Why do carnivoretards never shut up about it

[genetically fucked]

Yea bro we get it, u only eat meat. You dont need to tell us 6 times per day

 

[superpsycho]

raw dih is law

 

[brain]

pure carnivore is retarded.

 

[genetically fucked]

pure carnivore is retarded.

I wouldn't say it's retarded, but the people who do it are typically retards

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Yea bro we get it, u only eat meat. You dont need to tell us 6 times per day

Because they know it's bullshit in the subconscious mind

The same way you make fun of individuals who have your flaws

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Yea bro we get it, u only eat meat. You dont need to tell us 6 times per day

I blame goatis

 

[brain]

I wouldn't say it's retarded, but the people who do it are typically retards

the diet in of itself is extremely dumb, anyone who has read basic scientific literature on diets knows this.

 

[genetically fucked]

The same way you make fun of individuals who have your flaws

Uhh i dont think this is relatable. A lot of people avoid shit talking features they have to make themself feel better

 

[crazyguy]

the diet in of itself is extremely dumb, anyone who has read basic scientific literature on diets knows this.

 

[brain]

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"hitting with the hands is the most useless strategy for combat"

 

[Amnesia]

I blame goatis

except goatis eats fruits/carbs

Not eating any carbs....well gl with ur constant cortisol and shit sleep

 

[Zeekie]

Yea bro we get it, u only eat meat. You dont need to tell us 6 times per day

They feel soooo superior because they're not getting the foods we adapted to consume over millions of years. Truth is some people do better with the carnivore diet, but others (most) don't, it's incredibly stupid advice to recommend the carnivore diet like it's the holy grail. It's not for everyone from a metabolic/health standpoint, as a matter of fact most people under the carnivore diet are actively killing themselves but don't realize it because they're "keto adapting bro" while their blood markers (which they of course never check) are telling a different story.

But again, cool diet for people with some metabolic, gut and insulin conditions, or that just do bad with carbs, but that's a very small subset of the population.

 

[asdvek]

I blame goatis

goatis doesnt eat carnivore tho?

 

[asdvek]

we adapted to consume over millions of years

lemme guess

broccoli?

 

[Zeekie]

goatis doesnt eat carnivore tho?

Yes, it's even worse

 

[asdvek]

Yes, it's even worse

broccoli

 

[Zeekie]

lemme guess

broccoli?

Any plant food, so yeah, that includes broccoli. "Oh but goitrogens!" 1. You have no idea what a goitrogen is 2. You have no idea how bioavailable they are or who should actually avoid them 3. They're basically completely nullified through cooking

Vegetables are fine and in fact beneficial in most people's diet, anti-nutrients are a non-issue, you're just a little gullible and fell hard for very questionable diet advice from dudes on the internet, and that's fine, we've all been there

 

[Zeekie]

broccoli

See how you never make any rational statement, you cannot defend your diet for the life of you, you're following because you THINK it's what you should do, not because you have any evidence to provide it is good. You're essentially being a sheep, incapable of justifying your own beliefs with any meaningful research or facts. So you just meme instead of having an actual discussion, lol, if you reply to this at all I'm 100% sure you're going to give some copout excuse to try and deny this and act like you're superior, but we all know it's true

 

[asdvek]

Any plant food, so yeah, that includes broccoli. "Oh but goitrogens!" 1. You have no idea what a goitrogen is 2. You have no idea how bioavailable they are or who should actually avoid them 3. They're basically completely nullified through cooking

Vegetables are fine and in fact beneficial in most people's diet, anti-nutrients are a non-issue, you're just a little gullible and fell hard for very questionable diet advice from dudes on the internet, and that's fine, we've all been there

broccoli is man-made and doesnt grow in nature

most vegetables are genetically modified

you have zero knowledge on nutrition, even if u dont support carnivore, which is ok, the points you're making are very wrong, dont talk abt nutrition pls, im srs

you know nothing

 

[Zeekie]

the diet in of itself is extremely dumb, anyone who has read basic scientific literature on diets knows this.

The username checks out

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Yea bro we get it, u only eat meat. You dont need to tell us 6 times per day

i have very bad gut health even from a young age. I tried raw meat for the first time. It was so good and my stomach didn't get upset and I felt full. Its so good .

But it is cope if your gut isnt absolute garbage like mine and most people use it like a status symbol. Like nobody cares that you eat a different food lol

 

[asdvek]

the diet in of itself is extremely dumb, anyone who has read basic scientific literature on diets knows this.

even if u dont wanbna do carnivore, you cant say vegetables are healthy.

 

[NuclearGeo20]

even if u dont wanbna do carnivore, you cant say vegetables are healthy.

like why even eat vegetables. They taste like dirt. Im not a rabbit

 

[Zeekie]

broccoli is man-made and doesnt grow in nature

Broccoli does grow in nature... Broccoli dates back to the 17th century, probably existed before, all we need was selectively breed certain species of it to create the modern version of the vegetable, but wild broccolis do exist and grow in nature. Either way, the fact that it's man-made means nothing.

Under that logic, the cows that you eat are just as man-made, we selectively bred them over generations to get the animals we have today, just as we did with plants.

most vegetables are genetically modified

So? Just eat non-GMO

you have zero knowledge on nutrition, even if u dont support carnivore, which is ok, the points you're making are very wrong, dont talk abt nutrition pls, im srs

It's not that I don't support the carnivore diet, it's that I don't support prescribing the carnivore diet to everyone. It is not a human appropriate diet, our bodies are made to digest both cooked meats and vegetables, we're omnivores by nature just like all of our relatives.

The carnivore diet has been shown to help with certain health condition, and doing a lower-carb, almost fully carnivore diet is great for certain people, but where you're wrong is believing this cases apply to the majority of people. You have not read the scientific literature on carnivore diets, I'm sure of it. It may be useful for people with specific metabolic, gut, or insulin conditions.

 

[brain]

See how you never make any rational statement, you cannot defend your diet for the life of you, you're following because you THINK it's what you should do, not because you have any evidence to provide it is good. You're essentially being a sheep, incapable of justifying your own beliefs with any meaningful research or facts. So you just meme instead of having an actual discussion, lol, if you reply to this at all I'm 100% sure you're going to give some copout excuse to try and deny this and act like you're superior, but we all know it's true

earned yourself a follow

 

[crazyguy]

earned yourself a follow

this is dickriding ngl

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

even if u dont wanbna do carnivore, you cant say vegetables are healthy.

I have never heard of someone dying because they ate celery or carrots

 

[brain]

So? Just eat non-GMO

for general consumption of food, this is merely impossible unless you outright cut out a huge portion of food we have modern time. again a lot of the discussions regarding GMO is fear mongering. read the scientific literature people!

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

Broccoli does grow in nature... Broccoli dates back to the 17th century, probably existed before, all we need was selectively breed certain species of it to create the modern version of the vegetable, but wild broccolis do exist and grow in nature. Either way, the fact that it's man-made means nothing.

Under that logic, the cows that you eat are just as man-made, we selectively bred them over generations to get the animals we have today, just as we did with plants.


So? Just eat non-GMO


It's not that I don't support the carnivore diet, it's that I don't support prescribing the carnivore diet to everyone. It is not a human appropriate diet, our bodies are made to digest both cooked meats and vegetables, we're omnivores by nature just like all of our relatives.

The carnivore diet has been shown to help with certain health condition, and doing a lower-carb, almost fully carnivore diet is great for certain people, but we're you're wrong is believing this cases apply to the majority of people. You have not read the scientific literature on carnivore diets, I'm sure of it.

You’re too intelligent and wise and for this site. I admire you

 

[asdvek]

I have never heard of someone dying because they ate celery or carrots

People die from eating celery and carrots. They eat that and long term they will have health issues.

And what causes those health issues? Stupid vegetables and low meat consumption.

Oh but they died of old age bro, they got heart attack

Retard what caused those in the first place?

 

[brain]

this is dickriding ngl

 

[Zeekie]

for general consumption of food, this is merely impossible unless you outright cut out a huge portion of food we have modern time. again a lot of the discussions regarding GMO is fear mongering. read the scientific literature people!

Yeah I know, but it's much harder to convince him that GMO veggies are fine, than it is to convince that veggies are fine, taking it one step at a time is best. I mean he doesn't think eating freaking apples is fine, how do you think he will react if you talk to him about scary genetic modification!!!!!

 

[asdvek]

You’re too intelligent and wise and for this site. I admire you

He is dumb as shit and I'll debunk his bullshit in a second. He tries to act different and cool with saying things against other ppl, tryna act different, I hope he's ragebaiting cuz a person shouldn't be this dumb

 

[LegendaryKennen]

they are the new vegans

 

[brain]

He is dumb as shit and I'll debunk his bullshit in a second. He tries to act different and cool with saying things against other ppl, tryna act different, I hope he's ragebaiting cuz a person shouldn't be this dumb

i will be waiting for the response

 

[Zeekie]

He is dumb as shit and I'll debunk his bullshit in a second. He tries to act different and cool with saying things against other ppl, tryna act different, I hope he's ragebaiting cuz a person shouldn't be this dumb

No, I'm just not ignorant, actually read scientific articles and eat my veggies

 

[Iraniancel]

No, I'm just not ignorant, actually read scientific articles and eat my veggies

Go outside right now and tell me what would you eat.

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

People die from eating celery and carrots. They eat that and long term they will have health issues.

And what causes those health issues? Stupid vegetables and low meat consumption.

Oh but they died of old age bro, they got heart attack

Retard what caused those in the first place?

1. Oh that’s ridiculous and you know it. Celery and carrots cause heart attacks? Seriously? Even though both contain fibre that is proven to lower the risk of heart disease?

2. I don’t mean any disrespect but it’s really amazing hearing your points. It’s like talking to someone living in an alternate reality

 

[Zeekie]

Go outside right now and tell me what would you eat.

What? Beef and animal products are okay man, I never said otherwise, what is not okay is think you can exclusively eat those and be in "optimal health" or suggest that eating fruits and vegetables is negative for your health, meat is nutrient dense, yes, but that's like saying "sleep is good for you" and then suggesting that the optimal way to live your life is to sleep every second of your existence and claim it is optimal for your health, things are good in the right quantities.

This ain't even an opinion either, we have hard science on this. It doesn't matter what your local TikTok carnivore influencer says, it matters what the research shows and what has been proven to be largely correct for most people

 

[asdvek]

Broccoli does grow in nature... Broccoli dates back to the 17th century, probably existed before, all we need was selectively breed certain species of it to create the modern version of the vegetable, but wild broccolis do exist and grow in nature. Either way, the fact that it's man-made means nothing.

Under that logic, the cows that you eat are just as man-made, we selectively bred them over generations to get the animals we have today, just as we did with plants

Have you ever seen a broccoli grow in a forest by itself or something like that? Genuinely asking.

No, they're all grown in farms.

The cows might be man-made? So what? Can you name one anti nutrient in beef? Whereas I can name plenty in broccoli, I have been researching this shit for ages retard.

It's not that I don't support the carnivore diet, it's that I don't support prescribing the carnivore diet to everyone. It is not a human appropriate diet, our bodies are made to digest both cooked meats and vegetables, we're omnivores by nature just like all of our relatives.

I never said one should eat exclusively carnivore.

But I never said vegetables are healthy either.

Our bodies are not made to digest vegetables.

And cooked meat is much harder for the body to digest instead of raw meat, because when exposed to heat one hundred percent of the digestive enzymes get destroyed.

As I fucking said again,


Dose does not make the poison in most cases, and in this case the dose doesnt matter.

What I'm trying to say is "muh bro the anti nutrients are very low it won't do anything it won't kill you"

Low dose enough to not kill you yes. I can drink real poison on a dose that's low enough to not kill me, and I wouldn't die. Because it was a low dose enough to not kill me

But do you think it still wouldn't affect my body if I ate that low dose poison everyday long term? No, it will absolutely fuck your body up. Poison is poison.

Brocolli doesn't even grow in nature, it's not fucking natural. Humans aren't supposed to be eating this shit.

Nobody eats this shit raw because it tastes like shit, they either cook it or put a shit ton of dressing on it to hide the taste. It's extremely toxic when cooked.

And if you just tell me to cook it, then it still doesn't make sense.

Because I won't eat food that I am not able to eat raw. Like you can eat raw meat, cooked meat. They have no anti nutrients.

Eggs? You can eat them raw no problem

Milk? Can be consumed raw

Broccoli? Toxic when ra

Those goitrogens will fuck up your thyroid long term if you're eating it raw especially

Just stop with this bullshit fucking diet advice and actually try doing some research, not reading some random retarded vegans blog or some shit like that?

I've been researching this shit for ages, brocolli is not for human consumption, it isn't for any animals consumption, not even a rabbits or cows or anything, it's fake, not real, man made, doesn't grow in nature.

 

[asdvek]

1. Oh that’s ridiculous and you know it. Celery and carrots cause heart attacks? Seriously? Even though both contain fibre that is proven to lower the risk of heart disease?

2. I don’t mean any disrespect but it’s really amazing hearing your points. It’s like talking to someone living in an alternate reality

I never said those cause heart attacks.

Are you slow? I mean you said you look like a girl so your brain probably works like a retarded TikTok girls brain.

To me it seems like you're in an alternate reality.

2025 and these retards still talking about vegetables being healthy, on a blackpill forum, like come the fuck on dude, what the fuck.

And you're saying fibre lowers the risk of heart disease, AS IF THERE ISNT A SHIT TON OF ANTI NUTRIENTS AND TOXINS IN THOSE VEGETABLES.

Let's just ignore those toxins yeah. They won't do anything, for sure bro, let's just look at the muh fibre

Did you know that there are anti nutrients in those shit?

 

[Iraniancel]

What? Beef and animal products are okay man, I never said otherwise, what is not okay is think you can exclusively eat those and be in "optimal health" or suggest that eating fruits and vegetables is negative for your health, meat is nutrient dense, yes, but that's like saying "sleep is good for you" and then suggesting that the optimal way to live your life is to sleep every second of your existence and claim it is optimal for your health, things are good in the right quantities.

This ain't even an opinion either, we have hard science on this. It doesn't matter what your local TikTok carnivore influencer says, it matters what the research shows and what has been proven to be largely correct for most people

Never have I claimed such a thing. I eat fruits myself. I could go into the forest and eat berries right now. I couldn't eat any vegetables.

 

[asdvek]

No, I'm just not ignorant, actually read scientific articles and eat my veggies

Eat your veggies, brainwashed slave

 

[sigma boii]

broccoli is man-made and doesnt grow in nature

most vegetables are genetically modified

you have zero knowledge on nutrition, even if u dont support carnivore, which is ok, the points you're making are very wrong, dont talk abt nutrition pls, im srs

you know nothing

Imagine him trying to find a edible veg in nature
He would die of starvation before that

 

[Shrek2OnDvD]

I never said those cause heart attacks.

Are you slow? I mean you said you look like a girl so your brain probably works like a retarded TikTok girls brain.

To me it seems like you're in an alternate reality.

2025 and these retards still talking about vegetables being healthy, on a blackpill forum, like come the fuck on dude, what the fuck.

And you're saying fibre lowers the risk of heart disease, AS IF THERE ISNT A SHIT TON OF ANTI NUTRIENTS AND TOXINS IN THOSE VEGETABLES.

Let's just ignore those toxins yeah. They won't do anything, for sure bro, let's just look at the muh fibre

Did you know that there are anti nutrients in those shit?

Vegetables provide fibre, minerals, magnesium, vitamin c, folate and antioxidants

You also completely ignore the fact that excessive red meat consumption increases the risk for colorectal cancer. Most mammal meat also contains theoretically pro-inflammatory chemicals such as "alpha-gal" and "Neu5Gc"

I’ve been eating a lot more vegetables recently and I’ve never felt better. Soups, salads, stews. It’s wonderful, you should try it. Maybe it will calm you down

 

[asdvek]

Under that logic, the cows that you eat are just as man-made, we selectively bred them over generations to get the animals we have today, just as we did with plants.

And I never said something being gmo is necessarily bad

Take watermelon for example

Selectively bred? Yes

Does it have oxalates or anti nutrients? Not really

Brocolli

Selectively bred, yes

But it has goitrogens

Messes up thyroid function

 

[asdvek]

antioxidants

False. They have oxidants, NOT anti-oxidants.

minerals

They literally strip away minerals from your body with the anti-nutrients.

magnesium, vitamin c, folate

Ever noticed how almost every vegetable has the same nutrients?

Always the same shit, magnesium, vitamin c, folate.

Always the same. In every plant.

No other nutrient, almost.

It's because they're shit and have no real nutrients to offer.

I’ve been eating a lot more vegetables recently and I’ve never felt better. Soups, salads, stews. It’s wonderful, you should try it. Maybe it will calm you down

I saw what you look like, you are a skinny femboy pussy ass bitch, don't give me any advice.

Go and have a steak and some eggs and try to man-up bitch

Imagine looking like a pussy like that AND still actively looksminning yourself thinking you're doing something good as if you weren't unattractive enough.

Pathetic af tbh

 

[Clark69]

they just want you to ascend and eat natur00l bro

if you're not eating dissected liver of your worst enemies, then you're not carnivore or healthy at all

 

[Zeekie]

Have you ever seen a broccoli grow in a forest by itself or something like that? Genuinely asking.

No... Because it comes from the Eastern Mediterranean, and I don't live there??

No, they're all grown in farms.

Guess what animal that you eat is also grown in farms...

The cows might be man-made? So what? Can you name one anti nutrient in beef? Whereas I can name plenty in broccoli, I have been researching this shit for ages retard.

Pick a side dude, are man-made things bad or not? It seems like they're only bad when you want them to be.

Also, beef doesn't have antinutrients but:

1. Anti-nutrients are not inherently bad, you have zero knowledge on nutrition and don't understand when are they a negative and when are they not. Some people with gut issues do bad on anti-nutrients, they should remove them from their diets, but most people don't have gut issues. Cooking your vegetable largely disables any anti-nutrient if you're worried about that, while still preserving most of the nutrition.
2. Beef may not have any anti-nutrients, but there are negative compounds on it. Like saturated fat which is linked to higher LDL and coronary heart disease, while it is good to have in the diet for testosterone, too much of it causes issues in your body (WOW... ALMOST LIKE WITH ANTI-NUTRIENTS, IN SMALL QUANTITIES THEY ARE GOOD, BUT WHEN YOU OVERDO THEM THEY ARE BAD, CRAZY, RIGHT?!

I never said one should eat exclusively carnivore.

I think if we review your post history, it is completely fair to assume you do, but come on elaborate!

But I never said vegetables are healthy either.

Yes, I know, you misread what I said.

Our bodies are not made to digest vegetables.

Taxonomically speaking we're hominids, we share this family with chimpanzees, gorillas, bobonos and orangutans, they're our closest living relatives, because the other human species died out. All of them under a natural environment will eat plants and occasionally animals, they hunt. That aside, we have both the physiological structure to process vegetables (teeth, stomach, intestines) and the chemical ability for it too (through our stomach acid and digestive enzymes).

It is so true that we can digest vegetables, that people can EXCLUSIVELY EAT VEGETABLES (vegans) and be largely healthy and live very long lives. So I ask, what evidence do you have to suggest we "are not made to digest vegetables"?

And cooked meat is much harder for the body to digest instead of raw meat, because when exposed to heat one hundred percent of the digestive enzymes get destroyed.

Meat doesn't have digestive enzymes? It has active enzymes, yes, but those are different from digestive enzymes. Either way, it isn't harder for your body to digest it, the opposite in fact, research shows better nutrient absorption and amino acid utilization when food is cooked to a proper degree.

You're forgetting to that our body doesn't use the enzymes and proteins of other animals, we break them into single amino acids or peptides to use them to create our own custom machinery, aside from some minor improvements to the gut microbiome, taking in whole enzymes is not needed.

As I fucking said again,

Dose does not make the poison in most cases, and in this case the dose doesnt matter.

What I'm trying to say is "muh bro the anti nutrients are very low it won't do anything it won't kill you"

Low dose enough to not kill you yes. I can drink real poison on a dose that's low enough to not kill me, and I wouldn't die. Because it was a low dose enough to not kill me

Not only will it not kill you, it won't do anything.

But do you think it still wouldn't affect my body if I ate that low dose poison everyday long term? No, it will absolutely fuck your body up. Poison is poison.

Poison by what standards? You have an incredibly dogmatic mindset, I made a lot of positive claims, but I'm sure that EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID is supported by research, if you were to ask me to provide the evidence for any of this, I would gladly cite the research so you can go through it yourself, you cannot do the same here. There is not a SINGLE creditable source that suggest anti-nutrients in healthy amounts are bad, that they should be avoided, or that they cause long-term damage.

You're also ignoring that there are similarly damaging compounds in meat, but as you said, the dose makes the poison.

Brocolli doesn't even grow in nature, it's not fucking natural. Humans aren't supposed to be eating this shit.

Cows don't grow in nature. That's not an actual argument, it's just bias, just because something isn't "natural", it's not inherently bad. The internet isn't natural and I don't see you complaining about it??

Nobody eats this shit raw because it tastes like shit, they either cook it or put a shit ton of dressing on it to hide the taste. It's extremely toxic when cooked.

Provide evidence that it's toxic when cooked. And also explain why if vegetables are so horrible, and cooked meat is so toxic, does the majority of the population eat like this, but are largely healthy (and don't go onto claim "but people have obesity" or "heart disease", these people are NOT representative of the majority of the population, and in that case we also have to factor in other aspects like fitness or ultra-processed foods) and go on to live up to their 90s even.

Broccoli? Toxic when raw

Raw broccoli isn't good for you, that's true, but that doesn't mean that cooked broccoli isn't good for you. Anti-nutrients in large quantities are largely problematic, but you do not understand the degree to which that is an issue. Just for the mental image, for goitrogens to put you at any significant risk for goiter due to iodine blocking you'd have to consistently eat over 3 pounds of broccoli every day, a normal 100-200 serving of broccoli contains 1/30 of the potentially dangerous dose, on top of that, cooking destroys 60-90% of these goitrogens.

Foods like broccoli are anti-inflammatory and compounds amazing compounds like sulforaphane that is anti-cancer.

I've been researching this shit for ages

Looking at the wrong sources, listening to gurus with no background in science, denying modern medicine, biology and even documented history, all while being incapable of citing A SINGLE CREDIBLE SOURCE to validate your research.

Imagine how much credibility I'd lack if I tried to convince you that my way of eating was right by talking about the ideas of a YouTuber or some dude that wrote a book about nutrition, does that sound like credible evidence to you? It's not. And again, I'm completely open about discussing and citing research is you're curious where I'm getting any of this from, and I'm also very much open to being proven wrong if you provide your own peer-reviewed research to validate your claims.

it's fake, not real, man made, doesn't grow in nature.

This isn't an statement based on science, it's one based on fearmongering and moral attribution, the idea that "natural good" and "man-made bad" has no weight in any empiral discussion.

 

[Zeekie]

False. They have oxidants, NOT anti-oxidants.

Very interesting, can you explain this in detail?