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i eat 8 cookies every week in one day ngl i guess it was a dietary choice
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well that obviously mogs yeah, i'm talking about mainstream PUFA ridden ice creamwhy do you think sugar mogs ice cream to death? i make my own with eggs milk coconut oil and sugar and eat that as the main source. i dont see why would it be bad. its probably better since it spreads out glucose spikes
wow i wonder why. perhaps because sugar mogs to death and you have no rebuttal to thatbut I'm not gonna argue with someone who thinks it's a good idea to literally just eat sugar.
average forum IQ already was proven to be sub 80 on my "descension" thread. now I'm just flogging a dead horse running verbal circles around these cretinous buffoonsHow is this difficult to understand?
OPyou drink liters of sugared water for calories? just put sugar in water and stir it?
because simple fast digesting carbs will cause an energy crash due to large blood sugar fluctuations while slow digesting carbs lead to more consistant energy throughout the day. But you need a lot of calories so it's understandablePeople don't believe I drink white sugar for calories despite the fact that it's literally the cheapest and most efficiently consumable carb source available. The only downside to sugar is the same as the upside: the volumetric caloric density is extremely high, therefore it's ideal for hard gainers and poisonous for fat people. For someone like me who force feeds 5000+ calories per day and still stays lean, it's quite obviously an ideal carb source. I'd have to spend twice the money on food if I didn't rely so heavily on sugar. I guarantee you that anyone who thinks it is a bad carb source for bulking has been completely brainwashed their entire lives.
There are people out there who genuinely got raised to think sugar is some form of poison. Most people don't even know how sugars, starches and carbohydrates relate to each other lmfao. I've consumed nearly 2kg of white sugar within a day before (to refeed) and felt great.
- Starches and sugars both simply convert into glucose, and the glycemic index measures how quickly they do that
- White sugar has a lower glycemic index than white rice, white bread, potatoes
- White sugar is only 50% fructose rather than the sugar in fruits which is pure fructose (fructose is more liver toxic than glucose)
- Inb4 "it's processed". Nice buzzword. What's inherently wrong with a food being processed?
- Inb4 "you'll get diabetes". My hba1c and homa-ir are perfectly in range which means my response to insulin is perfect, and I've been consuming white sugar for over 2 years. my fasting blood glucose hasn't even budged a single decimal. if you seriously think diabetes can come out of nowhere when I'm staying perfectly insulin sensitive then you're a moron.
I'll respond to disagreements below. Please tell me why white sugar is a bad carb source.
peat vindicated yet again
JFL This nigga thinks eating sugar/glucose activates randle cycle. RETARD1. Calories are units of heat energy, therefor can not be consumed
2. Enjoy your glycation damage and chronic inflammation from the Randle Cycle activation
3. All exogenous carbohydrates are toxic to the human body
4. Humans are carnivores
12 IQHumans are carnivores
Eating both fat and carbohydrates in large amounts activates the Randle Cycle. Go and look it up for fucks sake.JFL This nigga thinks eating sugar/glucose activates randle cycle. RETARD
caging at first point. this guy seriously believes a conspiracy where every single bodybuilding coach and bodybuilder who accurately determines weight gain/loss with calories is either completely misguided and their results are either pure luck/placebo OR they’re all in on the conspiracy and are secretly going off another measurement/mechanism1. Calories are units of heat energy, therefor can not be consumed
2. Enjoy your glycation damage and chronic inflammation from the Randle Cycle activation
3. All exogenous carbohydrates are toxic to the human body
4. Humans are carnivores
hitting micros is 100x easier than hitting macros bruh. it’s not even remotely close.The only issue I see with consuming copious amounts of white sugar is that it makes it harder to reach micronutrient goals as it's empty calories. If you're actually consuming that amount of sugar I would be sure to consume lots of organ meats alongside it or switch out some sugar for fruit juices as they are more nutrient dense, although this will be tough if you're on a harsh budget.
Because they are wrong. Just because many people agree on something doesn’t mean that they’re correct. Go look up what the definition of a calorie is. Heat are photons. They have no mass meaning they can not be brought to rest. Educate yourself as you’re too incompetent to speak on science.caging at first point. this guy seriously believes a conspiracy where every single bodybuilding coach and bodybuilder who accurately determines weight gain/loss with calories is either completely misguided and their results are either pure luck/placebo OR they’re all in on the conspiracy and are secretly going off another measurement/mechanism
and none of the other points even make any sense. what am i reading? stop wasting my time
hitting micros is 100x easier than hitting macros bruh. it’s not even remotely close.
everyone can swallow a pill but not everyone can pick up the fucking fork and eat what it takes to get big.
inb4 pills don’t work when there are studies demonstrating the bioavailability of every single supplement that i take
your statement is ONLY applicable to fatties who find it TOO easy to hit macros but i literally already covered this point in the original post.
also, fruit juices are way worse for you than sugar (pure fructose) and they are not nutrient dense at all. look at the amount of vitamins that are actually in fruit, and compare to the doses of vitamins you need for ACTUAL benefits, not just hitting the RDI.
Your using sugar as a means to supplement your diet for the 1-2k extra cals you need when you reach High BMRsThe only issue I see with consuming copious amounts of white sugar is that it makes it harder to reach micronutrient goals as it's empty calories. If you're actually consuming that amount of sugar I would be sure to consume lots of organ meats alongside it or switch out some sugar for fruit juices as they are more nutrient dense, although this will be tough if you're on a harsh budget.
You can not eat heat.Your using sugar as a means to supplement your diet for the 1-2k extra cals you need when you reach High BMRs
I would do something like 3kcals of real food and 2kcals of sugar, its damn near impossible to eat 5kcal of white rice
Stfu greycelbro didnt use the big font this time
anyways you build insulin resistance to sugar overtime so its gonna start not doing shit for ur igf1 but if ur not eating it for igf1 then yeah thats another thing
and diabetes part is true, diabetes is genetics. not everyone gets diabetes even after eating lots of shit. it's genetic whether you get diabetes or not.
Really? What are calories then you fucking retardYou can not eat heat.
Calorie - a unit of energy equivalent to the heat energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 gram of water by 1 °C.Really? What are calories then you fucking retard
ngl, i never really notice an energy crash even if I literally skull pure sugar, let alone my jug which dilutes the sugar with protein and fats.because simple fast digesting carbs will cause an energy crash
Really? What are calories then you fucking retard
this cunt is so unfathomably fucking dumb... he's spouting some pseudoscientific one-liner probably thrown around constantly all around the sphere of whichever schizophrenic cultist conspiratorial nutritional belief system to which he devotes himself. it's no less retarded than the flat earthers who throw around a one-liner like "water always finds its level" or "gravity doesn't exist; objects only fall due to buoyancy and density" and suddenly they think they've outwitted the smartest scientists the world has to offer.Calorie - a unit of energy equivalent to the heat energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 gram of water by 1 °C.
1. Calories are units of heat energy
2. Heat has no mass therefor can not be brought to rest via consumption
3. What you and every other incompetent, low IQ specimen are referring to is MASS input and output
You and all of those body builders are not qualified to speak on nutrition health science nor are able to competently read.ngl, i never really notice an energy crash even if I literally skull pure sugar, let alone my jug which dilutes the sugar with protein and fats.
but sugar is not that fast digesting of a carb; it's pretty moderate, with most sources listing its glycemic index at 65.
the prerequisite for a carb to have a very low glycemic index is pretty much that it's slowly/poorly digested though. no point keeping your blood sugar stable if in order to do that you have to have stuff keeping your stomach full+bloated and potentially worsening your GI. i understand you already mentioned that the choice is obvious for me due to high caloric demands though.
this cunt is so unfathomably fucking dumb... he's spouting some pseudoscientific one-liner probably thrown around constantly all around the sphere of whichever schizophrenic cultist conspiratorial nutritional belief system to which he devotes himself. it's no less retarded than the flat earthers who throw around a one-liner like "water always finds its level" or "gravity doesn't exist; objects only fall due to buoyancy and density" and suddenly they think they've outwitted the smartest scientists the world has to offer.
it doesn't take a fucking nobel prize winner to understand that the definition of a nutritional calorie, taken directly from google, is:
- "a unit of energy, often used to express the nutritional value of foods, equivalent to the heat energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 kilogram of water by 1 °C, and equal to one thousand small calories; a kilocalorie."
and it is scientifically and repeatably measured using a tool called a "bomb calorimeter" where scientists "place the food in question in a sealed container surrounded by water and heat it until the food is completely burned off. Scientists then record the rise in water temperature to determine the number of calories in the product."
it's an experiment that is extremely repeatable, accurate, and aligns perfectly with the nutritional information listed for different foods.
this utter fucking moron has the audacity and intelligence to conspire that every single bodybuilder who has perfectly regulated their bodyweight via vigorous calorie counting and every single scientist who verified a food's calories via bomb calorimeter were all either lying about it and in on some grand conspiracy, completely mistaken, or derived their results from pure luck and coincidence.
@Never Get Up tie the rope and kick the chair, you absolute worthless dog. inb4 you refuse to read this or lose the competency to once half way through due to the uncontrollable lacrimation that results from the combined effort of your realisation of your own buffoonery and the permanent cholinergic crisis that your diet has caused you.
if he really did make it to the end, i expect him to reply with something utterly hilarious. perhaps another pseudoscientific one-liner where he thinks he's outsmarting albert einstein. perhaps something like "how can they accurately determine calories based on the rise in water temperature if they're the ones heating it themselves?"
This means that calories have no effect on body composition as heat energy is NOT mass.
Heat energy has no mass. They are photons of light. Only mass effects body composition. You can not store “heat” as weight in your body. You fucking moron.
calories have no effect on body composition
Enjoy atherosclerosis with the elevated levels of sdLDL particles in your blood stream from the excess carbohydrate consumption.People don't believe I drink white sugar for calories despite the fact that it's literally the cheapest and most efficiently consumable carb source available. The only downside to sugar is the same as the upside: the volumetric caloric density is extremely high, therefore it's ideal for hard gainers and poisonous for fat people. For someone like me who force feeds 5000+ calories per day and still stays lean, it's quite obviously an ideal carb source. I'd have to spend twice the money on food if I didn't rely so heavily on sugar. I guarantee you that anyone who thinks it is a bad carb source for bulking has been completely brainwashed their entire lives.
There are people out there who genuinely got raised to think sugar is some form of poison. Most people don't even know how sugars, starches and carbohydrates relate to each other lmfao. I've consumed nearly 2kg of white sugar within a day before (to refeed) and felt great.
- Starches and sugars both simply convert into glucose, and the glycemic index measures how quickly they do that
- White sugar has a lower glycemic index than white rice, white bread, potatoes
- White sugar is only 50% fructose rather than the sugar in fruits which is pure fructose (fructose is more liver toxic than glucose)
- Inb4 "it's processed". Nice buzzword. What's inherently wrong with a food being processed?
- Inb4 "you'll get diabetes". My hba1c and homa-ir are perfectly in range which means my response to insulin is perfect, and I've been consuming white sugar for over 2 years. my fasting blood glucose hasn't even budged a single decimal. if you seriously think diabetes can come out of nowhere when I'm staying perfectly insulin sensitive then you're a moron.
I'll respond to disagreements below. Please tell me why white sugar is a bad carb source.
I agreePeople don't believe I drink white sugar for calories despite the fact that it's literally the cheapest and most efficiently consumable carb source available. The only downside to sugar is the same as the upside: the volumetric caloric density is extremely high, therefore it's ideal for hard gainers and poisonous for fat people. For someone like me who force feeds 5000+ calories per day and still stays lean, it's quite obviously an ideal carb source. I'd have to spend twice the money on food if I didn't rely so heavily on sugar. I guarantee you that anyone who thinks it is a bad carb source for bulking has been completely brainwashed their entire lives.
There are people out there who genuinely got raised to think sugar is some form of poison. Most people don't even know how sugars, starches and carbohydrates relate to each other lmfao. I've consumed nearly 2kg of white sugar within a day before (to refeed) and felt great.
- Starches and sugars both simply convert into glucose, and the glycemic index measures how quickly they do that
- White sugar has a lower glycemic index than white rice, white bread, potatoes
- White sugar is only 50% fructose rather than the sugar in fruits which is pure fructose (fructose is more liver toxic than glucose)
- Inb4 "it's processed". Nice buzzword. What's inherently wrong with a food being processed?
- Inb4 "you'll get diabetes". My hba1c and homa-ir are perfectly in range which means my response to insulin is perfect, and I've been consuming white sugar for over 2 years. my fasting blood glucose hasn't even budged a single decimal. if you seriously think diabetes can come out of nowhere when I'm staying perfectly insulin sensitive then you're a moron.
I'll respond to disagreements below. Please tell me why white sugar is a bad carb source.
Carbs are the only possible way to get cavities. Drop carbs and cavities cannot occurWhat do you have to say to these "teeth health experts" going on about muh sugar in tooth is cavity
could maybe work using dextrose form while supplementing thiamine alongside. too much fructose at once cause nafld.People don't believe I drink white sugar for calories despite the fact that it's literally the cheapest and most efficiently consumable carb source available. The only downside to sugar is the same as the upside: the volumetric caloric density is extremely high, therefore it's ideal for hard gainers and poisonous for fat people. For someone like me who force feeds 5000+ calories per day and still stays lean, it's quite obviously an ideal carb source. I'd have to spend twice the money on food if I didn't rely so heavily on sugar. I guarantee you that anyone who thinks it is a bad carb source for bulking has been completely brainwashed their entire lives.
There are people out there who genuinely got raised to think sugar is some form of poison. Most people don't even know how sugars, starches and carbohydrates relate to each other lmfao. I've consumed nearly 2kg of white sugar within a day before (to refeed) and felt great.
- Starches and sugars both simply convert into glucose, and the glycemic index measures how quickly they do that
- White sugar has a lower glycemic index than white rice, white bread, potatoes
- White sugar is only 50% fructose rather than the sugar in fruits which is pure fructose (fructose is more liver toxic than glucose)
- Inb4 "it's processed". Nice buzzword. What's inherently wrong with a food being processed?
- Inb4 "you'll get diabetes". My hba1c and homa-ir are perfectly in range which means my response to insulin is perfect, and I've been consuming white sugar for over 2 years. my fasting blood glucose hasn't even budged a single decimal. if you seriously think diabetes can come out of nowhere when I'm staying perfectly insulin sensitive then you're a moron.
I'll respond to disagreements below. Please tell me why white sugar is a bad carb source.
stfu sugar is poisonPeople don't believe I drink white sugar for calories despite the fact that it's literally the cheapest and most efficiently consumable carb source available. The only downside to sugar is the same as the upside: the volumetric caloric density is extremely high, therefore it's ideal for hard gainers and poisonous for fat people. For someone like me who force feeds 5000+ calories per day and still stays lean, it's quite obviously an ideal carb source. I'd have to spend twice the money on food if I didn't rely so heavily on sugar. I guarantee you that anyone who thinks it is a bad carb source for bulking has been completely brainwashed their entire lives.
There are people out there who genuinely got raised to think sugar is some form of poison. Most people don't even know how sugars, starches and carbohydrates relate to each other lmfao. I've consumed nearly 2kg of white sugar within a day before (to refeed) and felt great.
- Starches and sugars both simply convert into glucose, and the glycemic index measures how quickly they do that
- White sugar has a lower glycemic index than white rice, white bread, potatoes
- White sugar is only 50% fructose rather than the sugar in fruits which is pure fructose (fructose is more liver toxic than glucose)
- Inb4 "it's processed". Nice buzzword. What's inherently wrong with a food being processed?
- Inb4 "you'll get diabetes". My hba1c and homa-ir are perfectly in range which means my response to insulin is perfect, and I've been consuming white sugar for over 2 years. my fasting blood glucose hasn't even budged a single decimal. if you seriously think diabetes can come out of nowhere when I'm staying perfectly insulin sensitive then you're a moron.
I'll respond to disagreements below. Please tell me why white sugar is a bad carb source.
Explain WHY it’s misinformation you NIGGERI get that some of you are agreeing with OP to be satirical and ironic lol but what he's saying is just blatant
disinformation and dangerous
I thought fruit was a mostly even mix of glucose and fructosePeople don't believe I drink white sugar for calories despite the fact that it's literally the cheapest and most efficiently consumable carb source available. The only downside to sugar is the same as the upside: the volumetric caloric density is extremely high, therefore it's ideal for hard gainers and poisonous for fat people. For someone like me who force feeds 5000+ calories per day and still stays lean, it's quite obviously an ideal carb source. I'd have to spend twice the money on food if I didn't rely so heavily on sugar. I guarantee you that anyone who thinks it is a bad carb source for bulking has been completely brainwashed their entire lives.
There are people out there who genuinely got raised to think sugar is some form of poison. Most people don't even know how sugars, starches and carbohydrates relate to each other lmfao. I've consumed nearly 2kg of white sugar within a day before (to refeed) and felt great.
- Starches and sugars both simply convert into glucose, and the glycemic index measures how quickly they do that
- White sugar has a lower glycemic index than white rice, white bread, potatoes
- White sugar is only 50% fructose rather than the sugar in fruits which is pure fructose (fructose is more liver toxic than glucose)
- Inb4 "it's processed". Nice buzzword. What's inherently wrong with a food being processed?
- Inb4 "you'll get diabetes". My hba1c and homa-ir are perfectly in range which means my response to insulin is perfect, and I've been consuming white sugar for over 2 years. my fasting blood glucose hasn't even budged a single decimal. if you seriously think diabetes can come out of nowhere when I'm staying perfectly insulin sensitive then you're a moron.
I'll respond to disagreements below. Please tell me why white sugar is a bad carb source.
Video of mixing and drinking uncut or larp it cannot be that you drink fucking sugarPeople don't believe I drink white sugar for calories despite the fact that it's literally the cheapest and most efficiently consumable carb source available. The only downside to sugar is the same as the upside: the volumetric caloric density is extremely high, therefore it's ideal for hard gainers and poisonous for fat people. For someone like me who force feeds 5000+ calories per day and still stays lean, it's quite obviously an ideal carb source. I'd have to spend twice the money on food if I didn't rely so heavily on sugar. I guarantee you that anyone who thinks it is a bad carb source for bulking has been completely brainwashed their entire lives.
There are people out there who genuinely got raised to think sugar is some form of poison. Most people don't even know how sugars, starches and carbohydrates relate to each other lmfao. I've consumed nearly 2kg of white sugar within a day before (to refeed) and felt great.
- Starches and sugars both simply convert into glucose, and the glycemic index measures how quickly they do that
- White sugar has a lower glycemic index than white rice, white bread, potatoes
- White sugar is only 50% fructose rather than the sugar in fruits which is pure fructose (fructose is more liver toxic than glucose)
- Inb4 "it's processed". Nice buzzword. What's inherently wrong with a food being processed?
- Inb4 "you'll get diabetes". My hba1c and homa-ir are perfectly in range which means my response to insulin is perfect, and I've been consuming white sugar for over 2 years. my fasting blood glucose hasn't even budged a single decimal. if you seriously think diabetes can come out of nowhere when I'm staying perfectly insulin sensitive then you're a moron.
I'll respond to disagreements below. Please tell me why white sugar is a bad carb source.
@PsychoDsk read this absolute masterpiece of a thread. I'm gonna do the same. 'ideal for hardgainers' lifefuel.People don't believe I drink white sugar for calories despite the fact that it's literally the cheapest and most efficiently consumable carb source available. The only downside to sugar is the same as the upside: the volumetric caloric density is extremely high, therefore it's ideal for hard gainers and poisonous for fat people. For someone like me who force feeds 5000+ calories per day and still stays lean, it's quite obviously an ideal carb source. I'd have to spend twice the money on food if I didn't rely so heavily on sugar. I guarantee you that anyone who thinks it is a bad carb source for bulking has been completely brainwashed their entire lives.
There are people out there who genuinely got raised to think sugar is some form of poison. Most people don't even know how sugars, starches and carbohydrates relate to each other lmfao. I've consumed nearly 2kg of white sugar within a day before (to refeed) and felt great.
- Starches and sugars both simply convert into glucose, and the glycemic index measures how quickly they do that
- White sugar has a lower glycemic index than white rice, white bread, potatoes
- White sugar is only 50% fructose rather than the sugar in fruits which is pure fructose (fructose is more liver toxic than glucose)
- Inb4 "it's processed". Nice buzzword. What's inherently wrong with a food being processed?
- Inb4 "you'll get diabetes". My hba1c and homa-ir are perfectly in range which means my response to insulin is perfect, and I've been consuming white sugar for over 2 years. my fasting blood glucose hasn't even budged a single decimal. if you seriously think diabetes can come out of nowhere when I'm staying perfectly insulin sensitive then you're a moron.
I'll respond to disagreements below. Please tell me why white sugar is a bad carb source.
Right but there’s a flaw in your reasoning… raw honey is naturally occurring and you could get those kind of concentrations naturally.People here decry the dangers of sugar and then post about why 'raw honey' is ideal not understanding its the same fucking thing.
Daily reminder that no study has found sugar to be adverse to health when controlling for caloric consumption or bodyweight