Why “confidence is key” is so widespread and mainstream

JamesHowlett

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The vast majority of men are by definition normies (low, mid, high). Also, normies is where confidence matters the most.

It’s useless for incels because they are way below the looks threshold and obviously looks still matters. It’s also useless for chads because they are so GL they don’t need confidence.

The vast majority of men (normies) do benefit from confidence. If you are normie + low confidence, you’ll get absolutely nothing. If you are normie + high confidence, you’ll get average and maybe above average girls from time to time if you’re lucky.

Other positive personality traits that are important and tied to confidence:
- Being NT
- Being Low inhib/Not giving a fuck
- Being funny/witty
 
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Normies are incels in denial
 
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Cope

It's a good cope

Most people aren't confident because they are ugly so it's an easy thing for normies to work on to keep them coping
 
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Confidence helps a lot if you're not subhuman tbh
 
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Confidence makes you act high status + you try more things regularly without worrying , increasing your chances of success in the process
 
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Cope

It's a good cope

Most people aren't confident because they are ugly so it's an easy thing for normies to work on to keep them coping
I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve seen subhumans acting confident in bars/clubs.

It doesn’t work obviously, because they aren’t GL enough, but the point is that confidence doesn’t only come from being GL.
 
I know incels who slay, because of confidence(and money).
 
It's not looks, even if u looked like a chad it wouldn't matter if you were a sperg with no social skills
 
It's not looks, even if u looked like a chad it wouldn't matter if you were a sperg with no social skills
A sperg with no social skills is on the extreme end of mentality so I think a person on the extreme end of looks like a gigachad would still be able to get laid.

But this is such an extreme example that 99.99999999 of men would never experience so it ain’t even worth discussing.
 
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I know incels who slay, because of confidence(and money).
If they were legit ugly/looked like Incels then it was most likely the money.
 
Cope

It's a good cope

Most people aren't confident because they are ugly so it's an easy thing for normies to work on to keep them coping
From your posts I can tell you get all of your life experience from the internet.
 
A sperg with no social skills is on the extreme end of mentality so I think a person on the extreme end of looks like a gigachad would still be able to get laid.

But this is such an extreme example that 99.99999999 of men would never experience so it ain’t even worth discussing.

He may get laid but he will never have a relationship


If thats you in the profile pic u literally prove my point
 
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The vast majority of men are by definition normies (low, mid, high). Also, normies is where confidence matters the most.

It’s useless for incels because they are way below the looks threshold and obviously looks still matters. It’s also useless for chads because they are so GL they don’t need confidence.

The vast majority of men (normies) do benefit from confidence. If you are normie + low confidence, you’ll get absolutely nothing. If you are normie + high confidence, you’ll get average and maybe above average girls from time to time if you’re lucky.

Other positive personality traits that are important and tied to confidence:
- Being NT
- Being Low inhib/Not giving a fuck
- Being funny/witty
A question I have for you- do you actually get laid?

Because genetically you are a HTN, it would be a damning thing if you weren't 'NT' enough yourself to get laid.
 
A question I have for you- do you actually get laid?

Because genetically you are a HTN, it would be a damning thing if you weren't 'NT' enough yourself to get laid.
If I want to then yeah

I go through stages of being volcel though when dieting.
 
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If I want to then yeah

I go through stages of being volcel though when dieting.
wasn't an insult btw, I was just bemused when you said once "I only like making out with chicks and validation, not slaying".
 
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high iq thread and i can confirm what OP says
 
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wasn't an insult btw, I was just bemused when you said once "I only like making out with chicks and validation, not slaying".
I have some mental issues with self-confidence when I let myself gain weight. I was fat throughout my whole child and teenhood and never got sexual validation from girls at that time.
 
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Surgeries will boost my confidence
 
I have some mental issues with self-confidence when I let myself gain weight. I was fat throughout my whole child and teenhood and never got sexual validation from girls at that time.
shit man..... same story here
i was fat/obese all my childhood and i grew up obese.. im 30 years old
and since 2 years im almost normalweight... before i was all the fucking time fat as fuck (140kg)
and like you, never had attraction from women.. i was soo used to be a neutral being, i thought its normal when women act like nothing
like i was AIR to them.. but 2 years ago i realized that obviously my fat body look unhealthy and unhealthy = unattractive

i lost almost 48kg (in the last 2 years) and i cant believe how the behavior of the women changed.... now at least they look deeply into my eyes and act completely different.. but my mindset are slowly recovering.... i mean, i was used to the identity of a fat loser guy
now, i look average (maybe a lil bit above average) and women dont see me as a neutral being.. for the first time in my life
they see me as a sexual being.... and thats the key point... men must look masculine to be a sexual being to women
and women should look feminine to be a sexual being to men

the both sex, when they are fat, they are deformed.. they dont look like masculine - feminine beings.. they just look like a neutral being
and i cant believe i wasted 28 years and didnt knew that they dont see me as a man..... i always thought i must convince them with my personality etc..... but then i thought "wait a minute.. subconsciously im not sexually attracted by fat women.. so it must be also vice versa.. women arent attracted by obese men what a fucking suprise"

also its not only the fat body, its also the fucking face that look soft when you are fat.. its not looking masculine
 
no its because you can never truly be fully confident, and normies can always say "you just need to be MORE confident!!" :forcedsmile:
 
chads still need confidence, obviously they still get attention and get approached even if they have 0 confidence, but without confidence they cant materialize that into a slay
 
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