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We both know that you are a closeted faggot now bend the knee
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We both know that you are a closeted faggot now bend the knee
Dnr one moleculeWe both know that you are a closeted faggot now bend the knee
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Clearly this thread hit a nerve i knew you were gay "ethnicwarrior" this thread was made exactly for youDnr one molecule
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hmmm so if theyโre not isis theyโre not muslim? and according to what standard? the prophet himself signed multiple treaties with non muslims, offered protection to christians and told believers to avoid disrespecting other faiths. their is a hadith where the prophet said โthe best way is not one extreme nor is it the other extreme, but rather the middle wayโThese "ordinary muslims" you refer to are likely westernised muslims, like muslim women who dont wear a hijab, they are not real muslims. They don't even follow the practices of their own religion.
The true muslims are the jihadists in the middle east, they follow islam properly and slay the nonbelievers. Because these people identify themselves with islam which is morally flawed I dislike all of them.
"Religion of peace"
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We both know that you are a closeted faggot now bend the knee
Oohhh ohh look how violent this guy is please help me oohhh ohh religion of peace5'6
But as a sub3 halfbreed you shouldnt be talking
Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush"hmmm so if theyโre not isis theyโre not muslim? and according to what standard? the prophet himself signed multiple treaties with non muslims, offered protection to christians and told believers to avoid disrespecting other faiths. their is a hadith where the prophet said โthe best way is not one extreme nor is it the other extreme, but rather the middle wayโ
by your logic 99% of muslims arenโt real believers because they arenโt going around cutting heads off?
the vast majority of muslims condemn extremism. even my mom who is a religious woman makes fun of the niqab, and men with those super long unkempt jihadi beards. most muslims look down on those types as khawarij
Fym?Clearly this thread hit a nerve i knew you were gay "ethnicwarrior" this thread was made exactly for you
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Ohhhh sarrr me. Doo crusadesSurah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush"
Don't try to paint muhammad as a peaceful man, there are countless verses that prove otherwise, he was known to invade and conquer lands.
If you do not follow the practices of your religion, you are not a true follower of that religion. Is a "christian" who doesnt believe in Jesus Christ a true christian? Of course he isnt.



Nobody said that. What Prophet does called a Sunnah which is good. The thing that guy showed is Daโif (not authentic), most authentic ones are called Sahih for example โSahih Al BukhariโB-but bro... they said what the prophet did doesn't represent Islam!!
U just showed that Algeria isnโt Muslim at its people claim to be nothing elseWe both know that you are a closeted faggot now bend the knee
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ISIS is founded by Jews. ISIS attacked almost every part of the world including Muslim countries but never Israel. Gaytanyahu could have make it less obvious but this time he failed lmaohmmm so if theyโre not isis theyโre not muslim? and according to what standard? the prophet himself signed multiple treaties with non muslims, offered protection to christians and told believers to avoid disrespecting other faiths. their is a hadith where the prophet said โthe best way is not one extreme nor is it the other extreme, but rather the middle wayโ
by your logic 99% of muslims arenโt real believers because they arenโt going around cutting heads off?
the vast majority of muslims condemn extremism. even my mom who is a religious woman makes fun of the niqab, and men with those super long unkempt jihadi beards. most muslims look down on those types as khawarij
None of the hadiths are authentic, argued by Ignaz Golder, a proponent of islam as well.Nobody said that. What Prophet does called a Sunnah which is good. The thing that guy showed is Daโif (not authentic), most authentic ones are called Sahih for example โSahih Al Bukhariโ
an argument muslims make is those verses apply to active declarations of war at the time when muslims were fighting the polytheists. even the founder of the muslim brotherhood said these verses only applied to the pagansSurah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush"
Don't try to paint muhammad as a peaceful man, there are countless verses that prove otherwise, he was known to invade and conquer lands, forcing people to pay jizya or be slaughtered
If you do not follow the practices of your religion, you are not a true follower of that religion. Is a "christian" who doesnt believe in Jesus Christ a true christian? Of course he isnt.
Or literally 9:12so long as they are steadfast with you, be steadfast with them. Indeed Allah loves the Godwary.
But if they break their pledges after their having made a treaty and revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unfaithโindeed, they have no [commitment to] pledges,โmaybe they will desist.
Lmao why are you changing verses literally to just win the argumentSurah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush"
niggas be crying about hypergamy but when Islam tax high status-rich people itโs something not normalforcing people to pay jizya or be slaughtered
Sunnah means habit/tradition so it doesnโt exactly depends on hadith but yeah most hadith tells us about most Sunnahs of the Prophet but NOT all of them.None of the hadiths are authentic
who tfโฆargued by Ignaz Golder, a proponent of islam as well.
PossibleSunnah means habit/tradition so it doesnโt exactly depends on hadith but yeah most hadith tells us about most Sunnahs of the Prophet but NOT all of them.
Genetic fallacyโHungarian Jewishโ![]()
Ad hominemDid u really read his works or you believe him cuz his words match your beliefs but he just looks smarter so u can mention his name everytime when you speak![]()
Ad hominem
I'm not required to answer your question
It wasthere was no โad hominemโ my friend we chill
^^Did u really read his works or you believe him cuz his words match your beliefs but he just looks smarter so u can mention his name everytime when you spea
DudeI'm not required to answer your question
Yeah because you do matter in this case since you mentioned him. If u have read his books then I will listen to you if not then Iโm not taking seriously ts. Even tho u can lie but u can enlighten me why would I consider his opinions rather than Arab/Persian scientists who know Arabic naturally (which is really required to understand Qurโan and hadith) plus from WHO and WHERE he learned Islam.It was
You focused on me instead of my argument
RightDude
Ur not required to answer me in any case since ur not forced to. It would be something logical to say if I used some violence against u to answer me or if there was rules saying u have to answer. Free choice over here.
You either answer or not. Others just move on.
Why would I matter in this discussion?Yeah because you do matter in this case since you mentioned him. If u have read his books then I will listen to you if not then Iโm not taking seriously ts. Even tho u can lie but u can enlighten me why would I consider his opinions rather than Arab/Persian scientists who know Arabic naturally (which is really required to understand Qurโan and hadith) plus from WHO and WHERE he learned Islam.
an argument muslims make is those verses apply to active declarations of war at the time when muslims were fighting the polytheists. even the founder of the muslim brotherhood said these verses only applied to the pagans
How could you not fight a people who have broken their oaths, who tried to drive the Messenger out, who attacked you first? Do you fear them? It is God you should fear if you are true believers - Quran 9:13
Or literally in 9:7
Or literally 9:12
Never said Muhammad was perfect nor am I defending every action or saying of his
Believing in Jesus is an essential to being a Christian just like believing in Allah is essential to being a Muslim. A Muslim is a servant of God. That is all. Killing or murder is not a prerequisite for faith
The escape clause is "repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax." That means the only way a polytheist avoids being killed is by converting to Islam. Convert or die. That is in the verse you just corrected me withLmao why are you changing verses literally to just win the argument
Real verse:
But once the Sacred Months have passed, kill the polytheists หนwho violated their treatiesหบ wherever you find them,1 capture them, besiege them, and lie in wait for them on every way. But if they repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax, then set them free. Indeed, Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
KILL THE PAGANS WHO VIOLATED THE TREATIES
Because youโre a discussant and part of this discussion. โThe Socratic Methodโ.Why would I matter in this discussion?
This is how we know you havenโt.My argument does not change whether I read his works or not.
Well I never said he was biased and I never ignored what he saidIgnaz had genuine passion towards Islam. You can't call him biased and ignoring what he said, you can do the same with muslim scholars as well.
Pretty hasty generalization don't you thinkThis is how we know you havenโt.
It does tho, why would you consider someoneโs opinion if he hasnโt experienced it?
You said you're not gonna listen to me if I haven't read his works.Because youโre a discussant and part of this discussion. โThe Socratic Methodโ.
So?The discussions about Hadithโs relevance were and are going for centuries which even determines the domestic policy of States (Iran and Saudi Arabia as an example)
I've built my view already, long ago, even when I was a mudslime myself.So It IS something u should first read, explore about and then built a view.
Explain why you pointed out "he's a jewish hungarian tho" and the fact that "he didn't experience it".Well I never said he was biased and I never ignored what he said
I'm more focused on your integrity and sincerity now, we have shifted the goalposts.As I said, you can enlighten me and Iโm here to listen.
Itโs funny I have to correct you again. I wanna let you know that Iโm not here to prove that Islam is a peaceful religion but itโs a FAIR religion. Now, read carefully and pay attention:The escape clause is "repent, perform prayers, and pay alms-tax." That means the only way a polytheist avoids being killed is by converting to Islam. Convert or die. That is in the verse you just corrected me with
I was referring to you actuallyPretty hasty generalization don't you think
He experienced what?
U know what I noticed u ignore the whole message of my post where I put a logical chain between the words.You said you're not gonna listen to me if I haven't read his works.
Justify how the state of me reading his work affects my argument which you would refuse to elaborate on.
Albanian or Bosnian? Just curiousI've built my view already, long ago, even when I was a mudslime myself.
I was joking about his ethnicity. It could play a huge role though.Explain why you pointed out "he's a jewish hungarian tho" and the fact that "he didn't experience it".
Clearly you would only mention these if you believe he's biased. Mention an excuse that would prove otherwise.
I'm more focused on your integrity and sincerity now, we have shifted the goalposts.
Well now you knowe discussion is going for centuries so you have to be really educated here and I wanted to know how educated u were.
Fallacies between the chains thoU know what I noticed u ignore the whole message of my post where I put a logical chain between the words.
I am not biased, and you cannot decree that from me being anti-islamist nor a JBW-piller, which JBWpiller is arguably objectiveKnowing that u followed his ideas without reading his books will show how biased u are. U are already known as a JBW piller and anti-islamist so basically Ignazโs ideas are just doing you a favor to make your beliefs stronger. So basically it would be a waste of time? But I still donโt know how biased you are itโs just an assumption.
Neither am I, I'm not sure if you are trying to achieve moral superiority or being performative.Iโm not Muslim and not for JBW neither JBE. I donโt hate anyone and Iโm open for any opinions.
In?I was joking about his ethnicity. It could play a huge role though.
NeitherAlbanian or Bosnian? Just curious
Difficult to conclude when you fabricate (construct) arguments from fallacyIโm sincere kinda tired though.
It does matter. Racist and atheists can follow ideas blindly. Yes what theyโre saying could POSSIBLY be correct but how do I discuss it with them if theyโre following blindly?And even if I was extremely, that still doesn't matter, you're way too focused on me, and not my substance. A racist can be correct, an ableist can be correct. I don't want you to say things like "that proves that you are these qualities" and it seems like we have focused on
Bro idgaf. We can come back to the main topic already since we made everything clearYou showcasing me and your traits is pretty useless to the substance, in my perspective, it looks like you're trying to gain the moral hand to show you're superior near these 10 people lurking in this thread
Not saying it played a huge role for Ignaz. It was just a separate statement that ethnicity plays a big role in the formation of opinions. Like you wouldnโt be surprised if an Arab hates Jews or a Jew hates Arabs

Bias does not mean following something blindlyIt does matter. Racist and atheists can follow ideas blindly. Yes what theyโre saying could POSSIBLY be correct but how do I discuss it with them if theyโre following blindly?
This is a different analogyOr to make it clearer for you Muslim can be right maybe Allah is real after all BUT he follows it blindly that itโs just painful to discuss it with him. So yeah it does matter and hope it helps to not waste the time in the future in order to avoid freaks![]()
NoBro idgaf. We can come back to the main topic already since we made everything clear
I wouldn't really care if an arab hated jewsNot saying it played a huge role for Ignaz. It was just a separate statement that ethnicity plays a big role in the formation of opinions. Like you wouldnโt be surprised if an Arab hates Jews or a Jew hates Arabs![]()
Arabs and other MENAoids have always been gay pedos, long before Islam and probably after it too. Check this out :whats with muslims wanting to fuck goats, small girls and guys?![]()
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Richard Francis Burton - Wikipedia
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The "Sotadic Zone" of Burton encompassed the Mediterranean coastlines of Southern Europe and North Africa, the entire region of the Levant, larger areas of the Middle East and Asia, and all of the Americas.
Burton theorised about the existence of a "Sotadic zone" in the closing essay of his English translation of The Arabian Nights(1885โ1886).[74][75] He asserted that there exists a geographic-climatic zone in which sodomy and pederasty (sexual intimacy between older men and young pubescent/adolescent boys) are endemic,[74][75] prevalent,[74][75] and celebrated among the indigenous inhabitants and within their cultures.[75]
muslimArabs and other MENAoids have always been gay pedos, long before Islam and probably after it too. Check this out :
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