whats the best cycle to run to avoid bloat

[gigachode]

just ran my first cycle of 250mg of Test c and 250mg of eq with 4iu of hgh for 4 months while maintaining and didn't experience too much bloat. I want to increase the dosages and am also thinking about adding in some anavar but not sure whats best.

 

[NorwoodVictim]

Depends how much money you have for compounds and ancilliaries but Tren, primo, var and technically Mast but i doubt youll need that. Mast is a purely aesthetic compund and wont build muscle at all, which is why i wouldn't recommend it but its worth listing. Add 2/3 in a safe and researched way and youll be good. Don't up HGH if youre concerned about bloat, even at 4 you can see it.

 

[gigachode]

Depends how much money you have for compounds and ancilliaries but Tren, primo, var and technically Mast but i doubt youll need that. Mast is a purely aesthetic compund and wont build muscle at all, which is why i wouldn't recommend it but its worth listing. Add 2/3 in a safe and researched way and youll be good. Don't up HGH if youre concerned about bloat, even at 4 you can see it.

ok so if im trying to put on more size and do a slight surplus which would you recommend and should i up the test and eq dosages. also money isnt an issue

 

[NorwoodVictim]

ok so if im trying to put on more size and do a slight surplus which would you recommend and should i up the test and eq dosages. also money isnt an issue

If you can be smart about it and money isnt an issue first buy all ancilliaries (DYOR i cbf to list them) for Test 500mg/week, 500-400eq/week, 4-5iu hgh, 40mg Tren ( Up dose if you react well and it isnt a looxmin, imo 100mg/week is highest you should go from friends experience with the compund but I will be trying soon so can let you know) and when you are leaner 25-50mg Anavar (12% bf or lower ideally to keep fullness and pumps). Any more than that is unessary even the Tren can be argued to be extra, depends if you trust yourself to be able to deal with its effects.

 

[gigachode]

If you can be smart about it and money isnt an issue first buy all ancilliaries (DYOR i cbf to list them) for Test 500mg/week, 500-400eq/week, 4-5iu hgh, 40mg Tren ( Up dose if you react well and it isnt a looxmin, imo 100mg/week is highest you should go from friends experience with the compund but I will be trying soon so can let you know) and when you are leaner 25-50mg Anavar (12% bf or lower ideally to keep fullness and pumps). Any more than that is unessary even the Tren can be argued to be extra, depends if you trust yourself to be able to deal with its effects.

ok i appreciate the help. so here is what i got so far

test 500mg/week
eq 400mg/week
4iu hgh
40 mg tren
2.5mg dut
5 mg oral minox
40 mg accutane
Ai if needed for estrogen
Other support: zinc, NAC, fish oil, COQ10

This look solid and should i add or adjust anything

 

[NorwoodVictim]

ok i appreciate the help. so here is what i got so far

test 500mg/week
eq 400mg/week
4iu hgh
40 mg tren
2.5mg dut
5 mg oral minox
40 mg accutane
Ai if needed for estrogen
Other support: zinc, NAC, fish oil, COQ10

This look solid and should i add or adjust anything

2.5mg of oral minox is more than enough for me but see how you react to bloating, if you react badly can drop to 1.25 or 1.5mg. II have little to none however so am lucky. if you can get bloods done after 4 weeks to see if eq is blocking est and overall and ideally add Tren after 4 weeks to see how you feel from the other anabolics first. Tren can be brutal but it all depends how you react so its safer to start it after you know how you are reacting. otherwise good cycle.

 

[gigachode]

2.5mg of oral minox is more than enough for me but see how you react to bloating, if you react badly can drop to 1.25 or 1.5mg. II have little to none however so am lucky. if you can get bloods done after 4 weeks to see if eq is blocking est and overall and ideally add Tren after 4 weeks to see how you feel from the other anabolics first. Tren can be brutal but it all depends how you react so its safer to start it after you know how you are reacting. otherwise good cycle.

ok bet and should i run this for 12 or 16 weeks and also can u drink at all on a cycle like this

 

[NorwoodVictim]

ok bet and should i run this for 12 or 16 weeks and also can u drink at all on a cycle like this

Eq is a long asf ester after your last pin itll be in your system for 4 weeks minimum so cycles of even 20 weeks are common. Thats not too bad tho and sustainable if youre smart and cycle on and off tren specifically. Stop taking EQ about 6 weeks before you start PCT so id say 20+ week cycle if you want to use EQ to its full potential.
Also you can but dont overdo it as youre stressing your body out. Do NOT drink on Tren, avoid as much as possible expecially if youre on accutane and any diuretics your liver will be getting a beating from Tren and accutane but its fine, add alcohol esp high amounts and its an incredibly low iq thing to do. Just Take pregab for the same feeling and no looxmin or health detriment.

 

[gigachode]

Eq is a long asf ester after your last pin itll be in your system for 4 weeks minimum so cycles of even 20 weeks are common. Thats not too bad tho and sustainable if youre smart and cycle on and off tren specifically. Stop taking EQ about 6 weeks before you start PCT so id say 20+ week cycle if you want to use EQ to its full potential.
Also you can but dont overdo it as youre stressing your body out. Do NOT drink on Tren, avoid as much as possible expecially if youre on accutane and any diuretics your liver will be getting a beating from Tren and accutane but its fine, add alcohol esp high amounts and its an incredibly low iq thing to do. Just Take pregab for the same feeling and no looxmin or health detriment.

fuck thats brootal. in a frat so alc is nonnegotiable. how much gains would i be leaving on the table if i just did the test and eq. also would prob just microdose accutane cause i barely got any acne on my first cycle

 

[CertifiedGoy]

You could make it simpler and get similar gains. Keep gh, add dhb and slin

 

[NorwoodVictim]

You could make it simpler and get similar gains. Keep gh, add dhb and slin

DHB is terrible imo watch vigorous Steve and kurt havens video on anabolics and youll see why but its not a good roid.

fuck thats brootal. in a frat so alc is nonnegotiable. how much gains would i be leaving on the table if i just did the test and eq. also would prob just microdose accutane cause i barely got any acne on my first cycle

Yea try take supplements for liver, moniter and get bloods often. Keep hgh and youll still be getting substantial gains orals and tren are both very optional, you can get a great physique and fast with just test and hgh, EQ is just helpful and useful if you are safe with it.