Why are people so obsessed with race?

[goat2x]

Anyways why are any of you commenting on war like you've experienced it. You'd cry like a baby.

you didnt experience war there fore you cant have an opinion

 

[Deleted member 10569]

you didnt experience war there fore you cant have an opinion

You can talk about it historically but don't try and play war of as something easy, I gurantee you can read and write about it as much as you want but you'll never ever know the pain of seeing love ones die again and again and again. You won't know the pain of starvation, hiding from terrorists, public executions so i don't get your sarcastic point.

 

[goat2x]

You can talk about it historically but don't try and play war of as something easy, I gurantee you can read and write about it as much as you want but you'll never ever know the pain of seeing love ones die again and again and again. You won't know the pain of starvation, hiding from terrorists, public executions so i don't get your sarcastic point.

nobody talked about it being easy or whatever JFL you are just talking more to the points than its actually is.
except getting a point across you are trying to signal that you been through war just completely foolish thiknikg

 

[Deleted member 10569]

nobody talked about it being easy or whatever JFL you are just talking more to the points than its actually is.

Because it's not a simple thing, if you read up you can see Gymcelldoomer talking about it very nonchalantly. Really don't understand what you're trying to argue with me about.

 

[oatmeal]

I never understood why people say that white people should be ok with being replaced due to their past conquests or w/e. So, they shouldnt fight back out of guilt due to their past and be cucks?

there's a difference between conquest/colonialization (which requires the use of systematic force) and immigration.

Its normal to preserve your culture/heritage and defend against invaders. Their subjects/former colonies did it in the past and so should they.

not really. most of the time colonists had way more advantages and power. at best they could fight a little back but it was no use most of the time.

but now people immigrate to western countries (because of the exploitation of western companies coming in the 3rd world to negotiate with governments to manipulate the economy) and white people literally complain about them existing. jfl. btw you don't forcibly immigrate into a country, it isn't comparable to invasion.

 

[GymcelDoomer]

I ask what that is. is it culture? is it some sort of purity? like what is it tbh.

are u one of those people who likes to think culture is abstract conformity that can be adopted and upheld. it doesn't work that way. cultures are made distinct because of the races being separate, initially. the more globalised the world becomes the more mankind drifts away from organic cultures. i experienced this first hand in dubai. if you go to dubai it's just a place built on american style capitalism with the same superficiality and mass consumption., there isn't an arab identity. it's souless

 

[Gosick]

there's a difference between conquest/colonialization (which requires the use of systematic force) and immigration.

not really. most of the time colonists had way more advantages and power. at best they could fight a little back but it was no use most of the time.

but now people immigrate to western countries (because of the exploitation of western companies coming in the 3rd world to negotiate with governments to manipulate the economy) and white people literally complain about them existing. jfl. btw you don't forcibly immigrate into a country, it isn't comparable to invasion.

The end result is still the same, so yes it is comparable. The difference is, one is direct while the other is indirect.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

are u one of those people who likes to think culture is abstract conformity that can be adopted and upheld. it doesn't work that way. cultures are made distinct because of the races being separate, initially. the more globalised the world becomes the more mankind drifts away from organic cultures. i experienced this first hand in dubai. if you go to dubai it's just a place built on american style capitalism with the same superficiality and mass consumption., there isn't an arab identity. it's souless

Low iq, Rome and Greece weren't built on "My white skin". It was you were either a citizen of Rome or a citizen of Greece or you became a slave. Laughing at you thinking a white person can indiscreetly become a Roman citizen.

*Goes to a germanic tribe* "Yo I'm white"
*dies*

 

[Deleted member 10569]

It's ok bro you're just a white Spaniard you can go visit the Vikings with no knowledge of their language or tribes, they won't kill you!

 

[Deleted member 3323]

Low iq, Rome and Greece weren't built on "My white skin". It was you were either a citizen of Rome or a citizen of Greece or you became a slave. Laughing at you thinking a white person can indiscreetly become a Roman citizen.

*Goes to a germanic tribe* "Yo I'm white"
*dies*

Really debunks the notion that you must look like the tribe to be apart of it. Chances are if you are born into a tribe, speak their language, and follow their traditions you're apart of it. The romanization of Europe was a brilliant example, just because the Romans were mostly white they didn't accept them. Completely different culture.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

Really debunks the notion that you must look like the tribe to be apart of it. Chances are if you are born into a tribe, speak their language, and follow their traditions you're apart of it. The romanization of Europe was a brilliant example, just because the Romans were mostly white they didn't accept them. Completely different culture.

Exactly, but these people will ignore that.

 

[oatmeal]

are u one of those people who likes to think culture is abstract conformity that can be adopted and upheld. it doesn't work that way. cultures are made distinct because of the races being separate, initially

cultures mostly developed by location and the material incentives of each area.

are you trying to say the reason cultures are different is because of biology?

the more globalised the world becomes the more mankind drifts away from organic cultures. i experienced this first hand in dubai. if you go to dubai it's just a place built on american style capitalism with the same superficiality and mass consumption., there isn't an arab identity. it's souless

economic globalization is bad because of the nature of the profit motive tbh. i agree with you here. it incentivizes the flushing out of cultures so they can profit easily because the cultures often get in the way sometimes. this even happens in western countries.

 

[Uglybrazilian]

I unironically dont care for race, I have never asked the ethnic background of someone, I dont feel particularly attracted to white girls or all of this stuff niggas keep pushing here

 

[Deleted member 10569]

Really debunks the notion that you must look like the tribe to be apart of it. Chances are if you are born into a tribe, speak their language, and follow their traditions you're apart of it. The romanization of Europe was a brilliant example, just because the Romans were mostly white they didn't accept them. Completely different culture.

The term slave itself is derived from the Slavs who we're enslaved by the Muslim Spaniards, it comes to a surprised that most people don't know Spain was muslim for 800 years.

 

[Warlow]

@JustRopeBro mirin your intellect itt.

 

[goat2x]

Because it's not a simple thing, if you read up you can see Gymcelldoomer talking about it very nonchalantly. Really don't understand what you're trying to argue with me about.

i din see that what did he say

 

[Deleted member 9837]

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[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

it's a large part of people's identity

 

[Deleted member 10569]

Another thing I'd like to point out is that I don't think it's racial supercity that people have become used to in recent times but more of Ideological supremacy. What people think and believe makes them above everyone. Romans we're Roman, the idea that you had to be a citizen of Rome or Greece. Hitlers idea of the Aryans was based only on the notion of pure Germanic people which favored "Blue eyes and blonde hair".

What many people don't know is that Hitler actually admired groups like the Muslims and had Muslim regiments and although he was racist against African Americans, the Somali Sultans and Ethiopian Emperors went to Italy and participated in Nazi rally's with no persecution.

Somali Sultan and nobles in a Nazi rally in Italy before WW2.

The white supremacy honestly comes from a very Low IQ thought process that deems only have the same color of skin as being the same, when in reality their diverse cultures and traditions, languages, customs etc make it impossible to actually co-exist. How can a Spaniard or Italian have anything in common with a Balkan?

This is why groups have always been sheltered in their own little ethnic communities.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

I'd also like to make the point the reason white people embarked on a journey to enlighten the world was because when Rome fell a lot of knowledge held at that point was lost to the Europeans and retained by the Muslims. Which is the only reason the Renaissance was able to flourish, Medieval Muslims had kept the Romans and Greek knowledge and written about them which spread to the Europeans in the 1500s.

The Romans, Greeks etc had been accustomed to seeing places outside of Europe and realizing how diverse the earth was but the Europeans at the time of the Renaissance had never known this. This is why they acted so harshly against other ethnic groups, they had never known they existed while their earlier ancient counter parts had. Imagine seeing a certain mixture of groups all your life and then being exposed to knew ones. It was simply a lack of knowledge but ignorance isn't an excuse for somethings they did as greed is the primary driver for evil.

 

[Deleted member 3323]

Just show any white nationalist this website and it will change their beliefs if they arent retarded

Human Phenotypes

Human Phenotypes

humanphenotypes.net

 

[Deleted member 9072]

my muslim bhai @JustRopeBro is a proud servant of Allah and high iq professor
keep crying for him niggas

 

[Gosick]

Another thing I'd like to point out is that I don't think it's racial supercity that people have become used to in recent times but more of Ideological supremacy. What people think and believe makes them above everyone. Romans we're Roman, the idea that you had to be a citizen of Rome or Greece. Hitlers idea of the Aryans was based only on the notion of pure Germanic people which favored "Blue eyes and blonde hair".

What many people don't know is that Hitler actually admired groups like the Muslims and had Muslim regiments and although he was racist against African Americans, the Somali Sultans and Ethiopian Emperors went to Italy and participated in Nazi rally's with no persecution.

View attachment 870805 Somali Sultan and nobles in a Nazi rally in Italy before WW2.

The white supremacy honestly comes from a very Low IQ thought process that deems only have the same color of skin as being the same, when in reality their diverse cultures and traditions, languages, customs etc make it impossible to actually co-exist. How can a Spaniard or Italian have anything in common with a Balkan?

This is why groups have always been sheltered in their own little ethnic communities.

The reason why those Africans faced no discrimination in Nazi Germany was because they were getting out of there real quick, had they stayed as actual citizens, they would have for sure faced discrimination like other Africans there.

Also, group selection is very real, even if everyone spoke the same language/had the same culture or w/e, people do tend to have a bias to people who actually look like them.

 

[oatmeal]

my muslim bhai @JustRopeBro is a proud servant of Allah and high iq professor
keep crying for him niggas

im catholic but with how bad the church is today and has been throughout history genuinely thought of converting to a different denomination or sometimes religion dead srs

 

[Deleted member 10569]

im catholic but with how bad the church is today and has been throughout history genuinely thought of converting to a different denomination or sometimes religion dead srs

Hit me up if you want to know about Islam, dead serious. You got discord?

 

[whiteissuperior]

Honestly the jewish agenda to mix race everyone might be better for humanity.

Probably will be. I think about that a lot

 

[Deleted member 9072]

im catholic but with how bad the church is today and has been throughout history genuinely thought of converting to a different denomination or sometimes religion dead srs

Like @JustRopeBro said
hit him up on discord or you can talk to me about Islam bhai

 

[oatmeal]

Hit me up if you want to know about Islam, dead serious. You got discord?

cant use discord sorry bro my parents DNS blocked it jfl

 

[Cali Yuga]

im catholic but with how bad the church is today and has been throughout history genuinely thought of converting to a different denomination or sometimes religion dead srs

begom orthodox

 

[Deleted member 10569]

cant use discord sorry bro my parents DNS blocked it jfl

Just a few videos to show you a glimpse

 

[randomuser2407]

Because racism

 

[Deleted member 10569]

@oatmeal

 

[Deleted member 10569]

 

[MassacredMyBoy]

@JustRopeBro I've read through the thread, and I'm still trying to figure out what your overarching point was.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

@JustRopeBro I've read through the thread, and I'm still trying to figure out what your overarching point was.

At first, I argued against someone for believing that White people are the superior race and how immigration isn't a breach over white peoples rights based on the actions that Europeans committed in the past. Then argued about war, then split of to how Race makes no sense and a more robust argument can be made for ideological ideas.

 

[MassacredMyBoy]

At first, I argued against someone for believing that White people are the superior race and how immigration isn't a breach over white peoples rights based on the actions that Europeans committed in the past. Then argued about war, then split of to how Race makes no sense and a more robust argument can be made for ideological ideas.

So you're supporting unrestricted immigration levels into primarily white countries based on European's previous actions?

 

[Deleted member 10569]

So you're supporting unrestricted immigration levels into primarily white countries based on European's previous actions?

No, the previous person was arguing that White people have the right to cry that these "filthy" ethnics are invading their country which is an ironic statement when European people thrived off of doing the same thing for centuries while commiting mass exploitation and genocide. Therefore it's a funny type of karma that this is currently happening and you shouldn't cry like the previous person did.

 

[goat2x]

No, the previous person was arguing that White people have the right to cry that these "filthy" ethnics are invading their country which is an ironic statement when European people thrived off of doing the same thing for centuries while commiting mass exploitation and genocide. Therefore it's a funny type of karma that this is currently happening and you shouldn't cry like the previous person did.

So you admit that its comparable to conquering and we should fight against them like the ones who was against eu did?

 

[Deleted member 9003]

People will always divide themselves. Before things like race people were dividing themselves with things like religion and countries.

 

[goat2x]

People will always divide themselves. Before things like race people were dividing themselves with things like religion and countries.

Race is whatever if you are america first

 

[Deleted member 10569]

So you admit that its comparable to conquering and we should fight against them like the ones who was against eu did?

Conflict is inevitable but I also argue that race supremacy is pretty stupid in the EU considering how diverse it is like the rest of the world. But yes although the European nations caused this upon themselves they also have the freedom of doing whatever they want in response.

 

[MassacredMyBoy]

No, the previous person was arguing that White people have the right to cry that these "filthy" ethnics are invading their country which is an ironic statement when European people thrived off of doing the same thing for centuries while commiting mass exploitation and genocide. Therefore it's a funny type of karma that this is currently happening and you shouldn't cry like the previous person did.

You can absolutely cry when the government is mass importing unskilled labor and even "skilled" labor, disadvantaging the majority while benefiting a minority. You owe no obligation for your ancestor's offenses, and you are owed none. The world is not advanced on ideological perceptions about fairness and equity. There are finite resources on the earth which will automatically pit organism vs organism, because that's how life works.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

You can absolutely cry when the government is mass importing unskilled labor and even "skilled" labor, disadvantaging the majority while benefiting a minority. You owe no obligation for your ancestor's offenses, and you are owed none. The world is not advanced on ideological perceptions about fairness and equity. There are finite resources on the earth which will automatically pit organism vs organism, because that's how life works.

My ideological argument wasn't based on that read up and yes regardless of what you think should be allowed, people will always be judged by what their ancestors did. That's how we humans are.

 

[goat2x]

Conflict is inevitable but I also argue that race supremacy is pretty stupid in the EU considering how diverse it is like the rest of the world. But yes although the European nations caused this upon themselves they also have the freedom of doing whatever they want in response.

Im not advocating for ethostate, im edovacting for keeping europe as it is. A white majority continent. Comparing europe to the rrst of the world doesn't even make sense.
I guess we agree then

 

[MassacredMyBoy]

My ideological argument wasn't based on that read up and yes regardless of what you think should be allowed, people will always be judged by what their ancestors did. That's how we humans are.

Maybe there was more context in previous posts, but I just responded to your post about the main idea of your posts was. And whatever, but that's still a matter of opinion, not a policy and it ideally will not be made into policy

 

[oatmeal]

You can absolutely cry when the government is mass importing unskilled labor and even "skilled" labor, disadvantaging the majority while benefiting a minority. You owe no obligation for your ancestor's offenses, and you are owed none. The world is not advanced on ideological perceptions about fairness and equity. There are finite resources on the earth which will automatically pit organism vs organism, because that's how life works.

immigration has actually been pretty positive for the economy in America afaik except for high school dropouts i think. yes, even for native population of whites.

even so, yeah there are finite resources on earth but I don't know why this entails competition instead of cooperation? this is how humans survived since we are social animals. humans were not (at least back in prehistory) atomized individuals in tribes competing for resources lol. many tribes and other small groups were egalitarian.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

Im not advocating for ethostate, im edovacting for keeping europe as it is. A white majority continent. Comparing europe to the rrst of the world doesn't even make sense.
I guess we agree then

Yes the original people should have power that is something we can agree upon. I'll be honest with you the beauty of Islam is that I don't care what others do as long as it doesn't affect Muslims and isn't unjust. Islam goes above race etc so that everyone is equal, I am against non-muslims becoming a majority and having power to change laws in Islamic countries. So I guess we can agree on that.

The problem is though Europeans didn't exactly do this in the past which is why there's so much people coming to Europe etc.

 

[Deleted member 10569]

Maybe there was more context in previous posts, but I just responded to your post about the main idea of your posts was. And whatever, but that's still a matter of opinion, not a policy and it ideally will not be made into policy

The beauty of humans is nothing is right or wrong, we can't impose what we view as right on wrong on others because they contradict what we think.

 

[goat2x]

Yes the original people should have power that is something we can agree upon. I'll be honest with you the beauty of Islam is that I don't care what others do as long as it doesn't affect Muslims and isn't unjust. Islam goes above race etc so that everyone is equal, I am against non-muslims becoming a majority and having power to change laws in Islamic countries. So I guess we can agree on that.

The problem is though Europeans didn't exactly do this in the past which is why there's so much people coming to Europe etc.

Western immigrants to middle east would certainly effect muslims directly or indirectly (vote for leaders govornment lawsand etc)because of culture
Thats why immigration is a tricky question always

 

[MassacredMyBoy]

immigration has actually been pretty positive for the economy in America afaik except for high school dropouts i think. yes, even for native population of whites.

even so, yeah there are finite resources on earth but I don't know why this entails competition instead of cooperation? this is how humans survived since we are social animals. humans were not (at least back in prehistory) atomized individuals in tribes competing for resources lol. many tribes and other small groups were egalitarian.

Positive in what way? I'm not expecting you to be an expert in the subject, but try and narrow down a few things that it's improved. And again, what kind of immigration and what amount? Also, are these immigrants expected to integrate and assimilate to the new society, or are they allowed to preserve their culture even if it is in direct opposition to the society they've emigrated to?

And again, you're looking at in an ideological sense. Ideally, humans would cooperate for the advancement of mankind. But, the reality is, people pretty much look out for themselves, especially in non-homogeneous societies. And the size and scope of small tribes compared to the global population is very different. I don't know if extrapolating data from smaller sets and models would translate cleanly or accurately to a much MUCH larger data set. Another thing is, to effectively cooperate, a certain level of IQ is needed to effectively see the big picture. I'm not calling the rest of the world retards, but there are differences in IQ globally.