What the fuck do I even have (short face+ downgrowth?)

[MrMatumbo]

I am asking because from the front my jaw looks narrow and short and from the side it's also short but downswung, I know it's not my ramus or gonions Because when I tilt my head slightly up suddenly I have a ramus and I have a wide jaw and when I took a picture of my mandible from under I don't have shitty gonions so my theory is that I have a fucked up kind of recession where my true jaw is hidden and recessed and my maxilla is somewhat Arched too, the image of the skull is how I imagine I would look like under an X-ray (I have deepbite can't even see my lower teeth when smiling and when I smile like an autist I only see half of them)

Do I need CCW, CW or just advancement ? I don't know anymore because I heard CCW makes your face more compact which would make me worse, CW would give me more downgrowth and when I just advance myself on morphs I look like an elf

 

[MrMatumbo]

Bump

 

[yussimania]

@geenk worg

JFL at him larping lip incompetence

 

[MrMatumbo]

@geenk worg

JFL at him larping lip incompetence

My bad, this is without the larp

 

[yussimania]

My bad, this is without the larp

You're fine you don't need surgery at all

Bro making up new growth patterns downgrown short face lol what

You also look quite young how old are you?

 

[mltn2mtn]

You're fine you don't need surgery at all

you seem pretty blue pilled this is def a ltn side profile that could use jaw surgery

 

[MrMatumbo]

You're fine you don't need surgery at all

Bro making up new growth patterns downgrown short face lol what

You also look quite young how old are you?

Nah I don't want to make stuff up I just don't find any examples of people having my problem, also 16 but I look too young