what is TOO much forward growth?

[LILMAXILLA]

Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

As much as possible (1-2cm)

 

[Deleted member 10709]

 

[LILMAXILLA]

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I forgot to specify.

Has anyone ever seen an example of too much forward growth, in HUMANS (without a syndrome)?

 

[Mongrelcel]

I think there can be only "too much" forward growth in relation to your browridge and jaw

 

[Mongrelcel]

I forgot to specify.

Has anyone ever seen an example of too much forward growth, in HUMANS (without a syndrome)?

you also need to specify that youre talking abotu whites
many examples of too much forward growth in negroes

 

[_Alessandr97ACC_]

Nicki Minaj

 

[LILMAXILLA]

you also need to specify that youre talking abotu whites
many examples of too much forward growth in negroes

Well if I had to specify I would say whites. But I feel like the examples of black people that you are thinking of are not the type of excessive forward growth I thinking of. I believe that those are just examples of the Lower bit of maxilla and upper bit of mandible being too forward grown compared to the rest of the maxilla and mandible.

 

[Deleted member 11748]

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looks really cool to me

 

[LILMAXILLA]

Nicki Minaj
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Good find. That is some very extreme forward growth. Crazy how it still looks aesthetic. Makes me think that 99.9% of people would benefit aesthetically from lefort 3 (not her).

 

[Babyblackcarrot]

 

[AcneScars]

 

[LILMAXILLA]

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Again I'm talking about overall forward growth (including zygos midface, nose etc...), not people with bimaxillary protrusion...

 

[AcneScars]

Again I'm talking about overall forward growth (including zygos midface, nose etc...), not people with bimaxillary protrusion...

Oh ok got it

 

[Deleted member 7029]

No such thing as long as other features keep up with it

 

[fras]

 

[spark]

Nicki Minaj
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looks shopped

 

[_Alessandr97ACC_]

looks shopped
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Nope, I don't think so.
There isn't many pics of her side profile but even though it's a weird angle you can still tell her jaw is forward grown. Black people tend to have a similar side profile, but she happens to be more developed than the average black person.

 

[mortis]

I cum instantly when I see a forward grown face on a foid, there is no too much forward growth for me tbh the more the better

 

[Babushkacatlady]

No such thing. Unless you're talking about surgery results which can look unnatural because of how unpredictable soft tissue response is and large movements in unnatural directions.
Or if there is too much downward growth with the forward growth (ape-like appearance).
Or some kind of hormonal excess like acromegaly.
Africans don't grow much more forward than the rest they just genetically have thicker soft tissue lips and their adaptation to malocclusion is usually bimaxillary (really bi-dental) protrusion.
The human jaws and cranial base have a genetic set point of ideal functional and aesthetic growth, size, shape, and position. Most people deviate from this due to changes in muscular postures, function, diet, and possibly epigenome.

 

[Deleted member 8080]

Nicki Minaj
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Over for her horseface jfl

 

[Deleted member 756]

No such thing

 

[everythingisacope]

Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.

ye there is such thing as too much forward growth, looks uncanny since the forehead remains the same

 

[LILMAXILLA]

ye there is such thing as too much forward growth, looks uncanny since the forehead remains the same

Yes obviously there is a limit in theory, but I'm wondering if people can realistically reach that limit. Like have you ever seen a picture of someone with too much forward growth? Like to the point where it failio'd them? I haven't. That nicki minaj picture someone posted was the most forward grown example I have seen, and imo it was still a pretty good side profile aesthetically (top 10%).

I'm asking all of this from the point of view of someone interested in le fort 3. Should a normie be worried about going for the max advancement possible (2cm let's say)? This is all assuming we ignore health risks and bad soft tissue outcome risks. I would guess no, but I'm interested in what other people think.

 

[yukon-cel]

Nicki Minaj
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Holy smokes

 

[Deleted member 8165]

me

 

[Deleted member 756]

me

No

 

[Deleted member 8165]

No

my maxilla is too forward growth compared to my orbitals and cheekbones

 

[Deleted member 756]

my maxilla is too forward growth compared to my orbitals and cheekbones

They’re fine

 

[everythingisacope]

Yes obviously there is a limit in theory, but I'm wondering if people can realistically reach that limit. Like have you ever seen a picture of someone with too much forward growth? Like to the point where it failio'd them? I haven't. That nicki minaj picture someone posted was the most forward grown example I have seen, and imo it was still a pretty good side profile aesthetically (top 10%).

I'm asking all of this from the point of view of someone interested in le fort 3. Should a normie be worried about going for the max advancement possible (2cm let's say)? This is all assuming we ignore health risks and bad soft tissue outcome risks. I would guess no, but I'm interested in what other people think.

I'd say you shouldn't be worried about going for the max advancement possible if you have normie side profile

 

[RODEBLUR]

Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.

 

[joseph]

Nicki Minaj
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@thecel

 

[Nisse]

Nicki Minaj
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BHAHAHAHAHAH looks like a fucking monkey

 

[Lolcel]

Nicki Minaj
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Probably has fillers

 

[Zradrad]

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"just mew bro"

 

[Deleted member 10172]

BHAHAHAHAHAH looks like a fucking monkey

Still looks good

 

[Deleted member 9670]

Still looks good

anyone who says she isn't good looking is coping

 

[Deleted member 10172]

anyone who says she isn't good looking is coping

No such thing. Unless you're talking about surgery results which can look unnatural because of how unpredictable soft tissue response is and large movements in unnatural directions.
Or if there is too much downward growth with the forward growth (ape-like appearance).
Or some kind of hormonal excess like acromegaly.
Africans don't grow much more forward than the rest they just genetically have thicker soft tissue lips and their adaptation to malocclusion is usually bimaxillary (really bi-dental) protrusion.
The human jaws and cranial base have a genetic set point of ideal functional and aesthetic growth, size, shape, and position. Most people deviate from this due to changes in muscular postures, function, diet, and possibly epigenome.

Ccw rotation with anterior impaction will fix downward growth

 

[randomvanish]

 

[eduardkoopman]

Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.

straight profile moggs, imo.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Nicki Minaj
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the browridge looks so recessed.

Straight profile moggs, imo. Where the browridge kinda alligns with rest.

 

[LILMAXILLA]

Straight profile moggs, imo. Where the browridge kinda alligns with rest.

Ideal facial convexity is 165-170°. And realistically the girl you showed fits that range. 180°+ is abnormal and not aesthetic. (generally speaking)

 

[thecel]

Nicki Minaj
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NO!

See, I edited her with MORE FORWARD GROWTH, and the edit is better looking than the original pic is.

Nicki Minaj isn’t excessively forward-grown; the truth is that Minaj isn’t forward-grown enough.

 

[Deleted member 4054]

This is too much

 

[Deleted member 13710]

The only examples of "too much forward growth" I have seen are on Africans (and even then it seems very rare).

 

[eduardkoopman]

HRe forE

NO!

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See, I edited her with MORE FORWARD GROWTH, and the edit is better looking than the original pic is.

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Nicki Minaj isn’t excessively forward-grown; the truth is that Minaj isn’t forward-grown enough.

HEr, forehead is imo a looksminus alot

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

it's impossible unless using unnatural methods such as face pulling or surgery. perfectly developed, the forces exerted on the maxilla hold it in complete equilibrium, the vast majority of contemporary humans fall short of this

 

[RODEBLUR]

Nicki Minaj
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If she had a browridge it would be fine

 

[Xangsane]

Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.

 

[thecel]

HRe forE

HEr, forehead is imo a looksminus alot

Which forehead, the one in the before or in the after?

I think that her unedited forehead is a li'l' bit shitty and that my edit improves it.