When does a long midface become an issue even with a strong jaw?

[semilooksmaxxer]

I was scrolling through Insta and saw this to illustrate. The guy in the attachment has a good jaw and is likely under 20% bf, but his long midface (and NCT) seems to throw off his attractiveness. He’d be Chadlite with a 1:1 midface, but the flaws mentioned bring him down to MTN.

Does it become a major flaw at 0.89 or below?

 

[Healthymaxxer]

in no way he would be chadlite, i think hes htn either way

 

[Deleted member 91663]

I was scrolling through Insta and saw this to illustrate. The guy in the attachment has a good jaw and is likely under 20% bf, but his long midface (and NCT) seems to throw off his attractiveness. He’d be Chadlite with a 1:1 midface, but the flaws mentioned bring him down to MTN.

Does it become a major flaw at 0.89 or below?

Don't think the guy is MTN. His midface is suboptimal but it isn't that bad. A good eye area and jaw can both compensate for a longer midface. Shelf life is shorter though. You'll age worse. That's the thing about the maxilla, it's an age proofing bone beyond anything else.