What do I do after 2 unsuccessful jaw surgeries? Round 3?

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I've had 2 jaw surgeries with genio in the past year 2 fix recession and asymmetry. 11 weeks post op the 2nd I am still noticeably under advanced - I genuinely think it's over for me. Even if I get a 3rd which would take a year I'd still need rhinoplasty. There is no light
 
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It's honestly too cooked to show. I had down grafting the second time bc the blue pilled fucked surgeon suggested it and it threw off my facial thirds and side profile projection. Im still pretty swollen so there is some hope but to me its apparent I am still sub 5.
 
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Why Turkey. I need actual good surgeons, money isn't an issue. If the third fails I will actually kill myself not joking
If no money issue, i suggest finding surgeons with a good reputation hailing from a reputable hospital for the surgery's you want to get done. As to where to find them, I'm confuzzled.
 
Bluepilled maxillofacial surgeons genuinely piss me tf off
 
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I've had 2 jaw surgeries with genio in the past year 2 fix recession and asymmetry. 11 weeks post op the 2nd I am still noticeably under advanced - I genuinely think it's over for me. Even if I get a 3rd which would take a year I'd still need rhinoplasty. There is no light
You reincarnate wtf 2 botches and you wanna go for round 3 wtf is this "3rd times the charm" ovER nevER evER leave the basement
 
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idk what any of that incel terminology means. And yes that is the case, or autism
Brutal,ill tell you what travel to another country a super underdeveloped one and life the rest of your life happily with your millions and money hungry wife and stepkids
 
Yeah thats not the end goal. The end goal is to mog. You wouldn't get it
2 botches,autistic,so ugly millions can't fix it.YOU stated these things there js no more mog end goal try to look like an average guy settle for an average woman regardless of ur type blend in with society and disappear
 
why? I feel like jaw surgery is better bc it gives you health benefits too, but this guy seemed to get unlucky so idk.
It might be better for health but he wanted it for cosmetic reasons so jaw implants are better for that
 
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I don’t get it what did the surgeon do wrong , under advancement is no a botch
 
I don’t get it what did the surgeon do wrong , under advancement is no a botch
asymmetric genio relapsed mandible on the right side and under advanced after the first surgery. He did a bone shaving to fix and it didn't work just made my chin narrower.... went through second full revision to fix everything and I'm still under advanced and facial thirds and cooked.
 
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asymmetric genio relapsed mandible on the right side and under advanced after the first surgery. He did a bone shaving to fix and it didn't work just made my chin narrower.... went through second full revision to fix everything and I'm still under advanced and facial thirds and cooked.
Is the surgeon unexperienced ? This shouldn’t have happened
 
Is the surgeon unexperienced ? This shouldn’t have happened
He has a good reputation I suspect a resident performed my first surgery without me knowing and then covered up the issues with a quick fix that didn't fix anything. The second surgery is structurally fine so far but aesthetically not good
 
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He has a good reputation I suspect a resident performed my first surgery without me knowing and then covered up the issues with a quick fix that didn't fix anything. The second surgery is structurally fine so far but aesthetically not good
What advice would u give to someone who’s gonna do same procedures as you
 
What advice would u give to someone who’s gonna do same procedures as you
Question everything the surgeon suggests, get multiple opinions and know what you want, sounds weird but don't trust what the surgeon thinks is best, preferably use custom plates/fixation so they cant deviate off the plan. Anything under 5mm/10mm maxilla/mandible is mostly likely under advanced. Try to go to a blackpilled surgeon if you can but there are very few of those if you're in the US like I am.

Also I didn't do this surgery to looksmax at first so I didn't ask any questions or know anything about the movements - I just needed the surgery bc my ortho suggested it. The botched surgery is what introduced me to looksmaxxing and jaw surgery movements so I could try to have a successful second surgery but I fucked up a second time by trusting the surgeon. DO NOT blindly trust the surgeons
 
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Question everything the surgeon suggests, get multiple opinions and know what you want, sounds weird but don't trust what the surgeon thinks is best, preferably use custom plates/fixation so they cant deviate off the plan. Anything under 5mm/10mm maxilla/mandible is mostly likely under advanced. Try to go to a blackpilled surgeon if you can but there are very few of those if you're in the US like I am.

Also I didn't do this surgery to looksmax at first so I didn't ask any questions or know anything about the movements - I just needed the surgery bc my ortho suggested it. The botched surgery is what introduced me to looksmaxxing and jaw surgery movements so I could try to have a successful second surgery but I fucked up a second time by trusting the surgeon. DO NOT blindly trust the surgeons
Thanks man that’s really helpful and i hope things go better for you , i already picked the surgeon who’s gonna perform on me , i’m gonna get braces soon to “worsen my overbite” to get as much movement as possible from bsso , as for the genio i’ll convince the surgeon to do about 8mm and i’ll show him pictures of the goat gandhi as reference , how does this sound ?
 
Thanks man that’s really helpful and i hope things go better for you , i already picked the surgeon who’s gonna perform on me , i’m gonna get braces soon to “worsen my overbite” to get as much movement as possible from bsso , as for the genio i’ll convince the surgeon to do about 8mm and i’ll show him pictures of the goat gandhi as reference , how does this sound ?
sure
 
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