is cool, but in the Pali canon, the Buddha never says that life itself is suffering, rather that there is suffering present. He also stresses the importance of actions in the present life because of their consequences, though he stresses the importance of actions for the goal of achieving nibbana (nirvana) but he says that actions in this present life matter none the less. He claimed that those Indian philosophers at the time who claimed actions didn’t matter whatsoever where subscribed to one extremist view which he categorized as “wrong view”
 
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Our adolescent brothers live as if they will never die, aiming to ascend and become chads, hopping from party to party, from woman to woman. But what will happen when they realize they will die one day? How sensible is it to strive for worldly things when death is inevitable? I am curious about your thoughts.
Death, a necessary end, will come when it will come. Whatever I do in the interim does not matter. All the philosophy of the world is not gonna prepare me for even a toothache let alone death. I will writhe in pain and fear and agony when the time comes just like nature intended. I intend to feel unimaginable horror looking death in the eye when the time comes. For now, we chill.
 
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Our adolescent brothers live as if they will never die, aiming to ascend and become chads, hopping from party to party, from woman to woman. But what will happen when they realize they will die one day? How sensible is it to strive for worldly things when death is inevitable? I am curious about your thoughts.
I think to die a real death as to die as if death is not the end but rather a continuation of life. In order to continue you must let go of this world to pass onto the next. looks maxing is antithetical to this.
 
Our adolescent brothers live as if they will never die, aiming to ascend and become chads, hopping from party to party, from woman to woman. But what will happen when they realize they will die one day? How sensible is it to strive for worldly things when death is inevitable? I am curious about your thoughts.
you're only going to exist for a blink of a cosmic eye, try not being a pussy
 

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