Why all babies have compact midface and a lot of forward growth

[Deleted member 5385]

Of course those who born without Cruzon etc.
Is that mean that long midface is not genetic in most cases?
Or there are genes who lenghten face during puberty?

 

[Deleted member 2157]

Babies do not have forward grown maxillas.

 

[wasted]

Muh genetics copers are the stupidiest people on this forum.

Having recessed jaws isn't fucking genetic if you don't have some sort of fucked up syndrome.

 

[Deleted member 3853]

Muh genetics copers are the stupidiest people on this forum.

Having recessed jaws isn't fucking genetic if you don't have some sort of fucked up syndrome.

mewtard cope

 

[wasted]

mewtard cope

Did I even mention mewing?

 

[Vidyacoper]

Muh genetics copers are the stupidiest people on this forum.

Having recessed jaws isn't fucking genetic if you don't have some sort of fucked up syndrome.

true lol
ur bone structure has nothing to do with genetics, its all ur tongue bro totally
in fact, genetics dont even matter
just lol at people ever even mentioning genetics, what even are genetics?

 

[spark]

true lol
ur bone structure has nothing to do with genetics, its all ur tongue bro totally
in fact, genetics dont even matter
just lol at people ever even mentioning genetics, what even are genetics?

genetics of course matter but the vast majority of modern humans are somewhat recessed while both ancient humans and animals rarely are

 

[Gunna]

yes giga mogger

 

[loksr]

Muh genetics copers are the stupidiest people on this forum.

Having recessed jaws isn't fucking genetic if you don't have some sort of fucked up syndrome.

Where are all the twins where one’s subhuman and one’s chad?

 

[Vidyacoper]

genetics of course matter but the vast majority of modern humans are somewhat recessed while both ancient humans and animals rarely are

animals are completely different to humans retard

 

[Deleted member 5385]

yes giga mogger

Giga compact 1.2 midface

 

[Taylorswift]

Muh genetics copers are the stupidiest people on this forum.

Having recessed jaws isn't fucking genetic if you don't have some sort of fucked up syndrome.

Genetics determine up to 80% of your bone structure. That’s why almost all gooks have flat maxilla and bimaxillary protrusion, almost all blacks have recessed chin + bimaxillary protrusion, why almost all australian aboriginals have extremely small orbitals with large browridge. I could go on and on but environmental factors have a small influence. It is basically the same as how height is 80% genetic and 20% environmental factors such as diet, sleep, etc...

 

[Deleted member 5385]

For example my midface descend really hard from 1.15 to 1.00

I know first photo was made with asshole but still visible

 

[wasted]

true lol
ur bone structure has nothing to do with genetics, its all ur tongue bro totally
in fact, genetics dont even matter
just lol at people ever even mentioning genetics, what even are genetics?

Yes bro those african tribes had their genetic profile completely changed for some unknown reason

Definitely not caused because of the modern westren diet

Every single person in that picture has 0 smv in the west. I'm not talking about being good looking which genetics massively impact. I'm talking about having properly developed jaws which is mostly environmental.
You can have proper development and still be an incel because of race/pheno/height etc etc

 

[Vidyacoper]

Yes bro those african tribes had their genetic profile completely changed for some unknown reason

Definitely not caused because of the modern westren diet

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Every single person in that picture has 0 smv in the west. I'm not talking about being good looking which genetics massively impact. I'm talking about having properly developed jaws which is mostly environmental.
You can have proper development and still be an incel because of race/pheno/height etc etc

lol like 0,5% of people i know have teeth/occlusion like that
ur coping hard, its easier to blame diet and things out of ur control for ur face than genetics

 

[NVRH]

Genetics determine up to 80% of your bone structure. That’s why almost all gooks have flat maxilla and bimaxillary protrusion, almost all blacks have recessed chin + bimaxillary protrusion, why almost all australian aboriginals have extremely small orbitals with large browridge. I could go on and on but environmental factors have a small influence. It is basically the same as how height is 80% genetic and 20% environmental factors such as diet, sleep, etc...

I wouln't be so sure about height.

I mean, all it did was rising for the last century so I think it has more to do with children + pregnant mother diet than genetics.

 

[Vidyacoper]

Genetics determine up to 80% of your bone structure. That’s why almost all gooks have flat maxilla and bimaxillary protrusion, almost all blacks have recessed chin + bimaxillary protrusion, why almost all australian aboriginals have extremely small orbitals with large browridge. I could go on and on but environmental factors have a small influence. It is basically the same as how height is 80% genetic and 20% environmental factors such as diet, sleep, etc...

yup exactly, id say more like 95%

 

[Deleted member 3323]

Of course those who born without Cruzon etc.
Is that mean that long midface is not genetic in most cases?
Or there are genes who lenghten face during puberty?

Its because babies are fat blobs and having lots ot fat stored on your face decreases midface length, you will never see an obese person with a long midface

 

[Taylorswift]

yup exactly, id say more like 95%

Okay 95% is too much. Best to follow 80/20 rule just like with height.

 

[fras]

I wouln't be so sure about height.

I mean, all it did was rising for the last century so I think it has more to do with children + pregnant mother diet than genetics.

Height is determined somewhat by your ethnic heritage and then strongly by your Estrogen levels. Estrogen stops growth earlier, which is the only reason why men are on average taller than women. Being a high E soyboy=stunted height confirmed.

 

[Vidyacoper]

Okay 95% is too much. Best to follow 80/20 rule just like with height.

unless a person was mouthbreathing hard or something, then its 95%, the other 5% is maybe from intense chewing or extra hormones (ur hormonal profile and androgen receptor sensitivity is dictated by ur genetics anyway)

 

[wasted]

lol like 0,5% of people i know have teeth/occlusion like that
ur coping hard, its easier to blame diet and things out of ur control for ur face than genetics

As if genetics are in your control? I'm not blaming anything or anyone for our looks. I'm just stating facts... Modern diet negatively affected your craniofacial strucute development. I never said all of your problems would be solved if you were raised on an optimal diet.

I agree with @Taylorswift %80 of your looks are determined by genetics. However, having recessed jaws and malocclusions that prevent you from breathing and chewing properly is mostly enviromental.

 

[Taylorswift]

As if genetics are in your control? I'm not blaming anything or anyone for our looks. I'm just stating facts... Modern diet negatively affected your craniofacial strucute development. I never said all of your problems would be solved if you were raised on an optimal diet.

I agree with @Taylorswift %80 of your looks are determined by genetics. However, having recessed jaws and malocclusions that prevent you from breathing and chewing properly is mostly enviromental.

Malocclusions are caused by genetics as well. Bimaxillary protrusion has been proven to be caused by genetics which is why it’s almost exclusively only found in gooks and blacks
https://www.ijcmr.com/uploads/7/7/4/6/77464738/ijcmr_1907_v3.pdf

Not to mention flat maxilla (gooks), recessed chin (blacks), huge browridge/small orbitals (australian aboriginals), etc...Environmental causes either lessen or worsen the malocclusions that you are destined to have depending on your genetics.

 

[spark]

Genetics determine up to 80% of your bone structure. That’s why almost all gooks have flat maxilla and bimaxillary protrusion, almost all blacks have recessed chin + bimaxillary protrusion, why almost all australian aboriginals have extremely small orbitals with large browridge. I could go on and on but environmental factors have a small influence. It is basically the same as how height is 80% genetic and 20% environmental factors such as diet, sleep, etc...

bimaxillary protrusion is an illusion

 

[wasted]

Malocclusions are caused by genetics as well. Bimaxillary protrusion has been proven to be caused by genetics which is why it’s almost exclusively only found in gooks and blacks
https://www.ijcmr.com/uploads/7/7/4/6/77464738/ijcmr_1907_v3.pdf

Not to mention flat maxilla (gooks), recessed chin (blacks), huge browridge/small orbitals (australian aboriginals), etc...Environmental causes either lessen or worsen the malocclusions that you are destined to have depending on your genetics.

None of those features you mentioned hinder someone's ability to breath and chew properly... Do they? (I might be wrong so please correct me if so)

Some features are less aesthetic than other ones but not all unaesthetic features limit the chances of survivability which is probably why natural selection didn't wipe them off.

 

[MisterMercedes]

Don’t listen to the idiots saying they haven’t been tainted by their environment yet.

Babies haven’t finished or even reached close the end of their facial development, so ther noses and philtrum are incredibly short, along with their ramus and thus entire jaw. As you grow, your nose will lengthen according to your genetics, and your philtrum as well.

It’s the same way babies’ eyes looks almost identical. Their orbits haven’t grown yet.

 

[Clark69]

Don’t listen to the idiots saying they haven’t been tainted by their environment yet.

Babies haven’t finished or even reached close the end of their facial development, so ther noses and philtrum are incredibly short, along with their ramus and thus entire jaw. As you grow, your nose will lengthen according to your genetics, and your philtrum as well.

It’s the same way babies’ eyes looks almost identical. Their orbits haven’t grown yet.

highest iq on this forum dropping another atomic bomb

 

[DutchPrettyBoy]

Muh genetics copers are the stupidiest people on this forum.

Having recessed jaws isn't fucking genetic if you don't have some sort of fucked up syndrome.

 

[Deleted member 5385]

Bumi to get this

 

[Deleted member 4430]

Don’t listen to the idiots saying they haven’t been tainted by their environment yet.

Babies haven’t finished or even reached close the end of their facial development, so ther noses and philtrum are incredibly short, along with their ramus and thus entire jaw. As you grow, your nose will lengthen according to your genetics, and your philtrum as well.

It’s the same way babies’ eyes looks almost identical. Their orbits haven’t grown yet.

for once youre right