Why do people believe that there is no free will but then believe animals are inherently more innocent then humans?

[Deleted member 14693]

Doesn't make sense to think this way

@thenewhebbe

 

[thenewhebbe]

Why is it dumb. Btw I don't hold the postion that animals are innocent

 

[Deleted member 14693]

Why is it dumb.

Cause if there is no free will anyone is innocent

 

[gribsufer1]

free will doesnt exist, if you were born as scher6 had his dna and kife exoerience u would have rooed too

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Good question

 

[Deleted member 15067]

 

[Myth]

We are the only species that actively commit suicide, I feel as if that has got something to with us having free will or not.

 

[Myth]

free will doesnt exist, if you were born as scher6 had his dna and kife exoerience u would have rooed too

This is retarded, many people uglier and who have it worse have not roped.

 

[thenewhebbe]

Cause if there is no free will anyone is innocent

We are our genes and enverioment

 

[Deleted member 28896]

We are the only species that actively commit suicide, I feel as if that has got something to with us having free will or not.

Don't group me with pussies who rope.
We are not the same.

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Sentience is a spectrum. Higher sentience = higher perceived responsibility

This means that human behavior is more easily influenced by very basic environmental stimuli (reading a collection of scribbles on a piece of paper—words—can significantly affect behavior for the entire life of an individual). This is obviously determined by the genes of the individual, though.

 

[Deleted member 14693]

We are the only species that actively commit suicide, I feel as if that has got something to with us having free will or not.

Nope, its our environment. In the past, when we still lived in nature, humans didn't commit suicide

 

[Reckless Turtle]

In the past, when we still lived in nature, humans didn't commit suicide

This is likely incorrect but isn't possible to verify.

 

[Deleted member 14693]

This is likely incorrect but isn't possible to verify.

Why is this likely?

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Why is this likely?

Because you're arguing that modern social conditions are the causal factor behind suicide, but depression (and suicide) have hereditary correlations.

And you haven't provided arguments for the specific factors in modern society that lead to suicide. Primitive humans still lived in social groupings.

 

[Deleted member 14693]

And you haven't provided arguments for the specific factors in modern society that lead to suicide. Primitive humans still lived in social groupings.

Modern lifestyle and nutrition are, not social groupings. Social groupings are good for your mental health

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Modern lifestyle and nutrition are

These probably contribute, but genetic predispositions cannot be ignored.