What having a jew orthodontist does to a mf

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The jew in question advized my parents to get me a herbst appliance instead of bimax yes it saved my jaw from being a recessed subhuman but stunted and recessed my maxilla i ve been mewing for like 4 ye and 3 months now and its still inclined nothing changed only my lower maxilla moved a bit and my cheekboens got prominent
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The jew in question advized my parents to get me a herbst appliance instead of bimax yes it saved my jaw from being a recessed subhuman but stunted and recessed my maxilla i ve been mewing for like 4 ye and 3 months now and its still inclined nothing changed only my lower maxilla moved a bit and my cheekboens got prominent View attachment 2726397View attachment 2726400View attachment 2726404View attachment 2726405
which is the after, and ya the herbst is terrible, similar to elastic bands.
Research on the herbst shows an average of 4mm worth of stunted maxilla growth, and little to no growth of the mandible, mostly its repositioned forward.
 
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which is the after, and ya the herbst is terrible, similar to elastic bands.
Research on the herbst shows an average of 4mm worth of stunted maxilla growth, and little to no growth of the mandible, mostly its repositioned forward.
thanks to my adhd laziness i wasnt wearign these shitty bands at all and it save the further damage
 
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which is the after, and ya the herbst is terrible, similar to elastic bands.
Research on the herbst shows an average of 4mm worth of stunted maxilla growth, and little to no growth of the mandible, mostly its repositioned forward.
none is i dont havea before and after but yo ucan see taht somethings abnormal abotu my maxilla
 
none is but you can see that something is abnormal about my maxilla
 
none is i dont havea before and after but yo ucan see taht somethings abnormal abotu my maxilla
i agree, i can see your face is sort of flat looking. I feel like a lf3 would ascend you. Maybe try doing an MSE+Facemask, some people who execute it well get good results.
 
i agree, i can see your face is sort of flat looking. I feel like a lf3 would ascend you. Maybe try doing an MSE+Facemask, some people who execute it well get good results.
i had mse my palete is fine its pretty wide i have a 10 teeth smile lf3 would save anyone besides soem genetic abnormalities lol also fagga/facemask is dangerous jewhacks had to do a surgery beacasue of this
 
i had mse my palete is fine its pretty wide i have a 10 teeth smile lf3
I mean get mse just for hte protraction not for expansion

lf3 would save anyone besides soem genetic abnormalities
no lf3 is generally overrated on this site and people who have gotten it done tend to be underwhelmed as far as my research on jawsurgery forums. Thing is it does nothing for your vertical growth and cw roatated maxilla which is most of what makes someone ugly. In your case though your only issue appears to be it being set back thus why i suggested it.

fagga/facemask is dangerous jewhacks had to do a surgery beacasue of this
his issue was with fagga due to poor execution of the provider more than the applience or ideas themselves. plenty of people have done fagga and not had damage of that level (note that EVERY orthodontic practice will have some damaging effect on teeth its all about magnitiude). He hardly did facemask...
 
Thanks god I‘m getting a Trimax soon
 
this is the most severely recessed maxilla I have ever seen

you need lefort 9000 with 45cm of advancement, plus 30 degrees of ccw rotation MINIMUM if you want to ascend to ltn
 
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this is the most severely recessed maxilla I have ever seen

you need lefort 9000 with 45cm of advancement, plus 30 degrees of ccw rotation MINIMUM if you want to ascend to ltn
cant make a thread here widhout indian/shithole dweller niggers writing bs like this
 
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cant make a thread here widhout indian/shithole dweller niggers writing bs like this
you also look like a woman, start injecting T
 
i agree, i can see your face is sort of flat looking. I feel like a lf3 would ascend you. Maybe try doing an MSE+Facemask, some people who execute it well get good results.
No one in the gods existence is doing lf3
 
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No one in the gods existence is doing lf3
some are but hard to find and expensive. hopefully @RealSurgerymax innovates lf3 and makes it a cosmetically viable surgery
 
some are but hard to find and expensive. hopefully @RealSurgerymax innovates lf3 and makes it a cosmetically viable surgery
Even if they would isn’t lefort III close to six figures?
 
Even if they would isn’t lefort III close to six figures?
im not sure but i wouldn't be surprised if the few surgeons who offer true lf3 ask around that.
 
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giant,do i need lefort or any other procedure or i am mostly fine?
No you don’t need LeFort iii - not even a candidate

You could have other procedures to improve your appearance but you don’t NEED them.
 
It's over once op discovers lighting.
 
wouldnt he become better looking with a lf3 double jaw like your pictures?
I don’t think his eye projection allows for LF3. If he gets scans we will professionally assess with dr Celal.
 
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I mean get mse just for hte protraction not for expansion


no lf3 is generally overrated on this site and people who have gotten it done tend to be underwhelmed as far as my research on jawsurgery forums. Thing is it does nothing for your vertical growth and cw roatated maxilla which is most of what makes someone ugly. In your case though your only issue appears to be it being set back thus why i suggested it.


his issue was with fagga due to poor execution of the provider more than the applience or ideas themselves. plenty of people have done fagga and not had damage of that level (note that EVERY orthodontic practice will have some damaging effect on teeth its all about magnitiude). He hardly did facemask...
U think lefort II CCW rotation is better ?
 
I don’t think his eye projection allows for LF3. If he gets scans we will professionally assess with dr Celal.
Yo @RealSurgerymax what your opinion on zso to widen face here’s example of eppley
Can u do zso and then obo ?


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I don’t think his eye projection allows for LF3. If he gets scans we will professionally assess with dr Celal.
What’s the max amount of mm u can do with lefort III right now
 
U think lefort II CCW rotation is better ?
probably but I have never seen it be done so idk. I have seen a modified lf3 ccw which did not really look very good. thats it.
 
which is the after, and ya the herbst is terrible, similar to elastic bands.
Research on the herbst shows an average of 4mm worth of stunted maxilla growth, and little to no growth of the mandible, mostly its repositioned forward.
Opinioin on getting wisdom tooth removed? Will it fuck up anything in my face? Im 17,5
 
my bird brother 🥰👉👈
 
I don't get it. Did you have an overbite before
You look better, more orthognathic
 
Opinioin on getting wisdom tooth removed? Will it fuck up anything in my face? Im 17,5
Well lets reason this through:

Problem: Wisdom teeth not coming in properly due to small jaws

1. Solution 1: Getting your wisdom teeth removed will cost money.
2. Solution 2: Increasing tongue space via expansion costs money.
3. Removing wisdom teeth will either have no negative cosmetic and health effect, or will have negative cosmetic and health effects.
4. Palate expansion will either have no cosmetic and health effect, or a positive cosmetic and health effect.
5. Palate expansion solves your wisdom tooth issue (they come in properly)

So if you had to choose between those 2 options which one would you choose? (Assuming both have similar insurance coverage which usually they both do)

 
Well lets reason this through:

Problem: Wisdom teeth not coming in properly due to small jaws

1. Solution 1: Getting your wisdom teeth removed will cost money.
2. Solution 2: Increasing tongue space via expansion costs money.
3. Removing wisdom teeth will either have no negative cosmetic and health effect, or will have negative cosmetic and health effects.
4. Palate expansion will either have no cosmetic and health effect, or a positive cosmetic and health effect.
5. Palate expansion solves your wisdom tooth issue (they come in properly)

So if you had to choose between those 2 options which one would you choose? (Assuming both have similar insurance coverage which usually they both do)


Expansion. Here is my xray what do you think?
 

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i agree, i can see your face is sort of flat looking. I feel like a lf3 would ascend you. Maybe try doing an MSE+Facemask, some people who execute it well get good results.
Leforts are a MEME he should just get Midface implants.
 

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