What really is patriarchy?

[Deleted member 17872]

According to wikipedia

Historically, the term patriarchy has been used to refer to autocratic rule by the male head of a family; however, since the late 20th century it has also been used to refer to social systems in which power is primarily held by adult men.[19][20][21] The term was particularly used by writers associated with second-wave feminism such as Kate Millett; these writers sought to use an understanding of patriarchal social relations to liberate women from male domination.[22][23] This concept of patriarchy was developed to explain male dominance as a social, rather than biological, phenomenon.[20]

So according to feminist theory, that men being leaders and women being caretakers is not a biological but social. Conspired by men to keep power away from women??

@slop slinger @mogger123 @Crusile enlighten me on what really is patriarchy?

@Aypo129 @jerking off in Lidl

 

[Corleone]

according to feminist theory, that men being leaders and women being caretakers is not biological but social.

Someone call the animal kingdom and tell them to change their social structure.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Someone call the animal kingdom and tell them to change their social structure.

They say look at bees and ants which have mother queen and see how they have matriarchy.

Or bonobos who according to them are egalitarian.

 

[Corleone]

They say look at bees and ants which have mother queen and see how they have matriarchy.

Tells you everything you need to know if they have to point to insects to make their point.

Bonobos is bs. Men grow 2x the size of females and are responsible for fighting off predators.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Bonobos is bs.

According to wiki it says bonobos are matriarchal

Bonobos are unusual among apes for their matriarchal social structure (extensive overlap between the male and female hierarchies leads some to refer to them as gender-balanced in their power structure). Bonobos do not have a defined territory and communities will travel over a wide range.

 

[Corleone]

According to wiki it says bonobos are matriarchal

Men grow 2x the size of females and are responsible for fighting off predators.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

@Corleone

At the top of the hierarchy is a coalition of high-ranking females and males typically headed by an old, experienced matriarch[50] who acts as the decision-maker and leader of the group.

 

[Deleted member 16275]

Scapegoat

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Scapegoat

By who? By the elites or by the women or somebody else?

 

[Deleted member 23100]

men are the ordering of the chaotic feminine when this is set off society becomes retarded

 

[Deleted member 17872]

men are the ordering of the chaotic feminine when this is set off society becomes retarded

Stop with this ying-yang bullshit.

Genders are biological not metaphysical

 

[Deleted member 16275]

By who? By the elites or by the women or somebody else?

Women who cant handle the fact that in some aspects, they weren't as lucky as men

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Women who cant handle the fact that in some aspects, they weren't as lucky as men

Women were against feminism initially. It was the men who first supported feminism and forced it into women.

Fuck men

Why hate women when it was the men who are responsible for feminism?

looksmax.org

 

[thenewhebbe]

Both the senate and congress in modern day have really high women in them compared to the past. The senate have 27 % women and congress 43 % women. I would say that is leadership. . So patiarchy is probably not just biology

 

[JBcollector]

Societys run by males

 

[khvirgin]

Scapegoat

True
IT became a buzzword to justify anything

 

[Deleted member 23100]

Stop with this ying-yang bullshit.

Genders are biological not metaphysical

gender being manifested in the material doesn't mean it's exclusive to the biological - ur getting filtered

 

[Deleted member 16275]

Women were against feminism initially. It was the men who first supported feminism and forced it into women.

Fuck men

Why hate women when it was the men who are responsible for feminism?

looksmax.org

Assuming that poll is legit and had enough participants for it to be more than just an anecdote,

why do you think men supported feminism and women didnt?

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Assuming that poll is legit and had enough participants for it to be more than just an anecdote,

The poll is legit. Even before this most women were against voting rights because they didn't want voting duties.

why do you think men supported feminism and women didnt?

Because ugly men thought that the reason women don't fuck them is not looks but religion and traditional family. Men also didn't wanted the responsibility of providing for women.

Why would women support feminism when it means them going out of their homes and working.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

gender being manifested in the material doesn't mean it's exclusive to the biological - ur getting filtered

If it not exclusive to biological the why can't i see it in physics or maths?

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Both the senate and congress in modern day have really high women in them compared to the past. The senate have 27 % women and congress 43 % women. I would say that is leadership. . So patiarchy is probably not just biology

But what really is patriarchy? Feminists say the american senate and congress is patriarchial.

 

[Deleted member 23100]

If it not exclusive to biological the why can't i see it in physics or maths?

you can see it in mind-or-language

 

[Aypo129]

According to wikipedia



So according to feminist theory, that men being leaders and women being caretakers is not a biological but social. Conspired by men to keep power away from women??

@slop slinger @mogger123 @Crusile enlighten me on what really is patriarchy?

@Aypo129 @jerking off in Lidl

There is no patriarchy or matriarchy
There is hiearchy
Top guy is good life bottom guy is bad life
The queen always lived a better life and always will

Pretty much all you would see in time immemorial
In 1880s most men were buck broken farmers
in 1930s most men were 16 hour working coal miner
not to mention countless only men participated and died for the nobles
What kind of patriarchy is it where we are the biggest victim of it

Nowadays there is no patriarchy (matriarchy) and what has changed?
Tech and democracy made life convienient but life is shit for most men either way

I would go far as to say patriarchy is impossible
Male self hatred sees no end and bound

 

[Deleted member 16275]

Why would women support feminism when it means them going out of their homes and working.

Then why do younger women support feminism??

 

[Deleted member 17872]

you can see it in mind-or-language

Language and mind is affected by biology.

 

[Aypo129]

Patriarchy is TRUE however when it exist within a no war period time like arab nation today
I would say patriarchy is the tendency to do what benefits men
Its a way if I DONT Do it you would do it kind of
Both genders are bastaerd who will don anything hold power over another

When male winsatriarchy
When female wins:-matriarchy

 

[khvirgin]

Why would women support feminism when it means them going out of their homes and working.

whats the alternative?
Be a stay at home wife?

 

[Deleted member 17872]

There is no patriarchy or matriarchy
There is hiearchy
Top guy is good life bottom guy is bad life
The queen always lived a better life and always will

Pretty much all you would see in time immemorial
In 1880s most men were buck broken farmers
in 1930s most men were 16 hour working coal miner
not to mention countless only men participated and died for the nobles
What kind of patriarchy is it where we are the biggest victim of it

Nowadays there is no patriarchy (matriarchy) and what has changed?
Tech and democracy made life convienient but life is shit for most men either way

I would go far as to say patriarchy is impossible
Male self hatred sees no end and bound

Some feminists call it heteronormative patriarchial racial captalism some others call it euro-capitalist patriarchy

Patriarchy is TRUE however when it exist within a no war period time like arab nation today
I would say patriarchy is the tendency to do what benefits men
Its a way if I DONT Do it you would do it kind of
Both genders are bastaerd who will don anything hold power over another

When male winsatriarchy
When female wins:-matriarchy

I don't believe in gender wars. I care about my mother, sisters, than other men.

Anyway there is something called Kyriarchy in feminist theory. Which encompasses all form of system of "oppression"

 

[Deleted member 23100]

i had this thread on lookismus i think i vaguely remember the theory so cant be specific but basically feminism as in frankfurt script is merely the byproduct of the indocrination that the mode-of-thought or 'history' itself must be taught as 'oppressors vs oppressed' - if that explains anything to you regards to the whole patriarchy craze, for me it does

 

[Aypo129]

Some feminists call it heteronormative patriarchial racial captalism some others call it euro-capitalist patriarchy


I don't believe in gender wars. I care about my mother, sisters, than other men.

Anyway there is something called Kyriarchy in feminist theory. Which encompasses all form of system of "oppression"

Well there are thousand words to say about the same thing
These theories and these lectures are for ascended people
We have to bilieve that the average person actually bilieves in equality
I for one cannot see it

 

[Aypo129]

i had this thread on lookismus i think i vaguely remember the theory so cant be specific but basically feminism as in frankfurt is merely the byproduct of the indocrination that the mode-of-thought or 'history' itself must be taught as 'oppressors vs oppressed' - if that explains anything to you regards to the whole patriarchy craze, for me it does

Frankfurt was a good school there is lot of alt right myth regarding it but it never bilieved in degenracy and was just for good worker movement

 

[Deleted member 23100]

Frankfurt was a good school there is lot of alt right myth regarding it but it never bilieved in degenracy and was just for good worker movement

nah

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Then why do younger women support feminism??

Because they have been fed this idea of feminism since they were kids. From family to friends to school to internet to work.

Plus nowadays the men are deadbeat and don't want responsibility unlike the men of past so women really don't feel secure with men being in-charge like they used to.

In old days they had their own support system which now have been replaced by feminism. Humans want community and with the erosion of traditional society and religion the only community young women has is feminist circles.

whats the alternative?
Be a stay at home wife?

Many women atleast the poor were never stay at home wives. They generally did part time jobs in farms or as maids or as caretakers but not something really challenging of their abilities.

But being a stay at home wife was more desirable for women than working in office and factories.

 

[Aypo129]

nah

I am saying truth
There were load of youtubers talking bullshit about it bieng cultural marxist and shit
I read up on them and they all had good thoughts in mind
wanted to reduce work load
pay increases
Increasing population
Hated nudity
There words have been twisted in modern times

 

[Aypo129]

Because they have been fed this idea of feminism since they were kids. From family to friends to school to internet to work.

Plus nowadays the men are deadbeat and don't want responsibility unlike the men of past so women really don't feel secure with men being in-charge like they used to.

In old days they had their own support system which now have been replaced by feminism. Humans want community and with the erosion of traditional society and religion the only community young women has is feminist circles.


Many women atleast the poor were never stay at home wives. They generally did part time jobs in farms or as maids or as caretakers but not something really challenging of their abilities.

But being a stay at home wife was more desirable for women than working in office and factories.

yeah that is one truth
bieng a stay at home wife was actually a progression from back breaking famine work

 

[emeraldglass]

According to wikipedia



So according to feminist theory, that men being leaders and women being caretakers is not a biological but social. Conspired by men to keep power away from women??

@slop slinger @mogger123 @Crusile enlighten me on what really is patriarchy?

@Aypo129 @jerking off in Lidl

Patriarchy is a social system, wherein males enjoy all the powers, control, and authority, and women are given subordinate roles. At least that's how the feminists would describe it, in reality patriarchy is just a reflection of the natural fact that a man has a leadership role and a woman a more nurturing role.

 

[khvirgin]

Because they have been fed this idea of feminism since they were kids. From family to friends to school to internet to work.

Plus nowadays the men are deadbeat and don't want responsibility unlike the men of past so women really don't feel secure with men being in-charge like they used to.

In old days they had their own support system which now have been replaced by feminism. Humans want community and with the erosion of traditional society and religion the only community young women has is feminist circles.


Many women atleast the poor were never stay at home wives. They generally did part time jobs in farms or as maids or as caretakers but not something really challenging of their abilities.

But being a stay at home wife was more desirable for women than working in office and factories.

Ok but lets talk about now.
Having a career give women
1) a purpose (according to them)
2) economic freedom, meaning that you wouldnt depend on a man

 

[Deleted member 23100]

@David Rothschild i dont understand the emoji, are you confused? i can try to explain better but id have to find those info again

 

[Deleted member 17872]

@David Rothschild i dont understand the emoji, are you confused? i can try to explain better but id have to find those info again

Explain in detail especially this

feminism as in frankfurt script is merely the byproduct of the indocrination that the mode-of-thought or 'history' itself must be taught as 'oppressors vs oppressed' -

Are you saying that franfurt school devoped feminism was a result of the frankfurt school all encompassing theory of history as oppressors vs oppressed or that frankfurt school wanted to teach history to the massess as oppressors vs oppressed?

 

[autistic_tendencies]

I hate this stupid word
Cringe

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Ok but lets talk about now.
Having a career give women
1) a purpose (according to them)

Before that they a much stronger puropse that was family and religion and tradition.

Most people men or women don't do work out of some purpose. Most people don't really find any purpose in their work. They just do it to make their ends meet. Kind of like robots just to wake up another day and work.

2) economic freedom, meaning that you wouldnt depend on a man

most women like most people still don't have any economic freedom. Inequality and inflation is at the highest. Now instead of depending on their husband they are dependent on the capitalistic state which unlike their husband doesn't have any emotional connection to them. Not only that but women are poorer than women. Women are underrepresented in stem and generally do meme jobs. Women aren't biologically built to do the same work as men.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/basic-facts-women-poverty/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox

I get it that the past thing wasn't better and women needed some economic freedom but feminism hasn't helped women achieve economic freedom they instead have just made them the slaves of the capitalistic elite.

 

[Deleted member 23100]

Explain in detail especially this

Are you saying that franfurt school devoped feminism was a result of the frankfurt school all encompassing theory of history as oppressors vs oppressed or that frankfurt school wanted to teach history to the massess as oppressors vs oppressed?

i meant that, history as they teach it, has the 'oppressor vs oppressed' mode-of-thought, and this is by intention - and it isn't specific to gender (feminism) it's anything. race is taught that way a lot too when it was never necessary. obviously if you are reading history you might think 'ah, so this race ruled another race' but why do they highlight this and why it's pushed by default? also if you think, say, hm 'x race is superior' ok, maybe that race is superior, but why's the specific wording choosen for it as Oppressive? or for the other as 'Oppressed'? think about that for awhile

language aspects a lot of subtle cues in the mind of the people, it's very important to be aware of this, it's like Magic. they rarely [if never] portray men in good light either. the way i see it as in an realistic way, i think women were a protected class in the 'patriarchy' (and atill are) - they never had to do dirty jobs, such as those in mine or constructions, a lot of dangerous jobs never select role to this day either, they also never had to go to Wars (maybe to be in the medical class idk) and they always had their simps or 'knights' - there isn't much difference really

basically to your question, it's both

 

[Deleted member 23100]

found it

Oppressors–oppressed distinction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Deconstructing Critical Theory: Oppressed and Oppressor

In this post, I explain critical theory's focus on the oppressor and oppressed in a society and its relation to group identity.

www.holisticapologetics.com

Critical Theory (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

 

[Deleted member 17872]

i meant that, history as they teach it, has the 'oppressor vs oppressed' mode-of-thought, and this is by intention - and it isn't specific to gender (feminism) it's anything. race is taught that way a lot too when it was never necessary. obviously if you are reading history you might think 'ah, so this race ruled another race' but why do they highlight this and why it's pushed by default? also if you think, say, hm 'x race is superior' ok, maybe that race is superior, but why's the specific wording choosen for it as Oppressive? or for the other as 'Oppressed'? think about that for awhile

language aspects a lot of subtle cues in the mind of the people, it's very important to be aware of this, it's like Magic. they rarely [if never] portray men in good light either. the way i see it as in an realistic way, i think women were a protected class in the 'patriarchy' (and atill are) - they never had to do dirty jobs, such as those in mine or constructions, a lot of dangerous jobs never select role to this day either, they also never had to go to Wars (maybe to be in the medical class idk) and they always had their simps or 'knights' - there isn't much difference really

basically to your question, it's both

I don't think women are the protected class. More women live in poverty than men. Elites just use gender wars to divide the masses.

 

[Deleted member 23100]

also jfl ofc hes there

 

[Deleted member 23100]

I don't think women are the protected class. More women live in poverty than men. Elites just use gender wars to divide the masses.

tbh i've rarely seen a woman a homeless person (at least in my country.) men have a higher perc% of millionaires and billionaires but doesnt mean much if we range to both extremities lol

 

[Deleted member 17872]

tbh i've rarely seen a woman a homeless person (at least in my country.) men have a higher perc% of millionaires and billionaires but doesnt mean much if we range to both extremities lol

In the United States, more women than men live in poverty. According to U.S. Census Bureau data, of the 38.1 million people living in poverty in 2018, 56 percent—or 21.4 million—were women.*1

The Basic Facts About Women in Poverty

Women, especially women of color, in the United States are more likely to live in poverty than men, and they need robust, targeted solutions to ensure their long-term economic security.

www.americanprogress.org

 

[Deleted member 25190]

Yin=Matriarchy
Yang=Patriarchy

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Yin=Matriarchy
Yang=Patriarchy

Dumbest comment in the thread. Please edit your comment for the sake of our IQ.

 

[Deleted member 23100]

In the United States, more women than men live in poverty. According to U.S. Census Bureau data, of the 38.1 million people living in poverty in 2018, 56 percent—or 21.4 million—were women.*1

The Basic Facts About Women in Poverty

Women, especially women of color, in the United States are more likely to live in poverty than men, and they need robust, targeted solutions to ensure their long-term economic security.

www.americanprogress.org

a lot of those are also unmarried single mothers who want to (unjustifiably) leech off the system - again homeless people i see are all mostly males