Why do men focused on looks often go mentally ill (example)

[6.5PSL]

Women, of course, care about looks much much more than men on average but for some reason are mentally stable about it even though they think about it more. Compare women's looksmaxxing communities to men's. Vindicta/VindictaRateMe is very tame and most women there are actually improving and helping other people improve and they actually get results. People on here are much more likely to just make fun of someone and most make very few actual improvements.


I randomly saw this guy on TikTok when scrolling and recognized him from his mewing post on Reddit

https://i.redd.it/zutxf716v1481.jpg

Despite improvements, check his reddit post history, he is mentally ill and suicidal and wants to hit his own face because of how he looks. It's like another James sapphire because he unironically posted this on TikTok:



Not sure why this happens, but I've seen it many times.

 

[6.5PSL]

Reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/iHolyPopcorni

 

[Deleted member 18244]

Because a female’s long term happiness isn’t as dependent on their looks as a male’s.

 

[6.5PSL]

Because a female’s long term happiness isn’t as dependent on their looks as a male’s.

Not true. Women's happiness is much more dependent on looks. Are you serious?

 

[Deleted member 17578]

Not true. Women's happiness is much more dependent on looks. Are you serious?

Proof?

Looks are far more important for men. Anyone should know this

 

[6.5PSL]

Another example is AstroSky. He just seems so odd after his looks focused journey. He unironically posted this picture:

 

[Amexmaxx]

Lol

 

[6.5PSL]

Proof?

Looks are far more important for men. Anyone should know this

Honestly, you're dumb. You've been deluded to hell and back by this site if you think that. Women's life revolves around their looks. Their whole worth is largely determined by looks. Their social status is so looks based. Not even close for men.

 

[Deleted member 13158]

Once you go black u never go back

 

[Deleted member 19036]

Not true. Women's happiness is much more dependent on looks. Are you serious?

theres little to not ltr in 2022, all you got is betabuxx and married cuckoldry

 

[6.5PSL]

Once you go black u never go back

Yeah just saying idk why men go mentally ill after it. Women already know their looks matter to an insane degree and don't go crazy over it.

 

[Deleted member 19036]

Yeah just saying idk why men go mentally ill after it. Women already know their looks matter to an insane degree and don't go crazy over it.

they can always cope with someone even tho he is not chad. but man can't always cope, sometimes they can't even cope even a bit. thats the exact explanation you looking for

 

[Deleted member 9801]

Yeah just saying idk why men go mentally ill after it. Women already know their looks matter to an insane degree and don't go crazy over it.

Guess cause most men are bluepilled to start with…women have blackpilled ingrained from birth in a way so they can cope better than normie men who just discover their life is determined by their looks level

 

[6.5PSL]

they can always cope with someone even tho he is not chad. but man can't always cope, sometimes they can't even cope even a bit. thats the exact explanation you looking for

True, I think men just tend to go mentally ill more often regardless of what it is too. What women rot on 4chan among other things? They are much more likely to have friends to talk to about their problems

 

[Deleted member 13158]

Yeah just saying idk why men go mentally ill after it. Women already know their looks matter to an insane degree and don't go crazy over it.

Cus men are more like perfectionists. U see these issues even with bodybuilders that have top 1% bodies. “You’re never as big as your pump” Rich Piana probably

Now switch that out with your face which you see every day in reflections. No clothes for ur face

 

[6.5PSL]

Cus men are more like perfectionists. U see these issues even with bodybuilders that have top 1% bodies. “You’re never as big as your pump” Rich Piana probably

Now switch that out with your face which you see every day in reflections.

Yeah, maybe it's because men see themselves too objectively. Women could be a 5/10 but believe they are beautiful but once the man has the idea of facial rating tiers in his mind he can never get it out and will always be aware of where he is. The woman has no objective or structural tier, just that she's pretty

 

[Deleted member 13158]

Yeah, maybe it's because men see themselves too objectively. Women could be a 5/10 but believe they are beautiful but once the man has the idea of facial rating tiers in his mind he can never get it out and will always be aware of where he is. The woman has no objective or structural tier, just that she's pretty

Exactly and women always have bunch of yes men feeding into that delusion
Yass kweeen
So gorgeous
+1000 of men in dms feeding them fake compliments for nudes or a crumb

Whereas men are complimented on dimorphism(height/body) rarely on face by other men. Ofc foids will love a pretty face and openly say it tho

 

[Deleted member 19036]

Yeah, maybe it's because men see themselves too objectively. Women could be a 5/10 but believe they are beautiful but once the man has the idea of facial rating tiers in his mind he can never get it out and will always be aware of where he is. The woman has no objective or structural tier, just that she's pretty

that has nothing to do with genders, its about the society. think about a scenerio that you open your Instagram everyday to see at least 5 different possible sexual partners that hittin on you givin iois on dm's

 

[Deleted member 19036]

Exactly and women always have bunch of yes men feeding into that delusion
Yass kweeen
So gorgeous
+1000 of men in dms feeding them fake compliments for nudes or a crumb

Whereas men only are complimented on dimorphism(height/body) rarely on face by other men. Ofc foids will love a pretty face and openly say it tho

and also this, yes kweeen teeheeee

 

[6.5PSL]

Exactly and women always have bunch of yes men feeding into that delusion
Yass kweeen
So gorgeous
+1000 of men in dms feeding them fake compliments for nudes or a crumb

True. Another point I was trying to make though with the guy I showed, James Sapphire, and Astro Sky is that some mentally ill looksmaxxers actually start having LESS appeal due to trying to look a certain way. They start trying to get this uncanny, hollow cheek look that actually is NOT ATTRACTIVE. I know what women find attractive, most women would not find that picture I posted of AstroSky attractive at all. For some reason a lot of looksmaxxers looksmin due to their mental illnesses trying to become their weird morph. Some women do the same, usually it's the women with weird lip fillers look but it's the same concept in that they are looksminning when trying to looksmaxx.

 

[DwayneWhite55]

He got the James sapphire special

 

[Deleted member 19036]

BRUH, I HAVE CHECKED INSTA ACC'S OF 5 FUCKING DIFFERENT GIRLS 15-26. Guess what, dm and follow requests each were over 30 on each of them. some was low some was high inhib. suifuel

 

[looksmaxxed]

high neuroticism, pre existing vulnerable narcissism

 

[Ottoman Janissary]

women are much less mentally stable

 

[Deleted member 17578]

Honestly, you're dumb. You've been deluded to hell and back by this site if you think that. Women's life revolves around their looks. Their whole worth is largely determined by looks. Their social status is so looks based. Not even close for men.

I don't see any proof in your post.

Maybe go back to school and learn how to read before you start calling people dumb, faggot.

 

[6.5PSL]

I don't see any proof in your post.

Maybe go back to school and learn how to read before you start calling people dumb, faggot.

Proof? It's a pretty understood concept, doesn't really need proof. If your mind is based on reality, you obviously know this to be true. I understand because you're focused on it a lot you may think the opposite, but it is definitely true. Women focus their whole lives on looks.

 

[looksmaxxed]

looks is equally as important to men and wymxn. men just experience the downsides more severely because they don't have safety nets that wymxn do from all the simps and welfare. but ugly wymxn are in a worse situation than men overall because they can't fall back on skills, talents, iq, strength, stress tolerance, etc, etc that men can to survive and thrive. this is why females have evolved to be very hot with pornstar bodies

 

[eyebagcel]

men aren’t supposed to care about looks we’re supposed to build kill and conquer

 

[6.5PSL]

looks is equally as important to men and wymxn. men just experience the downsides more severely because they don't have safety nets that wymxn do from all the simps and welfare. but ugly wymxn are in a worse situation than men overall because they can't fall back on skills, talents, iq, strength, stress tolerance, etc, etc that men can to survive and thrive. this is why females have evolved to be very hot with pornstar bodies

Would definitely not say it's equal. Men can attract with a more diverse set of characterists: wealth, fame, status, being funny etc. Women know looks is all the have to attract and focus their lives around it (makeup everyday + nails + hair done + eyelashes done + brows done + shopping all the time + filters....) It's so commonplace I don't think you're recognizing that women's lives literally revolve around their looks

 

[Deleted member 17578]

Proof? It's a pretty understood concept, doesn't really need proof. If your mind is based on reality, you obviously know this to be true. I understand because you're focused on it a lot you may think the opposite, but it is definitely true. Women focus their whole lives on looks.

Some women focussing their whole lives on looks has nothing to do whether looks matter more for women or for men. You are wrong

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Proof? It's a pretty understood concept, doesn't really need proof. If your mind is based on reality, you obviously know this to be true. I understand because you're focused on it a lot you may think the opposite, but it is definitely true. Women focus their whole lives on looks.

Men have less copes and the world is brutal for us, nobody feels sorry for men we have to “Man Up” it’s a shitty situation to be in tbh women get a lot of support and even ugly girls are told they are hot. Ugly guys the most they get is told by a bluepilled boomer that “looks for men doesn’t matter and to make money” yeah right thanks very much JFL that really upped my confidence boomer just become a walking ATM for women . Shit like this is why men cannot accept the BlackPill without it rotting their brain somewhat women are naturally blackpilled and get support and simps

 

[6.5PSL]

Some women focussing their whole lives on looks has nothing to do whether looks matter more for women or for men. You are wrong

I agree that just focusing on something inherently doesn't make it more true, but the fact still remains that looks take up a higher percentage of the worth of a woman than a man, it's just obvious if you have a basic understanding of social dynamics

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Isn't it obvious?

There is no such thing as a "femcel". In the female looksmaxxing communities they alll already have boyfriends. They have a good social circle, bf and are reasonably happy. They looksmaxx because they are chadsexual. They want a chad, not a normie. They could get fat and it wouldn't even matter. They would be able to get a normie. Living as a woman is tutorial mode. You are flooded with attention and affection from day 1. Everything in life is handed to you on a plate.

For male looksmaxxing communities most of us have nothing. Many looksmaxx with little results because the standards can be so high. U spend money, time and dedicate mental bandwidth to an endeavour with no results. Imagine being 40 percentile looks then u social-maxx, gym-maxx, soft-maxx, drop 10k on jaw surgery and u ascend to 60 percentile smv. It's still not enough. it's never enough and that's what drives ppl over the edge. Makes them loony like buggz bunny.

 

[TITUS]

It's called narcissism, perfection is unattainable and if you lose touch with reality, your concept of perfection will be an aberrant mockery of beauty.

 

[Lygodactylus]

Women, of course, care about looks much much more than men on average but for some reason are mentally stable about it even though they think about it more. Compare women's looksmaxxing communities to men's. Vindicta/VindictaRateMe is very tame and most women there are actually improving and helping other people improve and they actually get results. People on here are much more likely to just make fun of someone and most make very few actual improvements.


I randomly saw this guy on TikTok when scrolling and recognized him from his mewing post on Reddit

https://i.redd.it/zutxf716v1481.jpg

Despite improvements, check his reddit post history, he is mentally ill and suicidal and wants to hit his own face because of how he looks. It's like another James sapphire because he unironically posted this on TikTok:



Not sure why this happens, but I've seen it many times.

Jeesus. You can see the narcissism in his face.

 

[Deleted member 17578]

Men have less copes and the world is brutal for us, nobody feels sorry for men we have to “Man Up” it’s a shitty situation to be in tbh women get a lot of support and even ugly girls are told they are hot. Ugly guys the most they get is told by a bluepilled boomer that “looks for men doesn’t matter and to make money” yeah right thanks very much JFL that really upped my confidence boomer just become a walking ATM for women . Shit like this is why men cannot accept the BlackPill without it rotting their brain somewhat women are naturally blackpilled and get support and simps

I really have no clue how people like @6.5PSL can still be bluepilled in the modern world.

You can make a tinder chadfish right now and experience what life is like when you are a good-looking male. If you are an average-looking male the only experience you will have on tinder is 0 matches.
The idea that somehow status/money/talent/iq/whatever is more relevant than looks is a complete joke.

And this also applies to most other things in life that involve social interaction. Looks are key to the way anything you do is perceived by others. And as a man your life is simply much less forgiving, making looks that much more important.

 

[6.5PSL]

Isn't it obvious?

There is no such thing as a "femcel". In the female looksmaxxing communities they alll already have boyfriends. They have a good social circle, bf and are reasonably happy. They looksmaxx because they are chadsexual. They want a chad, not a normie. They could get fat and it wouldn't even matter. They would be able to get a normie. Living as a woman is tutorial mode. You are flooded with attention and affection from day 1. Everything in life is handed to you on a plate.

For male looksmaxxing communities most of us have nothing. Many looksmaxx with little results because the standards can be so high. U spend money, time and dedicate mental bandwidth to an endeavour with no results. Imagine being 40 percentile looks then u social-maxx, gym-maxx, soft-maxx, drop 10k on jaw surgery and u ascend to 60 percentile smv. It's still not enough. it's never enough and that's what drives ppl over the edge. Makes them loony like buggz bunny.

Right, but what explains the looksminning resulting from attempting to looksmaxx? Some of these men seem to not actually understand what women find attractive and end up being uncanny (Sapphire, this guy, Astro Sky etc etc). Why do you think they lose grip with what is actually appealing?

 

[6.5PSL]

I really have no clue how people like @6.5PSL can still be bluepilled in the modern world.

You can make a tinder chadfish right now and experience what life is like when you are a good-looking male. If you are an average-looking male the only experience you will have on tinder is 0 matches.
The idea that somehow status/money/talent/iq/whatever is more relevant than looks is a complete joke.

And this also applies to most other things in life that involve social interaction. Looks are key to the way anything you do is perceived by others. And as a man your life is simply much less forgiving, making looks that much more important.

Right, you're not understanding the distinction though. Women's baseline for attracting men is lower so despite it mattering more for them, they can still have more results. Just because it takes more for a man to equal a women doesn't mean looks matter more for men. I'm claiming that when ranking a woman in terms of value or social hierarchy, her looks play a much bigger role than a man's due. That is reality. I am not stupid, I understand men have it harder in the dating market. That doesn't negate what I just said though

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Right, but what explains the looksminning resulting from attempting to looksmaxx? Some of these men seem to not actually understand what women find attractive and end up being uncanny (Sapphire, this guy, Astro Sky etc etc). Why do you think they lose grip with what is actually appealing?

They are misinformed and only have a surface normie-level understanding of aesthetics. Same reason a lot of recessed men get rhinoplasty, but they need to work done on their lower third

 

[Deleted member 19036]

Right, but what explains the looksminning resulting from attempting to looksmaxx? Some of these men seem to not actually understand what women find attractive and end up being uncanny (Sapphire, this guy, Astro Sky etc etc). Why do you think they lose grip with what is actually appealing?

1st they were maxing to mog men instead of getting women
2nd sometimes people on looksmax communuties say delusional arguments like "you should look like an ogre Chad, not a prettyboy or its over" or the opposite even though individuals pheno and facial structure is not oriented into that specific way
etc

 

[6.5PSL]

They are misinformed and only have a surface normie-level understanding of aesthetics. Same reason a lot of recessed men get rhinoplasty, but they need to work done on their lower third

Maybe, but it appears to me even many people on this site have no true understanding of appeal. MUH "PSL", but people don't focus on how a man is actually appealing. Many PSL gods would not be considered amazing to women and the hierarchy we create for men would actually be somewhat unpredictable from Chadlite-Gigachad in how women find them appealing

 

[Xangsane]

Reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/iHolyPopcorni

He's got 12k followers on tiktok

 

[6.5PSL]

He's got 12k followers on tiktok

Yeah, he's still not happy though.

 

[Xangsane]

Yeah, he's still not happy though.

I bet most people following him are women

 

[Xangsane]

Yeah, he's still not happy though.

I'm gonna read though his reddit when I get home

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Because they are narcissists who can't learn to appreciate what they have and can only think about themselves. The one's who never learn this lesson in life reincarnate as a 5’5 currycel after death.

 

[6.5PSL]

Because they are narcissists who can't learn to appreciate what they have and can only think about themselves. The one's who never learn this lesson in life reincarnate as a 5’5 currycel after death.

Why do you think being narcissistic causes you to have a distorted view of attraction though? It's just like the people on this forum trying to get the Ramirez look but it ends up looking uncanny and most women would think they look scary.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

What women rot on 4chan among other things?

just you

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

Maybe, but it appears to me even many people on this site have no true understanding of appeal. MUH "PSL", but people don't focus on how a man is actually appealing. Many PSL gods would not be considered amazing to women and the hierarchy we create for men would actually be somewhat unpredictable from Chadlite-Gigachad in how women find them appealing

Yeah, it's female vs male gaze. Also socialisation variables impacts what a culture finds attractive. So looksmax is a melting pot of ppl from every shithole in the world coming together to discuss a universal standard. It's well documented that third world cultures have a proclivity towards a masculine beauty standard because of the need for a mate to provide security and protection. In the west we got welfare state, security, basic needs and nanny state to help women with everything.

In West ideal is maesthetic. I think most ppl acknowledge now that u need a robust lower third, high trust eye area, favourable pheno (contrasting features - i.e. light eyes and tanned skin), youthful features and high level of facial averagness. That's the formula for attractiveness, and as other areas of the world become more affluent it will become the global standard.

Final point... intrasexual vs intersexual competition. Men see the biggest, most brutish ogre as the biggest threat, so assume he has the msot SMV. It's our ape brains at work. Whereas women are hardcoded to see health in a maesthetic chad with perfect collagen, NW0 thick + dense hair and a very lean FACE.

So yh people here have a flawed perception on what is attractive. Those ppl like tiktok man in OP is mentally ill so they can take those mis perceptions to the extreme.

 

[Deleted member 17578]

I'm claiming that when ranking a woman in terms of value or social hierarchy, her looks play a much bigger role than a man's due.

The most popular men also tend to be the better looking men of a social hierarchy. I am really not convinced there's a difference.