what is the best surgery available for reducing upper eyelid exposure?

[tansel]

fat grafting probably won’t be an option for me since i’m too lean & the fat wouldn’t survive, so maybe upper bleph? any insight would be appreciated.

 

[K.German Psycho]

i’m too lean & the fat wouldn’t survive

dumbest shit i heard today. where do u get that info from?

 

[muhammad18347]

dumbest shit i heard today. where do u get that info from?

Nigga got it from his ass

 

[svarddre]

Implants and bleph

 

[tansel]

dumbest shit i heard today. where do u get that info from?

a plastic surgeon in beverly hills said it to me when i went for a consultation in january

 

[tansel]

Implants and bleph

supra implants arent available in my country, would upper bleph be enough?

 

[tansel]

Nigga got it from his ass

wrong

 

[muhammad18347]

wrong

1 month on the fourm and already has more posts than me

 

[K.German Psycho]

wrong

that surgeon talked shit, i got fatgrafting, i am lean, even lost weight after surgery cause i thought i got overfilled, but stilled retained a ton of fat. Know people who even had less fat to begin with, still great retention

 

[tansel]

that surgeon talked shit, i got fatgrafting, i am lean, even lost weight after surgery cause i thought i go overfilled, but stilled retained a ton of fat.

whats ur body fat percentage?

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

dumbest shit i heard today. where do u get that info from?

If your below like 12% body fat literally every surgeon will tell you fat grafting will fail... since you know it will fail...

that surgeon talked shit, i got fatgrafting, i am lean, even lost weight after surgery cause i thought i got overfilled, but stilled retained a ton of fat. Know people who even had less fat to begin with, still great retention

Dam extremely scientific with the no fucking measurements and sample size of 1...

 

[tansel]

If your below like 12% body fat literally every surgeon will tell you fat grafting will fail... since you know it will fail...


Dam extremely scientific with the no fucking measurements and sample size of 1...

thank you man.. i’m 11% body fat, i already knew it would fail. would you suggest upper bleph for uue?

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

Just for clarity you can still do fat grafting at 15% body fat and be fine. You can in fact have abs at 15%. You need to be pretty shredded before its an issue.

 

[tansel]

Just for clarity you can still do fat grafting at 15% body fat and be fine. You can in fact have abs at 15%. You need to be pretty shredded before its an issue.

yeah but i’m 11% body fat not 15%, do you think an upper bleph is the best available option for me for uue?

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

thank you man.. i’m 11% body fat, i already knew it would fail. would you suggest upper bleph for uue?

An upper bleth would remove skin, which for men is not ideal.

Generally gaining weight before fat grafting isn't an amazing idea. But imo for men who want fat grafting with very low body fat, I do believe that's the exception. So i'd really recommend just eating pizza or whatever and poping up to 15% and then get grafting. It should be fine at that bf level.

 

[tansel]

i mean i don’t really want to ruin my health indicators & gain weight only for fat grafting, is fat grafting & supra implants the only viable options for men?

 

[async]

If your below like 12% body fat literally every surgeon will tell you fat grafting will fail... since you know it will fail...


Dam extremely scientific with the no fucking measurements and sample size of 1...

Can you expand on this?

 

[K.German Psycho]

If your below like 12% body fat literally every surgeon will tell you fat grafting will fail... since you know it will fail...


Dam extremely scientific with the no fucking measurements and sample size of 1...

ofc when u have almost zero fat to harvest from u cant graft. the fat needs to come from somewhere. Visible Sixpack is no problem if u have some fat to harvest from ur lower back. Its genetic tho not exactly about the exact bf percentage

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

i mean i don’t really want to ruin my health indicators & gain weight only for fat grafting, is fat grafting & supra implants the only viable options for men?

I don’t think there a lot of other options, I know Steven has talked about doing a ligament releases. But the general goal on org has been to increase hooding, not decrease it.

Can you expand on this?

Not sure what you’re looking for. Being super low body fat makes finding fat more difficult to transplant and it means less take rate. It doesn’t literally mean not a single fat cell will survive it means that the risk, cost ect is not going to produce a significant enough result to justify it.

Same as true with calorie deficit. If you run a deficit after the transfer, it’s not like every transplanted fat cell dies. It’s just a much worse tale rate then has you not done it(obvi the larger the deficit the more impact.) why the fuck would you have surgery and then set it up to have a dog shit outcome.

It’s the same with renuva it’s a good product but it’s not really for men with ultra low bodyfat since it’s not really going to work well. Agian it’s not absolutely it’ll have some kind of positive effect it’s just a poor pay off vs a normal patient.

 

[tansel]

I don’t think there a lot of other options, I know Steven has talked about doing a ligament releases. But the general goal on org has been to increase hooding, not decrease it.


Not sure what you’re looking for. Being super low body fat makes finding fat more difficult to transplant and it means less take rate. It doesn’t literally mean not a single fat cell will survive it means that the risk, cost ect is not going to produce a significant enough result to justify it.

Same as true with calorie deficit. If you run a deficit after the transfer, it’s not like every transplanted fat cell dies. It’s just a much worse tale rate then has you not done it(obvi the larger the deficit the more impact.) why the fuck would you have surgery and then set it up to have a dog shit outcome.

It’s the same with renuva it’s a good product but it’s not really for men with ultra low bodyfat since it’s not really going to work well. Agian it’s not absolutely it’ll have some kind of positive effect it’s just a poor pay off vs a normal patient.

damn alright, thank you. & if it’s not too much trouble can i ask why upper bleph isn’t ideal for men?

 

[shedontluv-U]

fat grafting probably won’t be an option for me since i’m too lean & the fat wouldn’t survive, so maybe upper bleph? any insight would be appreciated.

Ptosis or a thing with the Supra might
Like Supra implant

 

[shedontluv-U]

dumbest shit i heard today. where do u get that info from?

Why are you just negativity
We don’t need fag like you in this forum

 

[tansel]

Ptosis or a thing with the Supra might
Like Supra implant

yeah but a custom supra implant is like 15,000$, i think i might just do upper bleph

 

[shedontluv-U]

yeah but a custom supra implant is like 15,000$, i think i might just do upper bleph

What do you mean uee fat graft won’t works

The issue might be your Supra because the only thing who can negate uee fix by fat graft is the lack of Supra who will "engendre" a hooding

 

[tansel]

What do you mean use fat graft won’t works

The issue might be your Supra because the only thing who can negate uee fix by fat graft is the lack of Supra who will make a hooding

yeah but maybe they can remove some of the upper eyelid skin with a blepharoplasty.

the fat during fat grafting typically doesn’t survive when you’re lean so it’s not an option for me

 

[shedontluv-U]

yeah but maybe they can remove some of the upper eyelid skin with a blepharoplasty.

the fat during fat grafting typically doesn’t survive when you’re lean so it’s not an option for me

First I don’t think upperbleph is the way to go removing skin don’t fix a uee.

I think what you want is a ptosis

And yes fat graft work if you lean you can manage to ignore a big part of the Resorbtion easily but the rate will never be 100%.

And the fat will change dépend of your bf too that why you can go while being
Really low bf and yes

 

[shedontluv-U]

yeah but maybe they can remove some of the upper eyelid skin with a blepharoplasty.

the fat during fat grafting typically doesn’t survive when you’re lean so it’s not an option for me

I wanna say not potsisbnormal but ptosis repair

 

[tansel]

I wanna say not potsisbnormal but ptosis repair

don’t you have to have ptosis to get ptosis repair though?

 

[Firstname.Lastname]

don’t you have to have ptosis to get ptosis repair though?

Ofc you do or your eyes won’t be able to close properly anymore and you’ll end up with chronic dry eye or much worse.

 

[Adee]

fat grafting probably won’t be an option for me since i’m too lean & the fat wouldn’t survive, so maybe upper bleph? any insight would be appreciated.

Best? Saddle supraorbital implants

 

[LackEmpathyTherefor]

I don’t think there a lot of other options, I know Steven has talked about doing a ligament releases. But the general goal on org has been to increase hooding, not decrease it.


Not sure what you’re looking for. Being super low body fat makes finding fat more difficult to transplant and it means less take rate. It doesn’t literally mean not a single fat cell will survive it means that the risk, cost ect is not going to produce a significant enough result to justify it.

Same as true with calorie deficit. If you run a deficit after the transfer, it’s not like every transplanted fat cell dies. It’s just a much worse tale rate then has you not done it(obvi the larger the deficit the more impact.) why the fuck would you have surgery and then set it up to have a dog shit outcome.

It’s the same with renuva it’s a good product but it’s not really for men with ultra low bodyfat since it’s not really going to work well. Agian it’s not absolutely it’ll have some kind of positive effect it’s just a poor pay off vs a normal patient.

At 12% bf you can still find enough fat to transfer maybe on lower back for example it’s the most stubborn fat for most people.
Then what you inject is actually the most stubborn fat of your body so in theory it’ll retain even more than the surface easy to lose layer of adipose tissue at 15-20%.

Just some thoughts

 

[tansel]

Best? Saddle supraorbital implants

thats not really realistic for me lol but thanks

 

[Adee]

thats not really realistic for me lol but thanks

There is no other solution
Upper bleph? Removal of the soft tissue - excess skin and fat removal / fat injection.
How did you come up with the idea of reducing uee with blepharo

 

[tansel]

There is no other solution
Upper bleph? Removal of the soft tissue - excess skin and fat removal / fat injection.
How did you come up with the idea of reducing uee with blepharo

i read it on some old threads on the forum, would you not recommend it?

 

[shedontluv-U]

don’t you have to have ptosis to get ptosis repair though?

Im talking the one who change the muscle of your brows

With this logic tell the od sucker you need TED to have OD

 

[damnit]

upper eyelid fillers work great if its done by a good aesthetician , check out drgalmd on instagram , he achieves good hooding even on the outer region of the supras. I have done uue fillers in the balkans since october 2024 and it hasn't dissolved yet , but still it doesn't give me full hooding but a drastic improvement since I had too much uue .

 

[tansel]

upper eyelid fillers work great if its done by a good aesthetician , check out drgalmd on instagram , he achieves good hooding even on the outer region of the supras. I have done uue fillers in the balkans since october 2024 and it hasn't dissolved yet , but still it doesn't give me full hooding but a drastic improvement since I had too much uue .

i would be way too scared to do uue filler, what if you go blind or something?

 

[damnit]

i would be way too scared to do uue filler, what if you go blind or something?

taban does it , gal aharonov does it and especially gal has very good results . In Europe Dr Joshua based in London does it (I had a convo dm insta with joshua where i stated i would like full hooded eyes and he said it might not possible without ptosis surgery since my eyes droop to much ). The risks are too low if you are trained. But I would assume the three of them are conservative on the volume applied unless you specifically tell them to do full hooding not just reducing UUE. A local orthodontist did mine who just attended some trainings in Belgrade, Serbia. She wasnt even an eye related aesthetican and it went ok for a cheap 150 euro.

 

[tansel]

taban does it , gal aharonov does it and especially gal has very good results . In Europe Dr Joshua based in London does it (I had a convo dm insta with joshua where i stated i would like full hooded eyes and he said it might not possible without ptosis surgery since my eyes droop to much ). The risks are too low if you are trained. But I would assume the three of them are conservative on the volume applied unless you specifically tell them to do full hooding not just reducing UUE. A local orthodontist did mine who just attended some trainings in Belgrade, Serbia. She wasnt even an eye related aesthetican and it went ok for a cheap 150 euro.

wow. gal aharanov is like 20 minutes away from me. i’ll definitely check him out. thanks

 

[tansel]

At 12% bf you can still find enough fat to transfer maybe on lower back for example it’s the most stubborn fat for most people.
Then what you inject is actually the most stubborn fat of your body so in theory it’ll retain even more than the surface easy to lose layer of adipose tissue at 15-20%.

Just some thoughts

great, thank you

 

[Anakin_10k]

fat grafting probably won’t be an option for me since i’m too lean & the fat wouldn’t survive, so maybe upper bleph? any insight would be appreciated.

Lol the upper and under eye fat difference between lean and fat person is almost non existent

 

[tansel]

Lol the upper and under eye fat difference between lean and fat person is almost non existent

? what does this have to do with transferring fat?

 

[Anakin_10k]

? what does this have to do with transferring fat?

IM talking abt the fact that u are too lean and the fat would disappear which is completely false unless ur 3% bf

 

[tansel]

IM talking abt the fact that u are too lean and the fat would disappear which is completely false unless ur 3% bf

so you would suggest fat grafting for the upper eyelids? & do you believe it can reduce uue?

 

[Anakin_10k]

so you would suggest fat grafting for the upper eyelids? & do you believe it can reduce uue?

it could resolve it if u alr have low and compact supra orbitals bones but if have bad supras a browridge or supra implant should resolve it

 

[tansel]

it could resolve it if u alr have low and compact supra orbitals bones but if have bad supras a browridge or supra implant should resolve it

so just to make sure if someone has bad supras & they do upper eyelid fat grafting they would still have uue afterwards?

 

[Anakin_10k]

so just to make sure if someone has bad supras & they do upper eyelid fat grafting they would still have uue afterwards?

Yes they would have uee but less noticable cuz the eyelid would be thicker but the fat be enough low set to cover the upper eyelid

 

[try2beme]

Eye surgery is easily the riskiest and Nobodh rly cares about it unless they’re bulging

 

[tansel]

Yes they would have uee but less noticable cuz the eyelid would be thicker but the fat be enough low set to cover the upper eyelid

thank u for the help. i would definitely be doing upper eyelid grafting then.

 

[tansel]

Eye surgery is easily the riskiest and Nobodh rly cares about it unless they’re bulging

yeah but i have a lot of $ saved up & want to do everything to ascend