what surgery? Already had rhinoplasty + chin filler

[lost-obligation]

I’m 19 in college but I’m working to save up money for jaw surgery with Ramirei hopefully by the time I’m 21. I’ve already had a consultation and he plan to get a trimax and maybe another rhinoplasty. Also heard that he can do some sort of gonial widening which is definitely something I would need. Any surgery that could lower my eyebrows and make them more symmetrical? Also get rid of my eyebags?

 

[JohnDoe]

post before and after, what is this? greycel

 

[RetaRetaReta]

gonial and cheek filler

 

[lost-obligation]

post before and after, what is this? greycel

Before ain’t matter. Rhinoplasty already done im just trying to see what I can do from here not how I look now compared to before

 

[JohnDoe]

Before ain’t matter. Rhinoplasty already done im just trying to see what I can do from here not how I look now compared to before

You still have a big nose, nice rhinoplasty

 

[lost-obligation]

You still have a big nose, nice rhinoplasty

Which is why I’m getting another one. Think the projection from the side should be brought down? Or just an alar base reduction and more cartilage taken out of the tip to make it less bulbous from the front

 

[Kylo]

You forgot the rest of your jaw… chin projection means nothing if your ramus and mandibular body is subpar. You need a ramus and mandible to compliment your chin…

Also work on your neck, it is too thin. No man should have a neck that’s not at least 16in thick.

 

[J3nnn3r]

ur midface is pretty flat

supraorbital implants or fat grafting, will also fix eyebags.

also should do fat grafting/fillers/geniplasty to fix chin recession, it's more obvious now since ur rhino projected ur nose.

 

[nickkkk]

infra implants cuz you got L midface support

 

[lost-obligation]

You forgot the rest of your jaw… chin projection means nothing if your ramus and mandibular body is subpar. You need a ramus and mandible to compliment your chin…

Also work on your neck, it is too thin. No man should have a neck that’s not at least 16in thick.

What do you mean rest of your jaw? I said planning on getting double jaw surgery after I save money

ur midface is pretty flat
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supraorbital implants or fat grafting, will also fix eyebags.

also should do fat grafting/fillers/geniplasty to fix chin recession, it's more obvious now since ur rhino projected ur nose.

my nose is not more projected than before. It is actually less because i had a dorsal hump removed

 

[Kylo]

What do you mean rest of your jaw? I said planning on getting double jaw surgery after I save money

The rest of the area that’s behind your chin.

 

[lost-obligation]

The rest of the area that’s behind your chin.View attachment 4311145

Yeah but won’t double jaw surgery + gonial widening help with that? Is there anything else I’m missing for my jaw? I’ve heard bad things about jaw implants from a lot of people and filler is expensive long term

 

[Kylo]

Yeah but won’t double jaw surgery + gonial widening help with that? Is there anything else I’m missing for my jaw? I’ve heard bad things about jaw implants from a lot of people and filler is expensive long term

It will but expect conservative results w jaw surgery.

With jaw implants, you have to get right on the first go, a lot of guys don’t largely because they’re clueless about what makes for a good jaw…

It’s Not this:

Fillers may be expensive long term, but they’re generally a lot superior to both in terms of producing great results real time under control

 

[Nardicus101]

ur midface is pretty flat
View attachment 4310515
supraorbital implants or fat grafting, will also fix eyebags.

also should do fat grafting/fillers/geniplasty to fix chin recession, it's more obvious now since ur rhino projected ur nose.

Too much

He does not need a suparorbital implants honestly

fat graphing is good idea, though I did notice he has some lower sclera show. so opting for a Canthoplexy (Not canthoplasty) will solve that issue.
Example:

As you can see here, he sclera show went down a whole lot just from a simple less invasive procedure that only has a 3- 5 day recovery time with a far less botch rate. (The botch rates come from people exaggerating the messurments of there tilt n so on, not the surgeon)

He does need Jaw surgery but I think he is well aware of that.
(Double jaw surgery would suffice) ------> I say this cause this would help out his zygo area due it lacking projection and gonials lacking projecting as well thus giving him this soft feminine look almost lacking dimorphism, also he has a longer face shape almost while lacking width, which is a result on low jaw/zygo projection which the procedure would fix)

Light brown colored contacts with some ordinary lash serum paired with a canothoplexy n some hair cut that covers a tad bit less of his forehead to show off the thick eyebrows that are already posivley tiled.

His EYE area would be striking, almost rival Sean o pry ngl if he where to do all of this

One thing I did notice though, is he got chin filler, idk why he did this when he could legit get a genio in Mexico for under $1k
(looks better more cheap, and last way fucking longer )

 

[Nardicus101]

gonial and cheek filler

Cheek filler has a high migration rate than other area, would not recommed, some have reported they lost there hollow jaw look due to filler migrating down into the cheeks thus making them look puffy, and require more maintenance with the fact you have to keep adding it to keep the look which = a more higher chance or probability of more of the filler migrating down

 

[lost-obligation]

Too much

He does not need a suparorbital implants honestly

fat graphing is good idea, though I did notice he has some lower sclera show. so opting for a Canthoplexy (Not canthoplasty) will solve that issue.
Example:

View attachment 4311405

As you can see here, he sclera show went down a whole lot just from a simple less invasive procedure that only has a 3- 5 day recovery time with a far less botch rate. (The botch rates come from people exaggerating the messurments of there tilt n so on, not the surgeon)

He does need Jaw surgery but I think he is well aware of that.
(Double jaw surgery would suffice) ------> I say this cause this would help out his zygo area due it lacking projection and gonials lacking projecting as well thus giving him this soft feminine look almost lacking dimorphism, also he has a longer face shape almost while lacking width, which is a result on low jaw/zygo projection which the procedure would fix)

Light brown colored contacts with some ordinary lash serum paired with a canothoplexy n some hair cut that covers a tad bit less of his forehead to show off the thick eyebrows that are already posivley tiled.

His EYE area would be striking, almost rival Sean o pry ngl if he where to do all of this

One thing I did notice though, is he got chin filler, idk why he did this when he could legit get a genio in Mexico for under $1k
(looks better more cheap, and last way fucking longer )

Is there any surgery to lower (specifically the outer edges of) my eyebrows? Maybe Botox? Ive already talked to Dr Rameiri about a DJS + genio plan but what specifically should I do about my gonials? That’s a big issue for me also. I’ve seen in other post he did some sort of gonial widening (don’t really know what the “widening” consists of) and the results looked good. I also only did one syringe of chin filler at the time of rhinoplasty just to see how it was before genio later

 

[Nardicus101]

Is there any surgery to lower (specifically the outer edges of) my eyebrows? Maybe Botox? Ive already talked to Dr Rameiri about a DJS + genio plan but what specifically should I do about my gonials? That’s a big issue for me also. I’ve seen in other post he did some sort of gonial widening (don’t really know what the “widening” consists of) and the results looked good. I also only did one syringe of chin filler at the time of rhinoplasty just to see how it was before genio later

Too high of a risk lowkey in my person opinion, yea you can do that but when it comes to genial widening, its very easy to over due it and you need to go to someone who has an excellent track record.

I dont know about the procedure to lower your eyebrows but that sound invasive and dont know how much a botox will help with that.

I don't know surgeon your referencing or his work/pics so I couldn't tell you

 

[lost-obligation]

Too high of a risk lowkey in my person opinion, yea you can do that but when it comes to genial widening, its very easy to over due it and you need to go to someone who has an excellent track record.

I dont know about the procedure to lower your eyebrows but that sound invasive and dont know how much a botox will help with that.

I don't know surgeon your referencing or his work/pics so I couldn't tell you

Mb I meant ramus widening

 

[J3nnn3r]

What do you mean rest of your jaw? I said planning on getting double jaw surgery after I save money

my nose is not more projected than before. It is actually less because i had a dorsal hump removed

damn, then that's def something to fix, it's the thing i notice the most abt ur side profile besides eyes

 

[lost-obligation]

damn, then that's def something to fix, it's the thing i notice the most abt ur side profile besides eyes

Really? I specifically asked to keep my nose projected at the tip because I feel like it will make my face look even flatter and more elongated if I have my nose less projected.

 

[J3nnn3r]

Too much

He does not need a suparorbital implants honestly

fat graphing is good idea, though I did notice he has some lower sclera show. so opting for a Canthoplexy (Not canthoplasty) will solve that issue.
Example:

View attachment 4311405

As you can see here, he sclera show went down a whole lot just from a simple less invasive procedure that only has a 3- 5 day recovery time with a far less botch rate. (The botch rates come from people exaggerating the messurments of there tilt n so on, not the surgeon)

He does need Jaw surgery but I think he is well aware of that.
(Double jaw surgery would suffice) ------> I say this cause this would help out his zygo area due it lacking projection and gonials lacking projecting as well thus giving him this soft feminine look almost lacking dimorphism, also he has a longer face shape almost while lacking width, which is a result on low jaw/zygo projection which the procedure would fix)

Light brown colored contacts with some ordinary lash serum paired with a canothoplexy n some hair cut that covers a tad bit less of his forehead to show off the thick eyebrows that are already posivley tiled.

His EYE area would be striking, almost rival Sean o pry ngl if he where to do all of this

One thing I did notice though, is he got chin filler, idk why he did this when he could legit get a genio in Mexico for under $1k
(looks better more cheap, and last way fucking longer )

I agree he has great potential for eye area. the pic u used is godly ascension.
they had a lot of work done tho:
-lower eyelid retraction, canthoplasty, infraorbital rim silicone implant, orbital decompression bulging eye surgery, and upper eyelid filler injection, which is a shit ton.

Fat grafts, r good but only for volume deficincies. He almost no midface projection, which infra implants would be great for, obviously more invasive tho. his byzygomatic to bigonial ratio is decent so i wouldn't recommed implants for that, infras n possible graft would address it pretty much.

For the work he had done it left a bit to be desired, especially the chin filler which hasn't address a recessed facial convexity.
Looks pretty good tho for only 2 minimally invasive procedures.

 

[J3nnn3r]

Really? I specifically asked to keep my nose projected at the tip because I feel like it will make my face look even flatter and more elongated if I have my nose less projected.

nah dw, not that noticable + it's a good result. I think it's just since the procedure was only for ur dorsal hump.
If you're getting a second rhino plasty ask for a bulbous tip reduction and possibly silicone/filler for ur nasolfrontal angle(pic below), that'll help w ur eyes being a lil shallow set, and if the result is good u can just avoid excessive work on ur eye area

 

[lost-obligation]

nah dw, not that noticable + it's a good result. I think it's just since the procedure was only for ur dorsal hump.
If you're getting a second rhino plasty ask for a bulbous tip reduction and possibly silicone/filler for ur nasolfrontal angle(pic below), that'll help w ur eyes being a lil shallow set, and if the result is good u can just avoid excessive work on ur eye area

i did ask for a bulbous tip reduction but it’s been a year and I still have weird swelling so sometimes it’s super bulbous. Steroid shots helped temporarily but the tips getting bigger again. This photo was like 5-6 months post op after my first round of steroid shots. Idk why it keeps swelling back up so I’m probably gonna end up needing a revision.

 

[J3nnn3r]

i did ask for a bulbous tip reduction but it’s been a year and I still have weird swelling so sometimes it’s super bulbous. Steroid shots helped temporarily but the tips getting bigger again. This photo was like 5-6 months post op after my first round of steroid shots. Idk why it keeps swelling back up so I’m probably gonna end up needing a revision.

yeah, unfortunately steroid shots never worked for me. They say swelling can be expected for up to 2 years post op, but hearing that it's getting bigger is weird. Could depend on the surgical skill or the technique they used for ur reduction, sometimes the suturing is subpar and it's prone to giving out a bit

 

[lost-obligation]

yeah, unfortunately steroid shots never worked for me. They say swelling can be expected for up to 2 years post op, but hearing that it's getting bigger is weird. Could depend on the surgical skill or the technique they used for ur reduction, sometimes the suturing is subpar and it's prone to giving out a bit

It’s not necessarily getting bigger. The steroid shots seem to temporarily help for 2 months and then it gets bigger again. I had my second round 1-2 months ago and it didn’t get as small as it did after the round of shots and now seems to be swelling up again

 

[xantrooper]

I’m 19 in college but I’m working to save up money for jaw surgery with Ramirei hopefully by the time I’m 21. I’ve already had a consultation and he plan to get a trimax and maybe another rhinoplasty. Also heard that he can do some sort of gonial widening which is definitely something I would need. Any surgery that could lower my eyebrows and make them more symmetrical? Also get rid of my eyebags?

nigga stop making me download ur video

 

[xantrooper]

I’m 19 in college but I’m working to save up money for jaw surgery with Ramirei hopefully by the time I’m 21. I’ve already had a consultation and he plan to get a trimax and maybe another rhinoplasty. Also heard that he can do some sort of gonial widening which is definitely something I would need. Any surgery that could lower my eyebrows and make them more symmetrical? Also get rid of my eyebags?

how much did ramieri quote you though and honestly i dont think you really need a rhinoplasty. ramus widening or implants tho yeah

 

[lost-obligation]

how much did ramieri quote you though and honestly i dont think you really need a rhinoplasty. ramus widening or implants tho yeah

I don’t remember it was like 7 months ago. I think it was around 16k Euros for DJS +genio but he recommend getting braces before.

 

[Nardicus101]

That’s actually

I don’t remember it was like 7 months ago. I think it was around 16k Euros for DJS +genio but he recommend getting braces before.

a reasonable price tbh if his work is that good
Since your going for a DJS it’s dumb to factor in price cause the surgeon is more important than the price though could you link him so I can see some of the work he’s done and assess from there ?

 

[xantrooper]

I don’t remember it was like 7 months ago. I think it was around 16k Euros for DJS +genio but he recommend getting braces before.

how come? whats ur bite like?

 

[lost-obligation]

how come? whats ur bite like?

My bite is ok. I had Invisalign before when I was like 15-16. I don’t really remember why. He did say that the braces were optional but it would lead to better more natural results

 

[lost-obligation]

That’s actually

a reasonable price tbh if his work is that good
Since your going for a DJS it’s dumb to factor in price cause the surgeon is more important than the price though could you link him so I can see some of the work he’s done and assess from there ?

Here is his instagram

He is pretty conservative but I’ve seen almost no botched cases when researching and I’m not willing to risk being botched. I don’t need crazy advancements anyways and I think as long as I get ramus widening it will be ok. Honestly my hyoid is probably one of my biggest issues but there’s nothing I can really do about that except a deep plane neck lift which wohld maybe help a little but I’m too young for that and it’s expensive

 

[xantrooper]

Here is his instagram

He is pretty conservative but I’ve seen almost no botched cases when researching and I’m not willing to risk being botched. I don’t need crazy advancements anyways and I think as long as I get ramus widening it will be ok. Honestly my hyoid is probably one of my biggest issues but there’s nothing I can really do about that except a deep plane neck lift which wohld maybe help a little but I’m too young for that and it’s expensive

does he do implants at all i remember people saying pagnoni was better for it but idr if ramieri even does them

 

[lost-obligation]

does he do implants at all i remember people saying pagnoni was better for it but idr if ramieri even does them

He does do implants. He can take custom implants also. I’ve definitely seen that panini is better for implants though. He actually recommended implants over jaw surgery for my case because he said my recession isn’t that bad (honestly it’s probably more my hyoid) I’ve heard so many bad things about implants. I’d rather look “uglier” than look uncanny. Knowing my face I think it would be very hard to come up with an implant design that would look good and natural from all angles.

 

[Nardicus101]

Here is his instagram

He is pretty conservative but I’ve seen almost no botched cases when researching and I’m not willing to risk being botched. I don’t need crazy advancements anyways and I think as long as I get ramus widening it will be ok. Honestly my hyoid is probably one of my biggest issues but there’s nothing I can really do about that except a deep plane neck lift which wohld maybe help a little but I’m too young for that and it’s expensive

If your goal is to get ride of the hyoid, you should have went with a sliding genioplasty instead of chin filler.

I asked Chat GBT, out of all options revolving the chin (Chin implant, Genioplasty, and filler), saying in terms of making it so the hyoid is less protrusive and less noticeable thus giving a better and leaner appearance, the Sliding Genioplasty would be the best route.

Here is an example of someone who got a sliding genio done and lets see how much there hyoid has decreased:

It has decreased a tad bit, but note that they are other things that go to into how much of the outer skin neck crease you will have other than just the chin though the chin can make a difference for sure

 

[lost-obligation]

Yup i

If your goal is to get ride of the hyoid, you should have went with a sliding genioplasty instead of chin filler.

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I asked Chat GBT, out of all options revolving the chin (Chin implant, Genioplasty, and filler), saying in terms of making it so the hyoid is less protrusive and less noticeable thus giving a better and leaner appearance, the Sliding Genioplasty would be the best route.

View attachment 4312185

Here is an example of someone who got a sliding genio done and lets see how much there hyoid has decreased:
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It has decreased a tad bit, but note that they are other things that go to into how much of the outer skin neck crease you will have other than just the chin though the chin can make a difference for sure

Yeah that is my plan. I want to do it at the same time as DJS though so I’m gonna wait a year or 2 until I can save up money because I’m still in college