Who shaped humanities moral compass?

[JohnDon]

Is our way of thinking like this because of modern-day religion, or is it just natural? Did religion shape our morals, or were they always there naturally?

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

Some of it is natural instinct and some of it is from religion. But rly it is bs and beyond humans it doesn’t exist and neither does good and evil. Just do whatever u want and try to keep it legal

 

[Mizi44]

Christianity did

 

[Orka]

Is our way of thinking like this because of modern-day religion, or is it just natural? Did religion shape our morals, or were they always there naturally?

We're group / pack animals, so our natural logic is

If [thing] hurt me, bad
If [thing] hurt friend, bad
If [thing] hurt enemy, good!

Most of our morals and decisions are based around this simple logic, "hurt" in this case expanding beyond physical pain and onto emotional, financial etc.

 

[theRetard]

moral compass is a natural thing

Some of it is natural instinct and some of it is from religion. But rly it is bs and beyond humans it doesn’t exist and neither does good and evil. Just do whatever u want and try to keep it legal

cope

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

moral compass is a natural thing

cope

Cope in what way, you’ll live happier if u don’t care about that shit

 

[Kroker]

Read Zapffe

 

[lucifer88]

moral compass is a natural thing

cope

bro not again

 

[theRetard]

Cope in what way, you’ll live happier if u don’t care about that shit

you will be happier in only some low iq hedonistic definition of happiness (most hedonists don't follow epicurus), but this shit will lead you to unhappiness
morals exist independently from humans, we just discovered it

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

you will be happier in only some low iq hedonistic definition of happiness (most hedonists don't follow epicurus), but this shit will lead you to unhappiness
morals exist independently from humans, we just discovered it

discovered morals give me a fucking break

 

[theRetard]

discovered morals give me a fucking break

what's wrong?

 

[JohnDon]

bro not again

U dont get

what's wrong?

Wouldn't say people completely discovered "morals"

 

[lucifer88]

U dont get

u dont get it either i did a thread similar to this and that nigga and i debated for like 40 minutes

 

[theRetard]

U dont get

Wouldn't say people completely discovered "morals"

why not? isn't morals is an attribute of being, and so we took it from external world through reason?

 

[unstable]

why not? isn't morals is an attribute of being, and so we took it from external world through reason?

what kind of bullshit is this, morals don't exist they are manmade. one could argue that humans were evolutionary selected for efficient morals and thats all the objectivity morals will ever have. read nietzsche.

 

[Arbuscular]

jews

 

[lucifer88]

what kind of bullshit is this, morals don't exist they are manmade. one could argue that humans were evolutionary selected for efficient morals and thats all the objectivity morals will ever have. read nietzsche.

he is bouta say ur wrong just wait

 

[theRetard]

what kind of bullshit is this, morals don't exist they are manmade. one could argue that humans were evolutionary selected for efficient morals and thats all the objectivity morals will ever have. read nietzsche.

nietzche is dumb as fuck so as all nietzscheans btw.
if morals is manmade then your claim about morals being manmade is also manmade and not objective JFL

 

[14vic]

Natural Law and agreements

 

[unstable]

nietzche is dumb as fuck so as all nietzscheans btw.
if morals is manmade then your claim about morals being manmade is also manmade and not objective JFL

but my claim of morals being man made is backed by empirical evidence.

 

[lucifer88]

nietzche is dumb as fuck so as all nietzscheans btw.
if morals is manmade then your claim about morals being manmade is also manmade and not objective JFL

is so fun being an spectator and not be the one getting ts thrown at

 

[theRetard]

but my claim of morals being man made is backed by empirical evidence.

alright, i'm waiting for empirical proof about morals (transcendent thing)

is so fun being an spectator and not be the one getting ts thrown at

enjoy

 

[unstable]

alright, i'm waiting for empirical proof about morals (transcended thing)

enjoy

my empirical evidence is that humans have not yet found an substance called "moralium" that gives all humans their moral compasses

 

[theRetard]

my empirical evidence is that humans have not yet found an substance called "moralium" that gives all humans their moral compasses

it's ok, can you empirically proof that morals needs to be empirically proved?

 

[unstable]

it's ok, can you empirically proof that morals needs to be empirically proved?

well that is my premise, why would i believe in something that is not empirically proven.

 

[theRetard]

well that is my premise, why would i believe in something that is not empirically proven.

because you took that premise without empirical evidence

 

[unstable]

because you took that premise without empirical evidence

premise don't need empirical evidence bro just learn epistemology and your troubles will be over.

 

[lucifer88]

well that is my premise, why would i believe in something that is not empirically proven.

this is sodumb

 

[theRetard]

premise don't need empirical evidence bro just learn epistemology and your troubles will be over.

then why do you believe in something that is not empirically proved? didn't you say something like "why would i believe in something that is not empirically proven."?

 

[unstable]

then why do you believe in something that is not empirically proved? didn't you say something like "why would i believe in something that is not empirically proven."?

cuz that is basic epistemology bhai read hume or some shi.

 

[lucifer88]

then why do you believe in something that is not empirically proved? didn't you say something like "why would i believe in something that is not empirically proven."?

how about you niggas move the debate to my thread, i deserve the attention more

 

[theRetard]

cuz that is basic epistemology bhai read hume or some shi.

empiricism is low iq though, i already debunked it. this epistemology is retarded

 

[theRetard]

how about you niggas move the debate to my thread, i deserve the attention more

i like your previous avi more tbh

 

[unstable]

empiricism is low iq though, i already debunked it. this epistemology is retarded

i actually believe in eldritch beings that grant humans morality.

 

[lucifer88]

i like your previous avi more tbh

i forgot what it was, was it that one anime chick 3d?

 

[theRetard]

i forgot what it was, was it that one anime chick 3d?

yes

 

[lucifer88]

yes

idk i wanted to change the aesthetics, ill see if i find an emo vtuber to use that match the banner

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

empiricism is low iq though, i already debunked it. this epistemology is retarded

U can’t just call everything u don’t agree with low iq. Its pretty ironic

 

[theRetard]

U can’t just call everything u don’t agree with low iq. Its pretty ironic

maybe.. i don't agree with that for a reason, no?

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

maybe.. i don't agree with that for a reason, no?

With some things of course but not with this

 

[alphamale82]

humans

 

[theRetard]

but not with this

then what's your reasoning?

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

then what's your reasoning?

With the topic of this thread or the iq thing?

 

[theRetard]

With the topic of this thread or the iq thing?

empiricism

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

then what's your reasoning?

With the topic of this thread or the iq thing?

 

[lucifer88]

empiricism

mirin new avi?

 

[itsoverforyoubro]

empiricism

Mb my internet slow asf, I already explained but I think morals come from humans instinctual needs to survive and help our friends and family, it is also emphasised by our intelligence and knowledge of other beings relatability. If there is any other intelligent life in the universe they would most likely have similar morals since all species primary focus is to survive and keep the species alive. Beyond human life or any somewhat intelligent life morals don’t exist. A female spider doesn’t hesitate to kill its mate after being impregnated because the male has carried out its purpose and the female needs food. Completely different to humans

 

[theRetard]

mirin new avi?

 

[gravlek]

Living life without moral compass is much better for the individual but 'muh collective good'. Look at anyone in power or very famous, they dont give a shit and are thriving. Society shouldn't be your priority, especially for many outcasts on this shithole forum.

 

[taai]

Moral compass is defined through history via family, society and ever changing form of state