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160 at reasonable bf would be a great middle groundi said ideal but really that's like nattylifting atleast 2 years so lets say 160-165lbs so you have some weight on you and some muscle. I recall browsing those reddit subs where guys post their transformation and searched for 5'8 and saw jacked guys in the 165-175lb range if i recall correctly. I guess middle ground or optimised more for face and less body would be 160lb but i don't think below 160lb is good for 5'8 guy.