Why do people who take roids here say it doesn’t rape collagen and people who don’t take it say it does?

[rayman]

Only thing I’m worried about after collagen is my natural test not recovering and also losing all my gains

If I put my body through a lot of stress and wear and tear just to lose all the muscle I would be fucking pissed.

 

[Deleted member 18361]

test has legit no direct impact on collagen

unless someone can find me a study that says TESTOSTERONE not the aromatization

estrogen has always been the hormone for aging

 

[andy9432]

test has legit no direct impact on collagen

unless someone can find me a study that says TESTOSTERONE not the aromatization

estrogen has always been the hormone for aging

So trannies age faster?

 

[Deleted member 18361]

So trannies age faster?

trannies also get prescribed progesterone in their “transition treatment” which balances the hormones

progesterone is actually the hormone in charge of the feminization features in the face

 

[rayman]

trannies also get prescribed progesterone in their “transition treatment”

progesterone is actually the hormone in charge of the feminization features in the face

Why do all BB look all old and disgusting

 

[Deleted member 18361]

Why do all BB look all old and disgusting

because theyre injecting, injectables contain polyunsaturated fatty acid oils and this blocks thyroid from functioning and you can google the aging effects of that

they’re injecting long esters which give more time for aromatization; conversion to estrogen

also lots are injecting HGH, a stress hormone and that ages the fuck out them

 

[rayman]

because theyre injecting, injectables contain polyunsaturated fatty acid oils and this blocks thyroid from functioning and you can google the aging effects of that

they’re injecting long esters which give more time for aromatization; conversion to estrogen

also lots are injecting HGH, a stress hormone and that ages the fuck out them

So you only advocate for orals?

HGH literally builds collagen I thought JFL

 

[Deleted member 18361]

So you only advocate for orals?

HGH literally builds collagen I thought JFL

transdermal

“Plastic surgeons have promoted the idea of injecting collagen into tissues with the argument that they are "replacing collagen lost with aging," but in fact collagen accumulates with aging. It is the greater compactness and stiffness of collagen in old skin that produces noticeable changes such as wrinkling.” Ray Peat

 

[rayman]

transdermal

“Plastic surgeons have promoted the idea of injecting collagen into tissues with the argument that they are "replacing collagen lost with aging," but in fact collagen accumulates with aging. It is the greater compactness and stiffness of collagen in old skin that produces noticeable changes such as wrinkling.” Ray Peat

U support injecting test or no

 

[Deleted member 18361]

U support injecting test or no

no

 

[stressftw]

because theyre injecting, injectables contain polyunsaturated fatty acid oils and this blocks thyroid from functioning and you can google the aging effects of that

they’re injecting long esters which give more time for aromatization; conversion to estrogen

also lots are injecting HGH, a stress hormone and that ages the fuck out them

What do you think about anecdotal evidence of ppl that claim better aging from Fin / Dut?

since fin / dut will increase your estrogen in around 10 ~ 12% through aromatization that wouldnt be maleficial for aging process?

I would assume that the excess DHT that is halted is more harmful for the skin than the increased estrogen, all those anedoctal evidences about aging in regards to fin/dut amazes me.

 

[szolliontaraelis]

no

pussy

 

[Deleted member 18361]

What do you think about anecdotal evidence of ppl that claim better aging from Fin / Dut?

since fin / dut will increase your estrogen in around 10 ~ 12% through aromatization that wouldnt be maleficial for aging process?

I would assume that the excess DHT that is halted is more harmful for the skin than the increased estrogen, all those anedoctal evidences about aging in regards to fin/dut amazes me.

early false puberty, bringing in some parts of the system in isolation

5 reductases, alpha & beta are central to well being, process of consciousness, orgasm function itself, brain development at its foundation

no such thing as excess DHT, your other essential hormones are just low.

pussy

yes its smarter to fill your body with oils, creating scar tissue and spending extra money on vials and syringes rather than doing my method of 100% absorption, no scars, no pufas, cheaper, require lower dosage, and no aromatization

 

[szolliontaraelis]

early false puberty, bringing in some parts of the system in isolation

5 reductases, alpha & beta are central to well being, process of consciousness, orgasm function itself, brain development at its foundation

no such thing as excess DHT, your other essential hormones are just low.


yes its smarter to fill your body with oils, creating scar tissue and spending extra money on vials and syringes rather than doing my method of 100% absorption, no scars, no pufas, cheaper, require lower dosage, and no aromatization

what u do???

 

[Deleted member 18361]

what u do???

crazy how that works

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

@decadouche57 thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 20368]

It doesn't fucking lol

It only makes your balls shrink

 

[xtremfailer]

you can see that almost any bodybuilder looks +10 years older than they are, they have this characteristic "excess" of skin that forms thick folds. They look acromegalic

 

[Deleted member 20368]

you can see that almost any bodybuilder looks +10 years older than they are, they have this characteristic "excess" of skin that forms thick folds. They look acromegalic

No they don't lmao steroids helps you a lot

 

[rayman]

No they don't lmao steroids helps you a lot

ur collagen hasn't honestly been raped at all after 4 years?

 

[lucidity]

So trannies age faster?

Actually trannies age better with eosteogen If you see their transformations on Reddit, for some reason they always look 20 years longer.

 

[Deleted member 20368]

Only issue with roids is ball shrinkage girls don't like that

 

[Dystopian]

early false puberty, bringing in some parts of the system in isolation

5 reductases, alpha & beta are central to well being, process of consciousness, orgasm function itself, brain development at its foundation

no such thing as excess DHT, your other essential hormones are just low.


yes its smarter to fill your body with oils, creating scar tissue and spending extra money on vials and syringes rather than doing my method of 100% absorption, no scars, no pufas, cheaper, require lower dosage, and no aromatization

Difficult to find transdermal test of quality

 

[Deleted member 18361]

Difficult to find transdermal test of quality

create

 

[Patient A]

what u do???

than doing my method of 100% absorption, no scars, no pufas, cheaper, require lower dosage, and no aromatization

??????? gel?

 

[Deleted member 18361]

??????? gel?

ur prolly the only nigga id tell on this forum tbh

 

[Foreverbrad]

Actually trannies age better with eosteogen If you see their transformations on Reddit, for some reason they always look 20 years longer.

Fakeup

 

[Deleted member 2268]

@decadouche57 thoughts?

Test doesn’t cause any collagen impact. Var and Primo help improve collagen.

I think if you stick to 250-500 mg test and throw in some var and use primo to control estro you’re more than good and may even improve collagen. I’m also a big fan of running Tret for anti-aging it will undo or prevent any aging from AAS

 

[Deleted member 2268]

Only issue with roids is ball shrinkage girls don't like that

Keep coping

 

[Deleted member 2268]

early false puberty, bringing in some parts of the system in isolation

5 reductases, alpha & beta are central to well being, process of consciousness, orgasm function itself, brain development at its foundation

no such thing as excess DHT, your other essential hormones are just low.


yes its smarter to fill your body with oils, creating scar tissue and spending extra money on vials and syringes rather than doing my method of 100% absorption, no scars, no pufas, cheaper, require lower dosage, and no aromatization

I agree running high doses of armotizable AAS is bad for aging. However this also depends on how the individual armotizes. I’ve never had the need for AI on 500 test.

Your claim about 5ari is innacurate. Most guys function very well on Fin/Dut while on TRT or with normal test levels. DHT has no value post puberty and even if so is backfilled by test. Sides from 5ar inhibitors are mental.

Idk why your overcomplicating this when someone can just run 250-500 test or a dosage where E2 is in range and get benefits

 

[Deleted member 18361]

I agree running high doses of armotizable AAS is bad for aging. However this also depends on how the individual armotizes. I’ve never had the need for AI on 500 test.

Your claim about 5ari is innacurate. Most guys function very well on Fin/Dut while on TRT or with normal test levels. DHT has no value post puberty and even if so is backfilled by test. Sides from 5ar inhibitors are mental.

Idk why your overcomplicating this when someone can just run 250-500 test or a dosage where E2 is in range and get benefits

on systemic dht, at 18, can tell you it definitely impacts your entire body when it comes to cognition, relaxation, strength aka all the attributes you’d want jfl

 

[Deleted member 2268]

on systemic dht, at 18, can tell you it definitely impacts your entire body when it comes to cognition, relaxation, strength aka all the attributes you’d want jfl

I said post puberty

 

[Deleted member 18361]

I said post puberty

im post puberty bud and these effects arent just gonna vanish if someone still taking it is post puberty jfl