what kind of PSL required to bang these girls

[wristcel]

Nigga. Send me pics of your face. Willing to bet 500 quid you are not ugly.

I don't think i'm a complete gargoyle or anything (except in selfies!!) but as I say, i'm on the ugly side in terms of major flaws (i'm short, i'm as old as dirt...like @Amnesia 's age! I have a big nose. I have a weak chin/jaw due to overbite and smallish jaw. I also have fairly bad skin as I had cystic acne growing up and took 2 courses of accutane. Was also norwooding, but had a transplant nearly 3 months ago)

The only things that I could say MIGHT be positives is that my eyes are quite deep set. Strongish brow bone maybe. I also sometimes get told I look a lot younger than I am

I have some pics of me that i've take where I think I look OK. But the fact that I have some pics of me that are HONESTLY repulsive should demonstrate i'm certainly not good looking. if it's not the perfect pic, the i'm at risk of looking hideous lol. I still plan to get rhino and some sort of chin/jaw work, after which, I think i'll look ok (for my age)

I'd be way too embarrased to post one of my candid type pics haha. I'd possibly send someone one of my better pics, but then that might not be a true reflection of how I look. I did send someone here one such pic a while ago when looking for surgery advice (a high trust member who knows a shit load about surgeries. You seem a bit crazy to me so i woudln't risk sending you my pics lol)

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Yes. Calling himself ugly and bragging about getting girls is just attention seeking behavior. Truth is, ugly men don't get shit nowadays, especially in a place like the UK where hypergamy is insane. He hasn't PMed me pics of his face because he knows he is above average and that I'll call him out for acting like an attention-seeking foid. It's the same with every other self-proclaimed ugly dude who gets women. Above average dudes underrating themselves.

I'm ugly and get good looking girls, so what. he only says that he's slaying out of his league, which should encourage others, rather than mock them

 

[wristcel]

I'm ugly and get good looking girls, so what. he only says that he's slaying out of his league, which should encourage others, rather than mock them

yes. I've also mentioned I get rejected a shit load! This really wasn't meant to be a brag thread lol. I got turned down maybe 5 times on Saturday just gone by girls that I wanted. I then had the opportunity to sleep with a semi attractive girl but she was nearly as old as me and I like girls way way younger so didn't bother
It was a more about risk:reward factor of surgery for someone who despite not being great looking has managed to get a few semi attractive girls. At the time of this thread I was very close to booking my rhino (went for transplant 1st in the end as safer for a 1st surgery!) and had seen some horrific bodge jobs

 

[Deleted member 7098]

-5 PSL facially

so only high-tier normie, and i bet it could be stretched to above average

-6 feet

he's 5'8

-White

most girls don't care for ethnicity, but you have to be better looking than your white male looksmatch

NTmaxxed

autists of any kind of looks don't get pussy, so being NT is always necessary

-Good career i.e. somewhat moneymaxxed

cope, barely any girls care. and the ones that do you should avoid anyway
can't be beta-buxxing for starfish-sex once a year

And the amount you need to cover increases exponentially with each 0.25 PSL. It makes more sense for a 3 PSL dude to looksmax to 4 PSL and then marry a 5 PSL girl then to compensate with a lot of money.

that's exactly what he said, didn't he? he recognizes his flaws and is set on to still get surgery to have better chances with good-looking girls

 

[Pakicel]

I don't think i'm a complete gargoyle or anything (except in selfies!!) but as I say, i'm on the ugly side in terms of major flaws (i'm short, i'm as old as dirt...like @Amnesia 's age! I have a big nose. I have a weak chin/jaw due to overbite and smallish jaw. I also have fairly bad skin as I had cystic acne growing up and took 2 courses of accutane. Was also norwooding, but had a transplant nearly 3 months ago)

The only things that I could say MIGHT be positives is that my eyes are quite deep set. Strongish brow bone maybe. I also sometimes get told I look a lot younger than I am

I have some pics of me that i've take where I think I look OK. But the fact that I have some pics of me that are HONESTLY repulsive should demonstrate i'm certainly not good looking. if it's not the perfect pic, the i'm at risk of looking hideous lol. I still plan to get rhino and some sort of chin/jaw work, after which, I think i'll look (ok for my age)

I'd be way too embarrased to post one of my candid type pics out of sheer embarrassment haha. I'd possibly send someone one of my better pics, but then that might not be a true reflection of how I look. I did send someone here one such pic a while ago when looking for surgery advice (a high trust member who knows a shit load about surgeries. You seem a bit crazy to me so i woudln't risk sending you my pics lol)

I am not crazy dude. I am a fairly level headed and trusted member here. I have never trolled or had a beef with anyone here. But this post proves my point. You know you aren't ugly and sending me your pics would fuck up your argument. You are probably a 4-5 PSL dude. Btw everyone has crap pics. And selfies are the worst way to judge your looks as they distort your face like crazy.

The way you talk as if anybody here could date white stacy's and stacylites with ease. When what they need more than ever is to looksmax as much as they can and be realistic with the sorts of girls they can get. Even you btw are surgerymaxxing so deep down you know just how much looks matter for dating and other things.

 

[wristcel]

I am not crazy dude. I am a fairly level headed and trusted member here. I have never trolled or had a beef with anyone here. But this post proves my point. You know you aren't ugly and sending me your pics would fuck up your argument. You are probably a 4-5 PSL dude. Btw everyone has crap pics. And selfies are the worst way to judge your looks as they distort your face like crazy.

The way you talk as if anybody here could date white stacy's and stacylites with ease. When what they need more than ever is to looksmax as much as they can and be realistic with the sorts of girls they can get. Even you btw are surgerymaxxing so deep down you know just how much looks matter for dating and other things.

You're kind of putting words in my mouth. I'm pretty damn blackpilled too. I've written a tonne on here over the years about my experiences with my legit chad friend/wingman. I've seen first hand how it works. Yes, looks are super important. She needs to think you are hot. And if you are chad hot you can pork your way through a whole city in no time.

I encourage looksmaxxing and as you say, i've done it myself and intend to do rhino and likely genio going forward.

This thread was really just about whether one should give it a 2nd thought it they are currently enjoying some success, even if they are not some sort of chad. I think that numbers game is a large part of any success i've had. Like I said, at the time of that pic when I was in good shape, I was basically a virgin. That was before i'd started cold approach. Girls certainly weren't throwing themselves at me. Then or now lol

I don't think 'anybody' can date white stacys or stacylites 'with ease' at all. Including me lol.

 

[Pakicel]

so only high-tier normie, and i bet it could be stretched to above average

In her eyes, I bet if we sent one of the girls he posted a pic of amnesia or salludon, they'd get called average or below average.

he's 5'8

LARP. Nigga, probably didn't even measure himself correctly. Doesn't mention if he liftfrauds either. Possibly, a 5'10"-11" dude who wears big boots.

most girls don't care for ethnicity, but you have to be better looking than your white male looksmatch

Gigacope. Racepill is extremely brutal. Even salludon gets taxed hard. He's equivalent to a 4-5 PSL dude in terms of appeal. 4 PSL ethnic is excluded by default.

autists of any kind of looks don't get pussy, so being NT is always necessary

Cope. Autism is developed due to subpar looks during puberty. You have to be very autistic not to capitalize on IOIs and you will get them if you are gl enough.

cope, barely any girls care. and the ones that do you should avoid anyway
can't be beta-buxxing for starfish-sex once a year

You have to pay the difference in SMV. It could be money, status, being an emotional tampon. Whatever.

 

[Pakicel]

I'm ugly and get good looking girls, so what. he only says that he's slaying out of his league, which should encourage others, rather than mock them

Another self-proclaimed ugly dude. JFL. Ugly guys can't get good looking girls for the most part. The fact that my ugly friends have unrealistic standards is part of the reason they are incel. You are probably the same as him tbh. 4-5 PSL white dude above average height NTmaxxed careermaxxed. You run numbers game.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Ugly guys can't get good looking girls for the most part.

for the most part. but i still sometimes score a really good-looking one.
definitely not with any kind of consistency, but it does happen

 

[Pakicel]

for the most part. but i still sometimes score a really good-looking one.
definitely not with any kind of consistency, but it does happen

Yes. Most of the people here are not gonna get stacies for LTRs even fully looksmaxxed. They need to be realistic with their standards or they will stay incel. Also, approaching women too far above your looks level exponentially increases your chances of being metoo'ed. Even Amnesia has had women accuse him of sexual harassment. Btw by ugly, I mean a guy like this:

Imo, unless you look as bad as him, you can't call yourself ugly.

 

[Deleted member 7098]

Yes. Most of the people here are not gonna get stacies for LTRs even fully looksmaxxed. They need to be realistic with their standards or they will stay incel. Also, approaching women too far above your looks level exponentially increases your chances of being metoo'ed. Even Amnesia has had women accuse him of sexual harassment. Btw by ugly, I mean a guy like this:

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Imo, unless you look as bad as him, you can't call yourself ugly.

that dude is like a 3-4/10, can't compare it to 5-6/10

 

[Pakicel]

that dude is like a 3-4/10, can't compare it to 6/10

Not a 3-4/10. Ask women. They will have trouble recognizing him as a human being. Maybe the uglier ones might say he is 3/10 i.e. just ugly. 6/10 is a weak HTN ffs. Amnesia is probably a 5-6/10 in women's eyes at best. I remember Salludon getting rated 6.5/10 by one girl and then get called ugly by another.

 

[Pakicel]

that dude is like a 3-4/10, can't compare it to 5-6/10

Btw neither of you guys claimed 5-6/10. You said you were ugly so that means 3-4/10 at the most.

 

[wristcel]

Btw neither of you guys claimed 5-6/10. You said you were ugly so that means 3-4/10 at the most.

I just meant ugly by this sites standards, bearing in mind my aforementioned failos!
And I was given a 4/10 (I think) back when I posted my pic on lookism site a few years back (when I was younger so probably better looking lol)

I did send someone a pic of me a minute ago here so maybe he can give his view if he wants.

Here's what I think though: If I posted my pics first and said 'what sort of chance have I got of sleeping with girls like this? (and then posted them same pics)' people would say 'it's over' or "0% chance". And people will probably over rate me now because i've posted a few semi decent looking girls i've been with.

 

[Pakicel]

I just meant ugly by this sites standards, bearing in mind my aforementioned failos!
And I was given a 4/10 (I think) back when I posted my pic on lookism site a few years back (when I was younger so probably better looking lol)

I did send someone a pic of me a minute ago here so maybe he can give his view if he wants.

Here's what I think though: If I posted my pics first and said 'what sort of chance have I got of sleeping with girls like this? (and then posted them same pics)' people would say 'it's over' or "0% chance". And people will probably over rate me now because i've posted a few semi decent looking girls i've been with.

I think this site has lower standards for looks than IRL. Like some people claim the average guy on the street would be rated chadlite here. I think lookism used to rate very harshly back in the day. IDK man. I really want to believe you but the number of tinder experiments where chadlites match with 60 year old grannies and women calling legit male models ugly blackpills me. Also, my NT ugly friends get jack shit where I live even after trying a lot. It doesn't add up. Only plausible explanation is that you are average to above average and run numbers game.

 

[Pakicel]

I just meant ugly by this sites standards, bearing in mind my aforementioned failos!
And I was given a 4/10 (I think) back when I posted my pic on lookism site a few years back (when I was younger so probably better looking lol)

I did send someone a pic of me a minute ago here so maybe he can give his view if he wants.

Here's what I think though: If I posted my pics first and said 'what sort of chance have I got of sleeping with girls like this? (and then posted them same pics)' people would say 'it's over' or "0% chance". And people will probably over rate me now because i've posted a few semi decent looking girls i've been with.

4/10 is basically low tier normie. It's a solid looks level.

 

[Deleted member 11388]

Btw neither of you guys claimed 5-6/10. You said you were ugly so that means 3-4/10 at the most.

first off i don't think both of them are truly ugly but below average-average if they say ugly.

2nd i can confirm that i know a few guys who are worse looking than me (im like solid above average HTN with good height-sex appeal) and got laid with hotter and more girls than me at that time.
The difference was they put A TON of numbers and put in way more effort.
I am top 10-15% of guys in my country and i have insanely good pictures on tinder so i can get away with texting 5-10 messages before asking a girl out because she will wanna go out with me cuz im GL, also i can put in way less effort on dates, i can fuckup more on dates, be more autistic etc and girls will still bang me cuz im GL.

Wristcel approachs 5 girls per night sometimes, if i did the same i would get laid easily probably but im too lazy to put in effort when i can get cute girls off tinder.
Also being in position meet girls IRL means a ton as well, i don't go out and i play video games or gym all day so i can't meet girls irl so i just get them off tinder.

Also my 5'4 friend who was balding but ripped got laid with a attractive chick off tinder BUT he had to talk for 2 weeks while i would never bother to talk so much with any chick.

so point is the better looking you are the easier it is for you to get laid and the more you can fuck up and still get laid but i myself belive if you are normie/below average you can looksmax+stylemax to average/ above average normie and get laid with cute girls, it won't be as easy as it is for chadlite/chad but it is possible.


there is a really god explanation and its 5-7 key areas of success, its based on your ability to slay is as good as your lowest key area,: for example slaying in general
opening -how many new girls/new prospects you open/dm/approach
looks
logistics- if you live alone or with roommate or with parents or in a small city
confidence
low inhib/not giving a shit
general NTness

rate your 5-7 key areas 1-10 and you will see where you lacking

for example 1.if you have all but you don't have opening so you just stay at home and play video games and dont do tinder or anything you wont get laid at all
2. if you have everything else but you ugly af you wont get laid
3.if you have all but you dont live alone or live in a village with 20 people with your parents you aint gettin laid
4. if you have everything else but you are non NT and are autistic fuck you might still get laid but its gonna be 1 in 1000

so you should focus on your worst area to see the greatest improvments.


i know my worst area is opening which most guys also is the worst area thats why there are so many people teaching how to cold approach.
I only do tinder/badoo and cuz my city is shit i run out of people to swipe on in 2-3 days after making a new acc.
So if i was in a bigger city or if i did clubgame/daygame and increased my opening i would double or triple my monthly slays cuz i have other things covered/pretty high rating on them already

 

[Pakicel]

first off i don't think both of them are truly ugly but below average-average if they say ugly.

2nd i can confirm that i know a few guys who are worse looking than me (im like solid above average HTN with good height-sex appeal) and got laid with hotter and more girls than me at that time.
The difference was they put A TON of numbers and put in way more effort.
I am top 10-15% of guys in my country and i have insanely good pictures on tinder so i can get away with texting 5-10 messages before asking a girl out because she will wanna go out with me cuz im GL, also i can put in way less effort on dates, i can fuckup more on dates, be more autistic etc and girls will still bang me cuz im GL.

Wristcel approachs 5 girls per night sometimes, if i did the same i would get laid easily probably but im too lazy to put in effort when i can get cute girls off tinder.
Also being in position meet girls IRL means a ton as well, i don't go out and i play video games or gym all day so i can't meet girls irl so i just get them off tinder.

Also my 5'4 friend who was balding but ripped got laid with a attractive chick off tinder BUT he had to talk for 2 weeks while i would never bother to talk so much with any chick.

so point is the better looking you are the easier it is for you to get laid and the more you can fuck up and still get laid but i myself belive if you are normie/below average you can looksmax+stylemax to average/ above average normie and get laid with cute girls, it won't be as easy as it is for chadlite/chad but it is possible.


there is a really god explanation and its 5-7 key areas of success, its based on your ability to slay is as good as your lowest key area,: for example slaying in general
opening -how many new girls/new prospects you open/dm/approach
looks
logistics- if you live alone or with roommate or with parents or in a small city
confidence
low inhib/not giving a shit
general NTness

for example 1.if you have all but you don't have opening so you just stay at home and play video games and dont do tinder or anything you wont get laid at all
2. if you have everything else but you ugly af you wont get laid
3.if you have all but you dont live alone or live in a village with 20 people with your parents you aint gettin laid
4. if you have everything else but you are non NT and are autistic fuck you might still get laid but its gonna be 1 in 1000

Don't want to slay tbh. I just want to LTR girls around this looks level:

What is the min looks level/NT level to get someone like her? I am not autistic. I probably NTmog most of the people on this site. People say I am autistic here because I am fairly analytical and don't fall for certain memes in the PSL community.

 

[Pakicel]

Also my 5'4 friend who was balding but ripped got laid with a attractive chick off tinder BUT he had to talk for 2 weeks while i would never bother to talk so much with any chick.

JFL at this bluepilled BS. You sound like a redditor who claims his short ugly friend gets laid. 5'4" and balding is a death sentence nigga.

 

[Deleted member 11388]

Don't want to slay tbh. I just want to LTR girls around this looks level:

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What is the min looks level/NT level to get someone like her? I am not autistic. I probably NTmog most of the people on this site. People say I am autistic here because I am fairly analytical and don't fall for certain memes in the PSL community.

i'd say you can get this type of girl with 4 psl for LTR, every fucking idiot can get a ltr srsly.
I don't know how to get LTR i just know how to slay so i cant give you advice on that

If you are average/above average NT and 4 psl and approach a decent amount of girls looking like that you will find to ltr easily imo

 

[Pakicel]

i'd say you can get this type of girl with 4 psl for LTR, every fucking idiot can get a ltr srsly.
I don't know how to get LTR i just know how to slay so i cant give you advice on that

If you are average/above average NT and 4 psl and approach a decent amount of girls looking like that you will find to ltr easily imo

Lifefuel. Just need to be 4 PSL. I can get there with surgeries.

 

[Deleted member 11388]

JFL at this bluepilled BS. You sound like a redditor who claims his short ugly friend gets laid. 5'4" and balding is a death sentence nigga.

he got laid, not consistenly but got laid once(dunno if he got laid more), while i who am 6'1 and way better looking got laid with 5 chicks better looking than his chick(who was quite fuckable) in the same time it took him to get laid with 1, also i put in way less effort.
So it is possible but its gonna be way harder if you short and bald

 

[Deleted member 11388]

Lifefuel. Just need to be 4 PSL. I can get there with surgeries.

you not even 4 psl ?

 

[Deleted member 11388]

Lifefuel. Just need to be 4 PSL. I can get there with surgeries.

it also depends what is the competition in your country, here i am rated 7/10 htn 4.5-5psl but when compared to guys in my country im top 10% so ids say my SMV is 8-9/10 easily.

 

[Pakicel]

you not even 4 psl ?

5'10 and change. I am a light-skinned currycel. IDK tbh. People I dm'ed said I looked decent but the thing is my flaws (nose and lower third) are probably more apparent IRL. I'd put myself at 3.25 PSL right know. Need rhino+genio to hit 4 PSL. And then fillers to be HTN. Some niggas here can't rate for shit. People gaslight you in DMs. One nigga called me mentally ill for considering surgery. I trust my own eyes and real life experience with women. I am subhuman.

 

[Deleted member 11388]

5'10 and change. I am a light-skinned currycel. IDK tbh. People I dm'ed said I looked decent but the thing is my flaws (nose and lower third) are probably more apparent IRL. I'd put myself at 3.25 PSL right know. Need rhino+genio to hit 4 PSL. And then fillers to be HTN.

tbh cant tell shit unless seing you irl, all this online rating and video is trash, only valid shit is irl srs

 

[Pakicel]

tbh cant tell shit unless seing you irl, all this online rating and video is trash, only valid shit is irl srs

Yeah pretty much. I look worse IRL due to nasal hump and trash lower third.

 

[Chinacurry]

Sometimes I think that even though i'm on the ugly side (big nose, receding and weak jaw/chin are main facial issues) i've not done terribly with girls which makes scared of surgery. Especially after seeing bodge jobs recently!

Curious about the standards of the forum after reading some of @Amnesia 's threads about rating girls etc. Also curious as some say you need to be good looking to get half decent girls.

These are a handful of girls I hooked up with pre-covid.


Think she was 22. Banged

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She was like 17 lmao. Had to massively fraud about my age! Banged

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Bottom left. 25 ish? Banged
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this one got away. Close to the bang but no cigar
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19. This one got away too. Made out and stuff but no bang. Haunted me for weeks
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Im gonna guess you r PSL 7 to get girls like this?? And I'd guess pretty jacked with bodyfat below 14%?

 

[Chinacurry]

In her eyes, I bet if we sent one of the girls he posted a pic of amnesia or salludon, they'd get called average or below average.

LARP. Nigga, probably didn't even measure himself correctly. Doesn't mention if he liftfrauds either. Possibly, a 5'10"-11" dude who wears big boots.

Gigacope. Racepill is extremely brutal. Even salludon gets taxed hard. He's equivalent to a 4-5 PSL dude in terms of appeal. 4 PSL ethnic is excluded by default.

Cope. Autism is developed due to subpar looks during puberty. You have to be very autistic not to capitalize on IOIs and you will get them if you are gl enough.

You have to pay the difference in SMV. It could be money, status, being an emotional tampon. Whatever.

You're fairly accurate, but not on racepill.

There is no racepill, at least in UK or USA, as long as you're good looking.

Salludon may get taxed cos of cultural failo, but the girl swiping left on him, if he goes up to that same girl in a bar, well dressed, in a non cringe accent, and he is gonna be balls deep in her an hour later

 

[Pakicel]

You're fairly accurate, but not on racepill.

There is no racepill, at least in UK or USA, as long as you're good looking.

Salludon may get taxed cos of cultural failo, but the girl swiping left on him, if he goes up to that same girl in a bar, well dressed, in a non cringe accent, and he is gonna be balls deep in her an hour later

Finally, a blackpilled nigga here. I am sick of these bluepilled threads where self-proclaimed ugly dudes claim they say.

 

[Chinacurry]

Finally, a blackpilled nigga here. I am sick of these bluepilled threads where self-proclaimed ugly dudes claim they say.

Thanks bhai

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

whats your approach method and what sort of places do you go to approac girls?

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

You're fairly accurate, but not on racepill.

There is no racepill, at least in UK or USA, as long as you're good looking.

Salludon may get taxed cos of cultural failo, but the girl swiping left on him, if he goes up to that same girl in a bar, well dressed, in a non cringe accent, and he is gonna be balls deep in her an hour later

so are you honestly saying that being an indian doesnt put you at a disadvnatge at all trying to pull girls in the west?

 

[Chinacurry]

so are you honestly saying that being an indian doesnt put you at a disadvnatge at all trying to pull girls in the west?

Yeah or does sure, but it's not like a tax, where a 7 Indian or ethnic is worth as much as. 5-6 JBW.

It disadvantages u in the sense that your universe is smaller. If there are 100 white girls in a room, 20 would ONLY date a white guy due to their cultural upbringing, that's normal in any culture.

If u want to perceive that as tax, then fine, but I don't see it as tax, co I've seen it in all races with foids, and its roots are not only cultural, it's also because foids historicaly have been the victims of patriarchy, and ethnics in particular, Indians to lesser extent, have been portrayed for 800 years as aggressors who challenge their way of life, and are uncivilised and aggressively take what they want, if Ur a cute little white girl then u r right to b cautious and play safe.

 

[wristcel]

whats your approach method and what sort of places do you go to approac girls?

I approach girls in bars. Either walk up to them or just throw a comment at one of them if they are standing near me. Maybe an observation about whatever they are doing at that moment or anything in particular I notice. Then I make a bit of small talk and try to flirt. 95% of the time it's a bit like talking too a brick wall so I move on. If they are somewhat receptive i'll carry on, maybe try to move them too a different part of the bar or to the dance floor to get a bit of isolation, and then i'll escalate with more touch, and try to get her back to my place or get her to invite me to hers

I want to get away from the bluepill stuff that @Pakicel was talking about. I don't think that's me. I get just as annoyed as anyone else when I read people on reddit who are like 'My friend is bald and 5ft 3 and in his 40's and he bangs super model teenagers most nights blablaba''. It's ridiculous of course. But i'm not saying that. I'm not saying i'm hideous. Just that I have some fairly major weaknesses in terms of classic PSL ratings. Certainly also not saying i'm a slayer. I get rejected a lot as i've mentioned before. I'm just someone who has been with a few girls who are above me in terms of looks which made me extra cautious when negotiating surgeries going forward. That was really the point of the thread.

 

[Pakicel]

I approach girls in bars. Either walk up to them or just throw a comment at one of them if they are standing near me. Maybe an observation about whatever they are doing at that moment or anything in particular I notice. Then I make a bit of small talk and try to flirt. 95% of the time it's a bit like talking too a brick wall so I move on. If they are somewhat receptive i'll carry on, maybe try to move them too a different part of the bar or to the dance floor to get a bit of isolation, and then i'll escalate with more touch, and try to get her back to my place or get her to invite me to hers

I want to get away from the bluepill stuff that @Pakicel was talking about. I don't think that's me. I get just as annoyed as anyone else when I read people on reddit who are like 'My friend is bald and 5ft 3 and in his 40's and he bangs super model teenagers most nights blablaba''. It's ridiculous of course. But i'm not saying that. I'm not saying i'm hideous. Just that I have some fairly major weaknesses in terms of classic PSL ratings. Certainly also not saying i'm a slayer. I get rejected a lot as i've mentioned before. I'm just someone who has been with a few girls who are above me in terms of looks which made me extra cautious when negotiating surgeries going forward. That was really the point of the thread.

Yeah I agree. I am actually planning on getting genio+rhino myself. I have birdcel side profile. Might need hair transplant later on as well. So we are basically on the same page. Why don't you post some of your ugly slays? Also, why didn't you try to LTR any of these women? If the hot chick you are banging finds you attractive enough for fwb why not LTR?

 

[Pakicel]

Yeah or does sure, but it's not like a tax, where a 7 Indian or ethnic is worth as much as. 5-6 JBW.

It disadvantages u in the sense that your universe is smaller. If there are 100 white girls in a room, 20 would ONLY date a white guy due to their cultural upbringing, that's normal in any culture.

If u want to perceive that as tax, then fine, but I don't see it as tax, co I've seen it in all races with foids, and its roots are not only cultural, it's also because foids historicaly have been the victims of patriarchy, and ethnics in particular, Indians to lesser extent, have been portrayed for 800 years as aggressors who challenge their way of life, and are uncivilised and aggressively take what they want, if Ur a cute little white girl then u r right to b cautious and play safe.

By tax I mean, being non-white disadvantages you.

 

[BigBiceps]

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I approach girls in bars. Either walk up to them or just throw a comment at one of them if they are standing near me. Maybe an observation about whatever they are doing at that moment or anything in particular I notice. Then I make a bit of small talk and try to flirt. 95% of the time it's a bit like talking too a brick wall so I move on. If they are somewhat receptive i'll carry on, maybe try to move them too a different part of the bar or to the dance floor to get a bit of isolation, and then i'll escalate with more touch, and try to get her back to my place or get her to invite me to hers

I want to get away from the bluepill stuff that @Pakicel was talking about. I don't think that's me. I get just as annoyed as anyone else when I read people on reddit who are like 'My friend is bald and 5ft 3 and in his 40's and he bangs super model teenagers most nights blablaba''. It's ridiculous of course. But i'm not saying that. I'm not saying i'm hideous. Just that I have some fairly major weaknesses in terms of classic PSL ratings. Certainly also not saying i'm a slayer. I get rejected a lot as i've mentioned before. I'm just someone who has been with a few girls who are above me in terms of looks which made me extra cautious when negotiating surgeries going forward. That was really the point of the thread.

Do you go out to bars alone - I want to do this but worried a bouncer will think I’m some kind of Rapist or spiker

 

[wristcel]

Why don't you post some of your ugly slays?

Not sure what the point would be haha. But i've banged some ugly girls too. Most of them I don't even know their names and stuff though and certainly didn't add them on facebook and stuff like I did the ones in the OP. So not even as easy to find pics of them ones even if I wanted too! I banged some massive fat black girl on 'black Friday' a few years back which made my friends laugh!

Also, why didn't you try to LTR any of these women?

i've got zero interest in having a girlfriend full stop. I'm someone who likes their own company and hates obligation. This new girl who's pic I posted is one of a very small number of girls who i've been kind of 'seeing'/sleeping with more than once. It won't be an actual boyfriend/girlfirned thing though. No doubt she's banging loads of guys although of course tells me she's not. Whatever

 

[wristcel]

Do you go out to bars alone - I want to do this but worried a bouncer will think I’m some kind of Rapist or spiker

i've never gone too a bar alone other than when I went travlling to Budapest. (i've written about my budapest experience before here. Fun)

I go with friends. It's just a bit weird to go alone here in the UK, but if I lived in the US where people are just way more social and stuff i'd probably give it a go

 

[Pakicel]

Not sure what the point would be haha. But i've banged some ugly girls too. Most of them I don't even know their names and stuff though and certainly didn't add them on facebook and stuff like I did the ones in the OP. So not even as easy to find pics of them ones even if I wanted too! I banged some massive fat black girl on 'black Friday' a few years back which made my friends laugh!

i've got zero interest in having a girlfriend full stop. I'm someone who likes their own company and hates obligation. This new girl who's pic I posted is one of a very small number of girls who i've been kind of 'seeing'/sleeping with more than once. It won't be an actual boyfriend/girlfirned thing though. No doubt she's banging loads of guys although of course tells me she's not. Whatever

Hmm. That's interesting. She can get a chad easily through tinder/insta. What do you think happened here? Oh. How big is your dick btw? Could be dickpill.

 

[Pakicel]

@Xangsane what are your thoughts on this slayer? It doesn't make sense especially with your tinder experiments.

 

[oatmeal]

just be gl enough, which will be debated here for eons on what that really means

 

[Chinacurry]

i've never gone too a bar alone other than when I went travlling to Budapest. (i've written about my budapest experience before here. Fun)

I go with friends. It's just a bit weird to go alone here in the UK, but if I lived in the US where people are just way more social and stuff i'd probably give it a go

Budapest is the best night out in Europe

 

[wristcel]

Hmm. That's interesting. She can get a chad easily through tinder/insta. What do you think happened here? Oh. How big is your dick btw? Could be dickpill.

my dick is average at best. What I think happened was partly me just being somewhat her type (different girls different tastes?), and also as I said this was one of my only ever non cold appraoch lays and i think propinquity helped me out a fair bit. Propinquity is something i've never had much of a chance to experiment with but I think it could be quite important and a part of the explanation a decent % of teh time when a guy is batting out of his league.

She's got lots of chadlites and stuff hitting her up non stop. Before we even got together she was showing me pics and stuff (at that point I thought I didn't have a shot as I thought 'why would she be showing me this shit if she was into me!!??''). She's obviously banged lots of much better looking guys. It's fizzling out a bit right now between us which i'm fine with, although I asume it's because she's got so many other options and is probably getting smashed by them lol

 

[Pakicel]

just be gl enough, which will be debated here for eons on what that really means

It's one thing to be gl enough and have good stats heightwise, racewise and brain chemistry wise. But when ugly dudes claim to get ONS with decent to hot women, doesn't that defy most of what we know here?

 

[wristcel]

Budapest is the best night out in Europe

was brilliant. I've written about my experience a few times so won't go into it again, but I had a great time, made even better because I made friends with 2 mega fun, low inhibnition US marines

 

[oatmeal]

It's one thing to be gl enough and have good stats heightwise, racewise and brain chemistry wise. But when ugly dudes claim to get ONS with decent to hot women, doesn't that defy most of what we know here?

idk nigga the world is a confusing place and we are all trying to figure it out

In the end all of you are speaking from your perspective, experiences, research, whatever

it could be anything

 

[Pakicel]

my dick is average at best. What I think happened was partly me just being somewhat her type, and also as I said this was one of my only ever non cold appraoch lays and i think propinquity helped me out a fair bit. Propinquity is something i've never had much of a chance to experiment with but I think it could be quite important and a part of the explanation a decent % of teh time when a guy is batting out of his league.

She's got lots of chadlites and stuff hitting her up non stop. Before we even got together she was showing me pics and stuff (at that point I thought I didn't have a shot as I thought 'why would she be showing me this shit if she was into me!!??''). She's obviously banged lots of much better looking guys. It's fizzling out a bit right now between us which i'm fine with, although I asume it's because she's got so many other options and is probably getting smashed by them lol

You should dickmax tbh. It'll help you keep her on your rotation. Ofcourse, in addition to your surgeries and gymcelling etc. Do you really enjoy banging random women like this? I'd just try to LTR a hot girl rather than stay her fwb.