WHY bonesmashing doesn’t work.

This, there is just way too much anecdotal evidence that bonesmashing works. U have clamping from heightmaxers which is meant to increase height and often as a side effect makes their bones in that area very thick. U have rugby players that are constantly smashing their bodies against eachother and as a result have thick frames/bones.

From a biological perspective I don’t think it makes sense that bones would not have a way of adapting to external forces…

Any force/pressure on bone will cause the bone to adapt. It could be from muscle, or it could be from a hit.
Bones get denser not bigger.
Shin bones of MMA fighters get stronger not bigger.
IF bonesmashing works why do orthodontists apply internal pressure onto the palate rather than external while doing MSE?
 
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This, there is just way too much anecdotal evidence that bonesmashing works. U have clamping from heightmaxers which is meant to increase height and often as a side effect makes their bones in that area very thick. U have rugby players that are constantly smashing their bodies against eachother and as a result have thick frames/bones.

From a biological perspective I don’t think it makes sense that bones would not have a way of adapting to external forces…

Any force/pressure on bone will cause the bone to adapt. It could be from muscle, or it could be from a hit.
RUGBY players already having good frames from birth. You’re a very big retard if you think they grow it with “bonesmashing”

Only way to bonesmash is to develop a machine which hits your bones with constant pressure 24/7. Even then you will just look swollen.
 
i dont think this is actual bone tho, more like scar tissue. ive been smashing for really long time and my bones feel like theyre basically dead. i am not joking you could full force punch me in the face i would not feel anything
It’s a cope. Read my replies
 
Also another comment on this. Even if it were just scar tissue, how different is that really from an implant?
its basically the same as an implant, which is why i say my bones feel dead. and i dont consider this negative tbh more like a brag
 
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Bones get denser not bigger.
Shin bones of MMA fighters get stronger not bigger.
IF bonesmashing works why do orthodontists apply internal pressure onto the palate rather than external while doing MSE?
No the bones also get larger. For example people who compete in all-4s running have thicker than normal wrists (circumfeance). And there are tons more examples of this. As for your MSE question I don’t really understand it. Are you asking why don’t orthodontists smash your maxilla?
 
RUGBY players already having good frames from birth. You’re a very big retard if you think they grow it with “bonesmashing”

Only way to bonesmash is to develop a machine which hits your bones with constant pressure 24/7. Even then you will just look swollen.
No I think they develop those bones as a result of the stress they out their bodies under.
 
No I think they develop those bones as a result of the stress they out their bodies under.
so you believe that random forces of random strength when applies in various random amounts of time result in controlled, harmonious bone growth?
RETARD
 
dude i dont care what excuses you type i know how my face changed i have accurate pictures
You literally killed off your nerve endings JFL. Retard
 
No the bones also get larger. For example people who compete in all-4s running have thicker than normal wrists (circumfeance). And there are tons more examples of this. As for your MSE question I don’t really understand it. Are you asking why don’t orthodontists smash your maxilla?
Send the study that says that people who run on all-4s (what) have thicker wrists.
Why don’t orthodontists use internal pressure for expanding the palate rather than external which supposedly works for “bonesmashing”?
 
so you believe that random forces of random strength when applies in various random amounts of time result in controlled, harmonious bone growth?
RETARD
Yeah, look at LL before and afters for example.
 
Send the study that says that people who run on all-4s (what) have thicker wrists.
Why don’t orthodontists use internal pressure for expanding the palate rather than external which supposedly works for “bonesmashing”?


“Size and density increased at the wrist”
 


“Size and density increased at the wrist”

Why would uncontrolled, random amounts of pressure and force change a bone? Explain it with arguments
 
Why would uncontrolled, random amounts of pressure and force change a bone? Explain it with arguments
every retarded neckbeard or pencilneck egghead can make a theory. thats why theories are useless. its the outcome that matters
 
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Yeah, look at LL before and afters for example.
Were you dropped off by your head as a kid?
IN LL THEY LITERALLY TURN A SCREW INSIDE YOUR LEG EVERYDAY (inside pressure) THAT HAS CONTROLLED FORCES. U must be retarded
 
every retarded neckbeard or pencilneck egghead can make a theory. thats why theories are useless. its the outcome that matters
So you think that by hitting your bone with random pressure, time and force will change it aesthetically? You can’t even explain why without saying “Wolfs law”
 
every retarded neckbeard or pencilneck egghead can make a theory. thats why theories are useless. its the outcome that matters
Answer
 
This, there is just way too much anecdotal evidence that bonesmashing works. U have clamping from heightmaxers which is meant to increase height and often as a side effect makes their bones in that area very thick. U have rugby players that are constantly smashing their bodies against eachother and as a result have thick frames/bones.

From a biological perspective I don’t think it makes sense that bones would not have a way of adapting to external forces…

Any force/pressure on bone will cause the bone to adapt. It could be from muscle, or it could be from a hit.
High iq, idk about clamping for height max only for penis enhancement whats that
 
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Why would uncontrolled, random amounts of pressure and force change a bone? Explain it with arguments
Why explain it with arguments when I have a real life experiment supporting my point, and debunking yours.
 
Were you dropped off by your head as a kid?
IN LL THEY LITERALLY TURN A SCREW INSIDE YOUR LEG EVERYDAY (inside pressure) THAT HAS CONTROLLED FORCES. U must be retarded
Ok you’re kind of slow and your attitude is unfortunate. What happens with LL is as you can see in before and after X-rays after the bone has healed the area that grew is thicker in circumfrance than the rest of the unaffected bone. This is the body reacting to the fracture.
 

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Wolff’s Law states that bone in a healthy animal will adapt to the loads it is placed under.

This stress must come from surrounding tissues and not external pressure.
Bone smashing does not involve the proper use of the body to form bones.

The main problem is that it’s extremely hard (or even impossible) to control the amount of external pressure that you apply to the bone. There are no tested methods or appliances that can safely and efficiently sculpt your bones.

Rather than activating bone-building osteoblasts, bone smashing triggers swelling and inflammation from soft tissue trauma.

Repeated blunt force damages blood vessels, leading to fluid build-up and oedema. It can also cause microtears in facial muscles and damage to the facial fat pads.

At best, minor microfractures may heal with added mineralisation. But swelling and scar tissue are more likely outcomes than symmetrical "bone gains

These fractures heal with thickened bone tissue, but in an uncontrolled, asymmetrical manner. The end result is disfigurement rather than enhanced aesthetic.

Natural/mechanical stress change bone structure through controlled pressure that are almost risk-free and more predictable.


If you are wondering whether you should hit yourself in the face with a hammer, the answer is typically no.
I'm just gonna pretend I didn't read this....
 
High iq, idk about clamping for height max only for penis enhancement whats that
I don’t know the method very well but basicaly you clamp down with heavy force around the end of long bones and supposedly it causes new bone to form. Likely for the same reasons that something like bonesmashing would work.
 
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Gymmax, fix your hygiene, wear 1 inch shoe lifts and normie bullshit, you won’t be able to get any kind of surgeries underage and don’t do peptides.
i gymcel sprint sports all the nt shit i fraud height aswell anythin else
 
also how else would u explain devon larrats growth in his one arm after he trained only one arm for arm wrestling for couple of years
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You are very stupid.
THAT IS MUSCLE.
HE TRAINED HIS ONE ARM MORE THAN THE OTHER
what the fuck lol his arm grew in LENGTH watch his vid where he measures his arms im not retarded holy shit :lul:
 
even stupid bitch know bonesmashing works
 
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what should i be prioritising rn ? im obviously tryna mew thumbpull ( prolly cope asf) take supps meat eggs diary for frame height bones,and smashing what else should i focus on at this age rn
thumb pulling isn’t Cope, within a month of doing it every day, maxilla grew from slightly recessed to extremely wide to the point my teeth make it look like I have hollow cheeks, do it with hard force granted I was and am 16 when doing this but the change in 2 months was so noticeable it’s not cope
 
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Wolff’s Law states that bone in a healthy animal will adapt to the loads it is placed under.

This stress must come from surrounding tissues and not external pressure.
Bone smashing does not involve the proper use of the body to form bones.

The main problem is that it’s extremely hard (or even impossible) to control the amount of external pressure that you apply to the bone. There are no tested methods or appliances that can safely and efficiently sculpt your bones.

Rather than activating bone-building osteoblasts, bone smashing triggers swelling and inflammation from soft tissue trauma.

Repeated blunt force damages blood vessels, leading to fluid build-up and oedema. It can also cause microtears in facial muscles and damage to the facial fat pads.

At best, minor microfractures may heal with added mineralisation. But swelling and scar tissue are more likely outcomes than symmetrical "bone gains

These fractures heal with thickened bone tissue, but in an uncontrolled, asymmetrical manner. The end result is disfigurement rather than enhanced aesthetic.

Natural/mechanical stress change bone structure through controlled pressure that are almost risk-free and more predictable.


If you are wondering whether you should hit yourself in the face with a hammer, the answer is typically no.
Ok
 
thumb pulling isn’t Cope, within a month of doing it every day, maxilla grew from slightly recessed to extremely wide to the point my teeth make it look like I have hollow cheeks, do it with hard force granted I was and am 16 when doing this but the change in 2 months was so noticeable it’s not cope
no joke i also turned 16 recently and my friends legit saying how tf ur jaw got wider and shi
 
no joke i also turned 16 recently and my friends legit saying how tf ur jaw got wider and shi
Yeah fr bro when ur young Thumb pulling is crazy u just need to go far enough back into ur mouth 😂
 
Yeah fr bro when ur young Thumb pulling is crazy u just need to go far enough back into ur mouth 😂
i do it till i bleed from the mid palatine suture combo w d3 k2 magnesium W
 
Wolff’s Law states that bone in a healthy animal will adapt to the loads it is placed under.

This stress must come from surrounding tissues and not external pressure.
Bone smashing does not involve the proper use of the body to form bones.

The main problem is that it’s extremely hard (or even impossible) to control the amount of external pressure that you apply to the bone. There are no tested methods or appliances that can safely and efficiently sculpt your bones.

Rather than activating bone-building osteoblasts, bone smashing triggers swelling and inflammation from soft tissue trauma.

Repeated blunt force damages blood vessels, leading to fluid build-up and oedema. It can also cause microtears in facial muscles and damage to the facial fat pads.

At best, minor microfractures may heal with added mineralisation. But swelling and scar tissue are more likely outcomes than symmetrical "bone gains

These fractures heal with thickened bone tissue, but in an uncontrolled, asymmetrical manner. The end result is disfigurement rather than enhanced aesthetic.

Natural/mechanical stress change bone structure through controlled pressure that are almost risk-free and more predictable.


If you are wondering whether you should hit yourself in the face with a hammer, the answer is typically no.
All arguments based on denying bonesmashing working just say that the bone would theoretically become "denser" and not bigger, but studies and evidence point to the opposite of this, whereas the theory that the bone remodelling process makes bones denser and not bigger is just theory.

In a study published in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research, mechanical loading resulted NOT ONLY IN increased bone density but also in changes to the bone’s GEOMETRY, including thickness and overall size. This can be applied in another study in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology by Christopher Ruff, which showed that repetitive stress leads to morphological changes in the bone structure, including changes in the actual bone shape and thickness (which could obviously be applied to facial/aesthetic gains)

How can you explain the physical changes in MMA fighters faces? It's clear they get a more robust (not necessarily good looking) face throughout their careers. You also argue with the fact that orthos use internal pressure instead of external to widen the maxilla in whatever procedures, you cant compare these two as it's for two completely different reasons, they use stuff like palate expanders for consistent internal pressure which target the suture lines in the palate to get bone growth and expansion, which is well-suited for the specific needs of widening the palate. Completely different from bonesmashing which relies on external impact to induce MICROFRACTURES and consequently the bone remodeling itself while healing (Wolff's Law)

The process of microfractures healing and remodeling the bone, (driven by osteoblast activity) , supports the potential for enlargement and growth of bones. This lines up with with Zhang’s law of dynamic deformation, which says that applied forces can change the shape, diameter, length, curve, and alignment of bones.

If you actually research what you're doing when smashing you can definitely get good results, but most of the retards here just smash their face randomly having done no research, and everyone else believes its B.S because of how retarded schizo james made it look. "Muh assymetry" can all be avoided if you do your research and learn how to apply a consistent pressure on wherever you're hitting, and even if you were to become slightly assymetrical (completely normal in human anatomy jfl) you could counter it by smashing the other side to remodel to an equivalent form. If you can take a hammer and completely fracture the bone, you can use less force and obviously get the microfractures we want. Most people here are either not hitting hard enough, long enough or doing it incorrectly.
All of the evidence points to bonesmashing theoretically working, not the opposite. You can see the force required to fracture facial bones in this photo, which means that microfractures can definitely be induced (not just soft tissue damage) with lower force by a hammer or whatever other object.
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Fucking water, it's just cope to subhumans that are too scared to get surgery
 
All arguments based on denying bonesmashing working just say that the bone would theoretically become "denser" and not bigger, but studies and evidence point to the opposite of this, whereas the theory that the bone remodelling process makes bones denser and not bigger is just theory.

In a study published in the Journal of Bone and Mineral Research, mechanical loading resulted NOT ONLY IN increased bone density but also in changes to the bone’s GEOMETRY, including thickness and overall size. This can be applied in another study in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology by Christopher Ruff, which showed that repetitive stress leads to morphological changes in the bone structure, including changes in the actual bone shape and thickness (which could obviously be applied to facial/aesthetic gains)

How can you explain the physical changes in MMA fighters faces? It's clear they get a more robust (not necessarily good looking) face throughout their careers. You also argue with the fact that orthos use internal pressure instead of external to widen the maxilla in whatever procedures, you cant compare these two as it's for two completely different reasons, they use stuff like palate expanders for consistent internal pressure which target the suture lines in the palate to get bone growth and expansion, which is well-suited for the specific needs of widening the palate. Completely different from bonesmashing which relies on external impact to induce MICROFRACTURES and consequently the bone remodeling itself while healing (Wolff's Law)

The process of microfractures healing and remodeling the bone, (driven by osteoblast activity) , supports the potential for enlargement and growth of bones. This lines up with with Zhang’s law of dynamic deformation, which says that applied forces can change the shape, diameter, length, curve, and alignment of bones.

If you actually research what you're doing when smashing you can definitely get good results, but most of the retards here just smash their face randomly having done no research, and everyone else believes its B.S because of how retarded schizo james made it look. "Muh assymetry" can all be avoided if you do your research and learn how to apply a consistent pressure on wherever you're hitting, and even if you were to become slightly assymetrical (completely normal in human anatomy jfl) you could counter it by smashing the other side to remodel to an equivalent form. If you can take a hammer and completely fracture the bone, you can use less force and obviously get the microfractures we want. Most people here are either not hitting hard enough, long enough or doing it incorrectly.
All of the evidence points to bonesmashing theoretically working, not the opposite. You can see the force required to fracture facial bones in this photo, which means that microfractures can definitely be induced (not just soft tissue damage) with lower force by a hammer or whatever other object.
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explain why orthodontists use internal pressure anchored to the bone rather than hitting their patient 500 times a day.

you cannot bonesmash in a controlled and effective way.

MMA fighters have always had ogre faces and temporary swelling.

send me measurements from a CT scan before and after. YOU DONT HAVE.
 
explain why orthodontists use internal pressure anchored to the bone rather than hitting their patient 500 times a day.

you cannot bonesmash in a controlled and effective way.

MMA fighters have always had ogre faces and temporary swelling.

send me measurements from a CT scan before and after. YOU DONT HAVE.
Ykw fuck it.

I'm not a believer in bone smashing but I'm getting a ct scan for jaw surgery.

I'm also gonna start running some roids.

I'll also do some bonesmashing.

Let's do a before and after and see if there is any noticeable difference.

Any tips ppl?
 
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This, there is just way too much anecdotal evidence that bonesmashing works. U have clamping from heightmaxers which is meant to increase height and often as a side effect makes their bones in that area very thick. U have rugby players that are constantly smashing their bodies against eachother and as a result have thick frames/bones.

From a biological perspective I don’t think it makes sense that bones would not have a way of adapting to external forces…

Any force/pressure on bone will cause the bone to adapt. It could be from muscle, or it could be from a hit.
I’ve been bonesmashing for a week so far (gonions, chin, cheekbones)
 
explain why orthodontists use internal pressure anchored to the bone rather than hitting their patient 500 times a day.

you cannot bonesmash in a controlled and effective way.

MMA fighters have always had ogre faces and temporary swelling.

send me measurements from a CT scan before and after. YOU DONT HAVE.
Bonesmashing increases bone density it Dosnt remodel a bone forward or something 2 separate things whcih u are confusing
 
Bonesmashing increases bone density it Dosnt remodel a bone forward or something 2 separate things whcih u are confusing
Increased density means the bone gets stronger and not larger.
Bone mass is what’s important

DENSITY is how dense the bone within is.
MASS is how large the bone is.
 
Bonesmashing increases bone density it Dosnt remodel a bone forward or something 2 separate things whcih u are confusing
Why do people talk about muscle mass and not muscle density then.
 
Increased density means the bone gets stronger and not larger.
Bone mass is what’s important

DENSITY is how dense the bone within is.
MASS is how large the bone is.
both increase
 
Wolff’s Law states that bone in a healthy animal will adapt to the loads it is placed under.

This stress must come from surrounding tissues and not external pressure.
Bone smashing does not involve the proper use of the body to form bones.

The main problem is that it’s extremely hard (or even impossible) to control the amount of external pressure that you apply to the bone. There are no tested methods or appliances that can safely and efficiently sculpt your bones.

Rather than activating bone-building osteoblasts, bone smashing triggers swelling and inflammation from soft tissue trauma.

Repeated blunt force damages blood vessels, leading to fluid build-up and oedema. It can also cause microtears in facial muscles and damage to the facial fat pads.

At best, minor microfractures may heal with added mineralisation. But swelling and scar tissue are more likely outcomes than symmetrical "bone gains

These fractures heal with thickened bone tissue, but in an uncontrolled, asymmetrical manner. The end result is disfigurement rather than enhanced aesthetic.

Natural/mechanical stress change bone structure through controlled pressure that are almost risk-free and more predictable.


If you are wondering whether you should hit yourself in the face with a hammer, the answer is typically no.
It’s literally cope lol
 
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