what is TOO much forward growth?

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Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.
 
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LILMAXILLA said:
As much as possible (1-2cm)
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I think there can be only "too much" forward growth in relation to your browridge and jaw
 
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LILMAXILLA said:
I forgot to specify.

Has anyone ever seen an example of too much forward growth, in HUMANS (without a syndrome)?
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you also need to specify that youre talking abotu whites
many examples of too much forward growth in negroes
 
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Mongrelcel said:
you also need to specify that youre talking abotu whites
many examples of too much forward growth in negroes
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Well if I had to specify I would say whites. But I feel like the examples of black people that you are thinking of are not the type of excessive forward growth I thinking of. I believe that those are just examples of the Lower bit of maxilla and upper bit of mandible being too forward grown compared to the rest of the maxilla and mandible.
 
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LILMAXILLA said:
Again I'm talking about overall forward growth (including zygos midface, nose etc...), not people with bimaxillary protrusion...
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Oh ok got it
 
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No such thing as long as other features keep up with it
 
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spark said:
looks shopped
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Nope, I don't think so.
There isn't many pics of her side profile but even though it's a weird angle you can still tell her jaw is forward grown. Black people tend to have a similar side profile, but she happens to be more developed than the average black person.
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I cum instantly when I see a forward grown face on a foid, there is no too much forward growth for me tbh the more the better
 
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No such thing. Unless you're talking about surgery results which can look unnatural because of how unpredictable soft tissue response is and large movements in unnatural directions.
Or if there is too much downward growth with the forward growth (ape-like appearance).
Or some kind of hormonal excess like acromegaly.
Africans don't grow much more forward than the rest they just genetically have thicker soft tissue lips and their adaptation to malocclusion is usually bimaxillary (really bi-dental) protrusion.
The human jaws and cranial base have a genetic set point of ideal functional and aesthetic growth, size, shape, and position. Most people deviate from this due to changes in muscular postures, function, diet, and possibly epigenome.
 
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No such thing
 
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LILMAXILLA said:
Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.
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ye there is such thing as too much forward growth, looks uncanny since the forehead remains the same
 
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everythingisacope said:
ye there is such thing as too much forward growth, looks uncanny since the forehead remains the same
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Yes obviously there is a limit in theory, but I'm wondering if people can realistically reach that limit. Like have you ever seen a picture of someone with too much forward growth? Like to the point where it failio'd them? I haven't. That nicki minaj picture someone posted was the most forward grown example I have seen, and imo it was still a pretty good side profile aesthetically (top 10%).

I'm asking all of this from the point of view of someone interested in le fort 3. Should a normie be worried about going for the max advancement possible (2cm let's say)? This is all assuming we ignore health risks and bad soft tissue outcome risks. I would guess no, but I'm interested in what other people think.
 
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LILMAXILLA said:
Yes obviously there is a limit in theory, but I'm wondering if people can realistically reach that limit. Like have you ever seen a picture of someone with too much forward growth? Like to the point where it failio'd them? I haven't. That nicki minaj picture someone posted was the most forward grown example I have seen, and imo it was still a pretty good side profile aesthetically (top 10%).

I'm asking all of this from the point of view of someone interested in le fort 3. Should a normie be worried about going for the max advancement possible (2cm let's say)? This is all assuming we ignore health risks and bad soft tissue outcome risks. I would guess no, but I'm interested in what other people think.
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I'd say you shouldn't be worried about going for the max advancement possible if you have normie side profile
 
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LILMAXILLA said:
Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.
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MarkCorrigan said:
anyone who says she isn't good looking is coping
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Babushkacatlady said:
No such thing. Unless you're talking about surgery results which can look unnatural because of how unpredictable soft tissue response is and large movements in unnatural directions.
Or if there is too much downward growth with the forward growth (ape-like appearance).
Or some kind of hormonal excess like acromegaly.
Africans don't grow much more forward than the rest they just genetically have thicker soft tissue lips and their adaptation to malocclusion is usually bimaxillary (really bi-dental) protrusion.
The human jaws and cranial base have a genetic set point of ideal functional and aesthetic growth, size, shape, and position. Most people deviate from this due to changes in muscular postures, function, diet, and possibly epigenome.
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Ccw rotation with anterior impaction will fix downward growth
 
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LILMAXILLA said:
Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.
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straight profile moggs, imo.
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eduardkoopman said:
Straight profile moggs, imo. Where the browridge kinda alligns with rest.
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Ideal facial convexity is 165-170°. And realistically the girl you showed fits that range. 180°+ is abnormal and not aesthetic. (generally speaking)

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This is too much


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The only examples of "too much forward growth" I have seen are on Africans (and even then it seems very rare).
 
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it's impossible unless using unnatural methods such as face pulling or surgery. perfectly developed, the forces exerted on the maxilla hold it in complete equilibrium, the vast majority of contemporary humans fall short of this
 
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LILMAXILLA said:
Has there ever been an example of too much forward growth?

When I say forward growth I mean how forward grown the whole lower half of the face is (including zygos, lower orbitals, midface, etc... not people with just a very concave face, that makes their Jaw stick out a ton. )

Let's say, hypothetically you were getting lefort 3. How much forward movement would you ask for? As much as possible (1-2cm)?

Plz discuss.
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eduardkoopman said:
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HEr, forehead is imo a looksminus alot
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Which forehead, the one in the before or in the after?

I think that her unedited forehead is a li'l' bit shitty and that my edit improves it.
 
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