Why does everyone here run test

[Bitterschön]

Shit nukes your collagen, no? Yea, Duta and GHK-CU exist but I heard thats not enough

 

[rira1]

Shit nukes your collagen, no? Yea, Duta and GHK-CU exist but I heard thats not enough

u can fix ur collagen later , can u fix ur bones later?no

 

[bimaxmaxxer]

Shit nukes your collagen, no? Yea, Duta and GHK-CU exist but I heard thats not enough

because they are too feminin too build muscle without drugs. no discipline, no long term thinking, and pure hedonistic mindset.

 

[Bitterschön]

because they are too feminin too build muscle without drugs. no discipline, no long term thinking, and pure hedonistic mindset.

I was a big mentalcel during my younger years, never used the chance to build muscles. Im now at an age where building muscles gets a bit harder if you have no base. What do u think is the move here.....

 

[Newday*V3]

How does Testosterone nuke your collagen?

 

[Bitterschön]

How does Testosterone nuke your collagen?

afaik the collagen lose is because dht inhibits elastin production in the skin

 

[svarddre]

Testosterone is literally life

 

[Bitterschön]

afaik the collagen lose is because dht inhibits elastin production in the skin

Thats why I thought Duta would be enough but some people say its not

 

[Bitterschön]

Testosterone is literally life

Yes I agree, depends on the amount tho. Ill just lean down to 10% body fat and see if its worth the risks in terms of face

 

[org3cel.RR]

Shit nukes your collagen, no? Yea, Duta and GHK-CU exist but I heard thats not enough

Collagen is easily fixed jfl, and test wont affect collagen much

u can fix ur collagen later , can u fix ur bones later?no

Exactly

because they are too feminin too build muscle without drugs. no discipline, no long term thinking, and pure hedonistic mindset.

Ah shut your bitch ass up like ppl here would take test for muhh muscles, thats the least important thing+muscles are useless no women cares about them. Just have low bf with good bones

afaik the collagen lose is because dht inhibits elastin production in the skin

You can just block dht

Thats why I thought Duta would be enough but some people say its not

depends

 

[svarddre]

Yes I agree, depends on the amount tho. Ill just lean down to 10% body fat and see if its worth the risks in terms of face

Low body fat % nukes your test. You may look good but you also might feel like shit

 

[Bitterschön]

depends

Could I start with 250mg Test E weekly and see how it goes from there? + Regular blood tests and shit...

Id do it mainly for my physique

add HGH, Duta and GHK-CU and some other based roids (Im not very familar with anything else than Test yet)

 

[bimaxmaxxer]

I was a big mentalcel during my younger years, never used the chance to build muscles. Im now at an age where building muscles gets a bit harder if you have no base. What do u think is the move here.....

Still staying natural is the move. Roiding is dangerous & not worth it at the end, I've never seen a roidhead proudly flexing in the mirror in my gym ever. Because there is nothing to be proud of. But if you wanna bodybuild for "looksmaxxing" sure go for it, but the risk of botching yourself is very high and an earlier death almost guaranteed.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Shit nukes your collagen, no? Yea, Duta and GHK-CU exist but I heard thats not enough

My test was 340ng/dl at 18

 

[number1bloatcel]

Cause its good for you run 1000mg a week bro

 

[stribor]

because they are too feminin too build muscle without drugs. no discipline, no long term thinking, and pure hedonistic mindset

kys retard

 

[Bitterschön]

My test was 340ng/dl at 18

Damn, mine was 563ng/dl in 2023 with 25+% bodyfat, vitamin d and magnesium deficiency + no movement/sports/gym

idk where i am now, prob well above 750 tbh

 

[Evgeniy291]

Damn, mine was 563ng/dl in 2023 with 25+% bodyfat, vitamin d and magnesium deficiency + no movement/sports/gym

idk where i am now, prob well above 750 tbh

Mine was 625 in 2023

Idk what happened sleep shit stress too so idk

 

[Bitterschön]

Mine was 625 in 2023

Idk what happened sleep shit stress too so idk

100% sleep and stress

sleep is too important man but imagine working until 4pm and then going to bed at 10pm, fuck this slavery life

 

[Evgeniy291]

100% sleep and stress

sleep is too important man but imagine working until 4pm and then going to bed at 10pm, fuck this slavery life

I work until 3 am

At least I earn 10x what avg guy earns in Russia

 

[chadisbeingmade]

It’s cope.

Take the necessary precautions and you can roid safely without looksminning yourself.

It starts with removing every molecule of DHT from your body.

You are as old as your collagen and hairline.

 

[Bitterschön]

It’s cope.

Take the necessary precautions and you can roid safely without looksminning yourself.

It starts with removing every molecule of DHT from your body.

You are as old as your collagen and hairline.

Thanks once again man

Can you vouch for a website or an org thread about roids?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Thanks once again man

Can you vouch for a website or an org thread about roids?

Not really. Many here are retarded and don’t know shit. They just echo what others have said, whether they are right or wrong. And bodybuilding sites don’t care about aesthetics and preserving their youth, just muh “get big as possible bro” while raping their hairline, skin, heath and becoming a bloated meatball.

There’s only a few things actually worth running.

but I would just run Test, GH and an AI (depending on E2 sensitivity/rate of aromatization) at first.

 

[Bitterschön]

Not really. Many here are retarded and don’t know shit. They just echo what others have said, whether they are right or wrong. And bodybuilding sites don’t care about aesthetics and preserving their youth, just muh “get big as possible bro” while raping their hairline, skin, heath and becoming a bloated meatball.

There’s only a few things actually worth running.

but I would just run Test, GH and an AI (depending on E2 sensitivity/rate of aromatization) at first.

I see

so do bloods first, grab enough test and gh for at least 12-15 weeks, have an AI ready and do bloods during your cycles as well? And I assume I gotta hop on Duta before starting with the cycle right?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

I see

so do bloods, grab enough test and gh for at least 12-15 weeks, have an AI ready and do bloods during your cycles as well? And I assume I gotta hop on Duta before starting with the cycle right?

GH isn’t necessary at all, but I would do it personally.

I always recommend blast and cruise, but are you planning on just running one cycle or B&C?

Yes, do bloods pre cycle. Have AI on hand. And do bloods on cycle.

You can start Duta with your cycle, or before, it doesn’t make a difference.

 

[Bitterschön]

GH isn’t necessary at all, but I would do it personally.

I always recommend blast and cruise, but are you planning on just running one cycle or B&C?

Yes, do bloods pre cycle. Have AI on hand. And do bloods on cycle.

You can start Duta with your cycle, or before, it doesn’t make a difference.

Not too sure about whether cycling or just B&C. The latter makes more sense to me as of now.

lll need to find an online website that sells blood tests, inb4 arguing with docs in Germany why Im getting my blood checked so often JFL.....

Bet Ill buy test, GH, AI and Duta, think Im using my china source tbh

Oh and get shredded first right? Heard you should be low bf% cuz of estrogens or some shit?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Oh and get shredded first right? Heard you should be low bf% cuz of estrogens or some shit?

Yes get as shredded as you can before starting. Will aromatize less as you said, and allows you more room to lean bulk while preserving facial leanness for as long as possible.

Bet Ill buy test, GH, AI and Duta, think Im using my china source tbh

Yup good ideal. Get life long supply for cheap asf.

Not too sure about whether cycling or just B&C. The latter makes more sense to me as of now.

Would defo recommend you B&C. Undo all the work the jews did in lowering our test levels.

 

[greycelzoomer]

it is the most basic and ancient looksmaxing methods other than the normie stuff

 

[superpsycho]

afaik the collagen lose is because dht inhibits elastin production in the skin

im low t and have shit collagen

 

[edodalic29]

Shit nukes your collagen, no? Yea, Duta and GHK-CU exist but I heard thats not enough

Duta alone is enough and ghk is super potent, these two together are kyrie and lebron for nuking dht . Ghk also has been shown to lower dht , while its primarly known for its collagen building properties. Nuking Dht + building collagen = reverse aging , collagen & elastin gains , and on top of that you will have a full head of hair and not only longer hair but thicker as well .

 

[Bitterschön]

Duta alone is enough and ghk is super potent, these two together are kyrie and lebron for nuking dht . Ghk also has been shown to lower dht , while its primarly known for its collagen building properties. Nuking Dht + building collagen = reverse aging , collagen & elastin gains , and on top of that you will have a full head of hair and not only longer hair but thicker as well .

Thanks man, sounds good. Ill blast and cruise 250mg for life. Just need to find out how to deal with blood tests in Germany (public laboratories only exist in big cities and shit…)