whats my ipd?

[adry]

 

[VampyrMaxx]

your analysis is wrong, if OP gets it measured with a pupilometer or similar device, his IPD will be like how I mention above

It's not trust me bro; you still havent brought me evidence that one feature's size can affect the perception of another

In fact I gave you direct photo evidence and 2 threads explaining my logic, you will have to read it longer to fully grasp the idea of what im saying bhai

@Daddy's Home thoughts?

 

[Orka]

your analysis is wrong, if OP gets it measured with a pupilometer or similar device, his IPD will be like how I mention above

It's not trust me bro; you still havent brought me evidence that one feature's size can affect the perception of another

In fact I gave you direct photo evidence and 2 threads explaining my logic, you will have to read it longer to fully grasp the idea of what im saying bhai

"your analysis is wrong"

There is no other way of getting a millimeter measurment from a photo without taking something relative in account. Why the fuck would somebody go to a pupilometer for this?

You claimed the average human eyeball is 24mm, Incorrect ( Literally proven by the analysis )

Not to mention, how is the analysis wrong? You completely ignored it both times and just laughed at me for coming to the 77mm conclusion which came about because of YOUR method.

" I gave you direct photo evidence ", evidence of absolutely fuckall, you said "these two look similar, they must be identical"

THE IMAGE YOU GAVE ME HAS A DIFFERENT ESR TOO?? LOL???

107PX VS 116PX

 

[Orka]

You are just incapable of admitting you're wrong. This will damage your future

 

[BigBallsLarry]

....the measurments, compared, to eachother. Also known as..... a ratio.

wtf are you talking about, you did fail, any attempt at recreating your absolutely RANDOM guess failed, I compared it to your insane statement that every human eyeball is 24mm, you failed at that. I compared it to larry's estimate that every iris is 12mm, he failed at that (you're included in that failure)

In no way, apart from an eyeball image guess, did you prove you're right, at all.

This is literally "trust me bro" logic

Drawing lines, calculating them VS just intuition

I'll do the measurements at home when i come back (in 20 minutes or so)

The way you did them is wrong and it's the reason you got 77mm

Realistically @VampyrMaxx's 67mm measurement is pretty good from what i could check on the phone lol

 

[Orka]

I'll do the measurements at home when i come back (in 20 minutes or so)

The way you did them is wrong and it's the reason you got 77mm

Realistically @VampyrMaxx's 67mm measurement is pretty good from what i could check on the phone lol

How are you planning on measuring a mm measurment with nothing relative to it?

 

[BigBallsLarry]

How are you planning on measuring a mm measurment with nothing relative to it?

I'll show ya

 

[VampyrMaxx]

"your analysis is wrong"

There is no other way of getting a millimeter measurment from a photo without taking something relative in account. Why the fuck would somebody go to a pupilometer for this?

You claimed the average human eyeball is 24mm, Incorrect ( Literally proven by the analysis )

Not to mention, how is the analysis wrong? You completely ignored it both times and just laughed at me for coming to the 77mm conclusion which came about because of YOUR method.

" I gave you direct photo evidence ", evidence of absolutely fuckall, you said "these two look similar, they must be identical"

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THE IMAGE YOU GAVE ME HAS A DIFFERENT ESR TOO?? LOL???

107PX VS 116PX

Your methods are unreliable, measuring by photo is unreliable. You have to eyeball when it comes to cases like these because even 2 pixels missing will affect the measurements.

Pupilometer is the device they use to measure IPD. Thats how I found out I have a 61mm IPD and need to get OBO to get to 65mm IPD.

You are just incapable of admitting you're wrong. This will damage your future

Some random guy told you ratios are what determine beauty and you just ran with it. Jfl youre the ome who hasnt done in depth analysis, i give reasons in my thread why.

If youre so confident respond in my thread and debunk what I said. But you wont be able to.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

I'll do the measurements at home when i come back (in 20 minutes or so)

The way you did them is wrong and it's the reason you got 77mm

Realistically @VampyrMaxx's 67mm measurement is pretty good from what i could check on the phone lol

If you have a method plz share in pms or something, ive been looking for an accurate method other than eyeballing for a while (if you dont mind)

 

[Orka]

Your methods are unreliable, measuring by photo is unreliable. You have to eyeball when it comes to cases like these because even 2 pixels missing will affect the measurements.

Pupilometer is the device they use to measure IPD. Thats how I found out I have a 61mm IPD and need to get OBO to get to 65mm IPD.

If measuring by photo is unreliable then eyeballing is aswell.

I literally compared the morph you gave, and the guys eyeball, and they did not line up.

What other evidence do you want? Seriously, you eyeballed it incorrectly.

Some random guy told you ratios are what determine beauty and you just ran with it. Jfl youre the ome who hasnt done in depth analysis, i give reasons in my thread why.

If youre so confident respond in my thread and debunk what I said. But you wont be able to.

You look like the guy you're talking about in this case, you tagged some 21cel asking to explain more which would imply you got this idea from him. It's incorrect.

Do i seriously have to go through a 4 page GPT garbage thread to try to convince somebody who can't admit they're wrong, that they're wrong? it wont happen.

 

[Orka]

If you have a method plz share in pms or something, ive been looking for an accurate method other than eyeballing for a while (if you dont mind)

Like, big nigga

This is YOUR comparison, it is inaccurate & incorrect, YOU are wrong because YOUR COMPARISON, was not an accurate one.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Like, big nigga
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This is YOUR comparison, it is inaccurate & incorrect, YOU are wrong because YOUR COMPARISON, was not an accurate one.

Innacurate scaling

 

[VampyrMaxx]

If measuring by photo is unreliable then eyeballing is aswell.

I literally compared the morph you gave, and the guys eyeball, and they did not line up.

What other evidence do you want? Seriously, you eyeballed it incorrectly.

You look like the guy you're talking about in this case, you tagged some 21cel asking to explain more which would imply you got this idea from him. It's incorrect.

Do i seriously have to go through a 4 page GPT garbage thread to try to convince somebody who can't admit they're wrong, that they're wrong? it wont happen.

Ask RSM if youre so skeptical man...

 

[Orka]

Innacurate scaling

Their noses are indistinguishable

I just made sure by comparing their irises, they are the same size.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

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Their noses are indistinguishable
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I just made sure by comparing their irises, they are the same size.

lens distortion and image scaling has to be accurate to the PIXEL, holy fucking shit bro

 

[Orka]

Ask RSM if youre so skeptical man...

Am I saying IPD is a garbage measurment? NO, I'm saying you can't measure it off an image with nothing to compare it to

You are an absolute idiot, to be frank, you cannot accept "defeat" in a debate when you are completely incorrect, you've ignored points that I've made and just redirected me to your GPT-SLOP thread about "debunking ratios" after listening to some 21cel talk about it.

You keep bringing up others to save you because I've already disproven you countless times, and you just keep saying "Your method is inaccurate" "Inaccurate scaling" and this and that and blablablabla forever

 

[Orka]

lens distortion and image scaling has to be accurate to the PIXEL, holy fucking shit bro

You do realize if the lens distortion was significant it would also distort your eyeball estimate aswell right? You don't have superpowers to see past distortion

 

[VampyrMaxx]

Am I saying IPD is a garbage measurment? NO, I'm saying you can't measure it off an image with nothing to compare it to

You are an absolute idiot, to be frank, you cannot accept "defeat" in a debate when you are completely incorrect, you've ignored points that I've made and just redirected me to your GPT-SLOP thread about "debunking ratios" after listening to some 21cel talk about it.

You keep bringing up others to save you because I've already disproven you countless times, and you just keep saying "Your method is inaccurate" "Inaccurate scaling" and this and that and blablablabla forever

Lol stop saying its GPT; i only used it to rewrite my essay bcz my wording and formatting is bad

 

[VampyrMaxx]

@RealSurgerymax Can you plzzzz tell us OPs IPD

 

[Orka]

@RealSurgerymax Can you plzzzz tell us OPs IPD

This isn't even a debate, you're just completely wrong, even google says you can measure something from an image but only if you have a scale, there is no scale in OP's image. This isn't a debate, you are just blatantly spreading misinformation

If OP had a ruler, or an object with known reference then this would be a different conversation, but you completely eyeballed it based off of "oh well it looks similar to this"

The "Flawed" method I did was the universally accepted way of measuring objects.

You are incorrect, this isn't a subjective case. You are objectively wrong, I can't believe I've wasted 20+ posts on this.

Why do you think people put "pennies" to scale when asking for measurments, why do you think the "Banana for scale" meme even got popular?

because you need a reference object.

 

[VampyrMaxx]

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This isn't even a debate, you're just completely wrong, even google says you can measure something from an image but only if you have a scale, there is no scale in OP's image. This isn't a debate, you are just blatantly spreading misinformation

If OP had a ruler, or an object with known reference then this would be a different conversation, but you completely eyeballed it based off of "oh well it looks similar to this"
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The "Flawed" method I did was the universally accepted way of measuring objects.

You are incorrect, this isn't a subjective case. You are objectively wrong, I can't believe I've wasted 20+ posts on this.

Why do you think people put "pennies" to scale when asking for measurments, why do you think the "Banana for scale" meme even got popular?

because you need a reference object.

The reference is his eyeball. And then you eyeball the measurements after hours of analysis.

@RealSurgerymax ill just ask you when i consult boyo

 

[Orka]

The reference is his eyeball. And then you eyeball the measurements after hours of analysis.

@RealSurgerymax ill just ask you when i consult boyo

YOU FUCKING

YO
AREYOU RETARDED

I USED HIS EYEBALL AS A REFERENCE, AND IT DID NOT COME OUT TO ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR MEASURMENT

ARE YOU EVEN READING THE SHIT IM WRITING???????????

I CANNOT WITH YOU

 

[VampyrMaxx]

YOU FUCKING

YO
AREYOU RETARDED

I USED HIS EYEBALL AS A REFERENCE, AND IT DID NOT COME OUT TO ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR MEASURMENT

ARE YOU EVEN READING THE SHIT IM WRITING???????????

I CANNOT WITH YOU

HELLLLLOOO IVE TOLD YOU THE SCALING YOURW USING IS INACCURATE YOU CANT PINPOINT IN PHOTOSHOP OR WHATEVER DIRECTLY WHERE HIS EYEBALL STARTS AND ENDS, EVEN 2 PIXELS OFF TARGET MAKES A DIFFERENCE THATS WHY I SAID YOU HAVE TO EYEBALL THE MEASURWMENT USING MY THREAD AND HIS IPD QPPEARS TO BE AROUND 68MM I THINK IM QT THE POINT I WILL LOTERALLY BUY OP A PUPILOMETER HOLY FUCKING SHIT

 

[Insomnia]

If you have a pencil dick (Long, no girth)

 

[Orka]

HELLLLLOOO IVE TOLD YOU THE SCALING YOURW USING IS INACCURATE YOU CANT PINPOINT IN PHOTOSHOP OR WHATEVER DIRECTLY WHERE HIS EYEBALL STARTS AND ENDS, EVEN 2 PIXELS OFF TARGET MAKES A DIFFERENCE THATS WHY I SAID YOU HAVE TO EYEBALL THE MEASURWMENT USING MY THREAD AND HIS IPD QPPEARS TO BE AROUND 68MM I THINK IM QT THE POINT I WILL LOTERALLY BUY OP A PUPILOMETER HOLY FUCKING SHIT

I MEASURED TWICE FROM DIFFERENT POINTS FOR THIS EXACT REASON

IF I START SHRINKING THE LINE TO MATCH YOUR RATIO, THEN THE LINE DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE HIS ENTIRE SCLERA

 

[VampyrMaxx]

I MEASURED TWICE FROM DIFFERENT POINTS FOR THIS EXACT REASON

IF I START SHRINKING THE LINE TO MATCH YOUR RATIO, THEN THE LINE DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE HIS ENTIRE SCLERA

Doesnt matter you need the exact starting point you fucking retard

so heres another example.

They scaled this Giants ratios in proportion with his eyeball. So he has decent proportions. Is he attractive? NO his skull is big. There exists a perfect cranium size proving that measurements matter. Combine with the logic from my thread you have a perfect beauty theory. @NZb6Air agreed with me btw

 

[VampyrMaxx]

@Orka Ill just ask rsm when i consult

 

[Orka]

Doesnt matter you need the exact starting point you fucking retard

so heres another example.

They scaled this Giants ratios in proportion with his eyeball. So he has decent proportions. Is he attractive? NO his skull is big. There exists a perfect cranium size proving that measurements matter. Combine with the logic from my thread you have a perfect beauty theory. @NZb6Air agreed with me btw

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The only logic you seem to have used so far is "[x] do something" "[x] agreed with me btw" when in reality when they'd see this conversation they'd laugh.

Using your 68mm placeholder as an objective truth (which you claim it to be), that would mean:

His Iris is: 10.6mm
His visible scleral width is: 25.8 mm

Do you know what this means? This means if your estimate of "every human has a 24mm eyeball width" was true, then just his scelra would already be bigger than the average eyeball.

This line is 24mm, which as you may have noticed, is smaller than his visible eyeball; let alone anything hiding behind his skin.

This is your logic, its not "scaled wrong" because its relative to YOUR measurment that YOU did. That is the base, if its wrong, then your measurment is wrong aswell. That's the objective truth

@Orka Ill just ask rsm when i consult

wtf are you gonna ask him? "does this guys IPD look 68mm?", its wide, yes, but you can't give a millimeter reference without a reference object.

 

[BigBallsLarry]

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If 45.5 px = 12 mm, then:

1 px = 12 / 45.5 mm
292.5 px = 292.5 × (12 / 45.5)

Compute:

12 / 45.5 ≈ 0.263736 mm per px
292.5 × 0.263736 ≈ 77.2 mm

292.5 px ≈ 77.2 mm

@adry measure your fucking ipd so we can settle this, go get a ruler and take another photo with it next to your face

His IPD is most likely ~70.8mm

It might not seem as that much because of his eye shape and medial canthus lenght, but the moment you see this image you'll understand...

IPD is a measurement of the measurement of the distance of the CENTER OF THE IRIS, his irises are far apart, and a lot so, even visually.

I measured both irises at the same zoom as his ipd, right one came out at 50.01px, right at exactly 49px, his IPD was 292px which is exactly what you got aswell. This is where i got the 70.8MM measurement

even if we take into further account the human error when measuring the distance is between 68mm-71mm, which is accurate from an eyeball perspective

I agree with @Orka tho.. this was torture - the more testing with this that i did the worse it became, even 1px error changed the ipd by 3-4mm. A 68-71mm range is perfect for OP imo (especially after redoing the measurmeents at different zoom levels and different tactics and always getting the same range of results)

Fortunatalely OP's photo is straight and has practically no angling (even though angling wouldn't change the IPD by more than 1mm aswell)

Still, just fucking use ratios man, knowledge of your IPD is completely useless, esr is better..

 

[Orka]

His IPD is most likely ~70.8mm

It might not seem as that much because of his eye shape and medial canthus lenght, but the moment you see this image you'll understand...

View attachment 4373581

IPD is a measurement of the measurement of the distance of the CENTER OF THE IRIS, his irises are far apart, and a lot so, even visually.

I measured both irises at the same zoom as his ipd, right one came out at 50.01px, right at exactly 49px, his IPD was 292px which is exactly what you got aswell. This is where i got the 70.8MM measurement

even if we take into further account the human error when measuring the distance is between 68mm-71mm, which is accurate from an eyeball perspective

I agree with @Orka tho.. this was torture - the more testing with this that i did the worse it became, even 1px error changed the ipd by 3-4mm. A 68-71mm range is perfect for OP imo (especially after redoing the measurmeents at different zoom levels and different tactics and always getting the same range of results)

Fortunatalely OP's photo is straight and has practically no angling (even though angling wouldn't change the IPD by more than 1mm aswell)

Still, just fucking use ratios man, knowledge of your IPD is completely useless, esr is better..

just eyeball it dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

watch him say your measurment was inaccurate and wrongly measured

ffs

 

[ybuyhgui]

Never began for us sub 6 inch girthcels

 

[BigBallsLarry]

just eyeball it dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

watch him say your measurment was inaccurate and wrongly measured

ffs

This entire autistic measuring shit is tiring, i just wanna go back to normal offtopic rotting

 

[adry]

The only logic you seem to have used so far is "[x] do something" "[x] agreed with me btw" when in reality when they'd see this conversation they'd laugh.

Using your 68mm placeholder as an objective truth (which you claim it to be), that would mean:

His Iris is: 10.6mm
His visible scleral width is: 25.8 mm

Do you know what this means? This means if your estimate of "every human has a 24mm eyeball width" was true, then just his scelra would already be bigger than the average eyeball.
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This line is 24mm, which as you may have noticed, is smaller than his visible eyeball; let alone anything hiding behind his skin.

This is your logic, its not "scaled wrong" because its relative to YOUR measurment that YOU did. That is the base, if its wrong, then your measurment is wrong aswell. That's the objective truth

wtf are you gonna ask him? "does this guys IPD look 68mm?", its wide, yes, but you can't give a millimeter reference without a reference object.

guys im sorry i just woke up , is my esr this bad? 0.48 . sorry im a grey i dont even understand what yall are talking about

 

[adry]

His IPD is most likely ~70.8mm

It might not seem as that much because of his eye shape and medial canthus lenght, but the moment you see this image you'll understand...

View attachment 4373581

IPD is a measurement of the measurement of the distance of the CENTER OF THE IRIS, his irises are far apart, and a lot so, even visually.

I measured both irises at the same zoom as his ipd, right one came out at 50.01px, right at exactly 49px, his IPD was 292px which is exactly what you got aswell. This is where i got the 70.8MM measurement

even if we take into further account the human error when measuring the distance is between 68mm-71mm, which is accurate from an eyeball perspective

I agree with @Orka tho.. this was torture - the more testing with this that i did the worse it became, even 1px error changed the ipd by 3-4mm. A 68-71mm range is perfect for OP imo (especially after redoing the measurmeents at different zoom levels and different tactics and always getting the same range of results)

Fortunatalely OP's photo is straight and has practically no angling (even though angling wouldn't change the IPD by more than 1mm aswell)

Still, just fucking use ratios man, knowledge of your IPD is completely useless, esr is better..

man js answer me my esr is this bad?

 

[Orka]

guys im sorry i just woke up , is my esr this bad? 0.48 . sorry im a grey i dont even understand what yall are talking about

no it's not, we were arguing about the process of measuring it

 

[Orka]

it's bad but not that bad lol

 

[adry]

it's bad but not that bad lol

i can still get to mtn right?

 

[FiendFiend]

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go back to watching faceIQ hoe ass nigga

 

[Cinnamon fan64]

your analysis is wrong, if OP gets it measured with a pupilometer or similar device, his IPD will be like how I mention above

It's not trust me bro; you still havent brought me evidence that one feature's size can affect the perception of another

In fact I gave you direct photo evidence and 2 threads explaining my logic, you will have to read it longer to fully grasp the idea of what im saying bhai

we have different skull sizes so the "ideal length" wont apply to everyone
ur supposed to compare lengths (ratio)
Example:

Both of their eye spacing look the same but the guy on the left has wider IPD then the right. his eyes are supposed to look more far set then the right but they look they same?? hmm
Now lets measure their ESR (Eye Separation Ratio)
Right guy ESR:

Left guy ESR:

Both have the same ESR and both of their eye spacing look the same
BUT both of their IPD's are not equal

@Orka

 

[AscendingHero]

@AscendingHero context here, I've been proving through online measurments that you cannot accurately measure something, and that ratios are more reliable

Vampyr claims measurments are better, gave a completely random estimate of OP's IPD, then I disproved him instantly by calculating the possible IPD's in MM using a pixel -> millimeter conversion, using average eyeball sizes and average pupil sizes as comparison.

I don't think his IPD is 77mm. But the fact that that's a result proves how stupid vampyr is to think you can get a measurment directly from an image.


^^^^

Yup lmao, iris scaling has some small relevance and viability depending on the context but they're so many variables, you don't judge something as important and down to the milimeter as eye spacing for a serious self estimation especially judging this off of pixels

Get a caliper and do it right

77 mm ipd? Even on a super wide skull, cro magnon, alienology physignomy that's still ridiculous man

The 9 Male IPD Tiers ( Based on Statistics )

IPD Range Tier < 57.5 mm Cyclops = Hypotelorism = 2SD Under Mean 57.5 mm – 60 mm Giga Narrow 60 mm – 62.5 mm Narrow 62.5 mm – 64 mm Below Average 64 mm – 66 mm Male Average = 64.67 mm 66 mm – 67.5 mm Above Average 67.5 mm – 70 mm Wide 70 mm – 72.5 mm Giga Wide > 72.5 mm...

looksmax.org

@adry

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Your PFL is pretty low too relative to your ICD, one of the reasons your ESR seems wider than it is, meso brachy skull, pretty wide, me personallly I would've guessed high 60s

Build up your neck, fix your liver and organ health, intake more bioavailable vitamin micronutrients esp. vitamin A, find a good hair dresser and debloat asap, fix those malar-buccinators over fat padding

 

[adry]

with my eye

Yup lmao, iris scaling has some small relevance and viability depending on the context but they're so many variables, you don't judge something as important and down to the milimeter as eye spacing for a serious self estimation especially judging this off of pixels

Get a caliper and do it right

77 mm ipd? Even on a super wide skull, cro magnon, alienology physignomy that's still ridiculous man

The 9 Male IPD Tiers ( Based on Statistics )

IPD Range Tier < 57.5 mm Cyclops = Hypotelorism = 2SD Under Mean 57.5 mm – 60 mm Giga Narrow 60 mm – 62.5 mm Narrow 62.5 mm – 64 mm Below Average 64 mm – 66 mm Male Average = 64.67 mm 66 mm – 67.5 mm Above Average 67.5 mm – 70 mm Wide 70 mm – 72.5 mm Giga Wide > 72.5 mm...

looksmax.org

@adry

Your PFL is pretty low too relative to your ICD, one of the reasons your ESR seems wider than it is, meso brachy skull, pretty wide, me personallly I would've guessed high 60s

Build up your neck, fix your liver and organ health, intake more bioavailable vitamin micronutrients esp. vitamin A, find a good hair dresser and debloat asap, fix those malar-buccinators over fat padding

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with my eyea area can i reach mtn or more?

 

[jaaba]

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Too far apart, now mark this reply as a solution by clicking the checkmark on the right

nevermind