Why does he omit the most important point?

[Chinacurry]

Ie. That most men are sub 5 and nearly all men are sub 8?

 

[ascendedd]

all of the problems he stated comes from low confidence and low confidence comes from being unattractive

 

[Deleted member 23286]

most men are sub 5

Statistically speaking it's impossible for men on average to be sub-5.
BY DEFINITION the average is 5.

 

[Orc]

so are most women, on a scale of 1 to 10 the average person is a 2 or 3.

the difference being, men date down, women do not.

most women are also undesirable, but they don't feel that way because they think they'll get to settle with the guys that have sex with them eventually.

 

[ascension]

I always hear this cope but it's just not true. Most guys my age (mid-20's) are in the gym, eating healthy, have career aspirations or are trying to "grind" and "hustle". Self-improvement youtubers literally have millions and millions of subscribers, there's fitness and gym influencers with millions of followers, yet apparently the average guy is a loser.

 

[Deleted member 2381]

Statistically speaking it's impossible for men on average to be sub-5.
BY DEFINITION the average is 5.

More than 50% of modern men are incel

That means that not only are average guys incel, but so are above average guys

This doesn't even account for guys who are dating ugly or fat girls
Or guys who are being exploited for money and resources

In reality I'd estimate that at least 80% of guys are incel or their dating lives are so bad that they might as well be classed as incel

 

[johnsmithcel]

meh I see all kinds of subhuman normgroids with gfs. I never got the hypergamy thing. I don't see it at all irl.

 

[jojoyou]

I always hear this cope but it's just not true. Most guys my age (mid-20's) are in the gym, eating healthy, have career aspirations or are trying to "grind" and "hustle". Self-improvement youtubers literally have millions and millions of subscribers, there's fitness and gym influencers with millions of followers, yet apparently the average guy is a loser.

In the end it is always about the face

 

[Deleted member 2381]

I always hear this cope but it's just not true. Most guys my age (mid-20's) are in the gym, eating healthy, have career aspirations or are trying to "grind" and "hustle". Self-improvement youtubers literally have millions and millions of subscribers, there's fitness and gym influencers with millions of followers, yet apparently the average guy is a loser.

There are bro, in the UK at least

Most average guys I know literally don't get shit

Even HTNs are struggling with getting decent looking or slim girls

The dating market here is out of control

@DoctorLooksmax
@Chadethnic101

Blackpill these fools

 

[Deleted member 2381]

meh I see all kinds of subhuman normgroids with gfs. I never got the hypergamy thing. I don't see it at all irl.

I'm so sick of this cope

You do realise that these subhumans are being abused in the relationship. Exploited and whipped like dogs. These guys are barely getting any sex, and if they do, it's missionary starfish low effort trash

 

[johnsmithcel]

on a scale of 1 to 10 the average person is a 2 or 3.

 

[ascension]

There are bro, in the UK at least

Most average guys I know literally don't get shit

Even HTNs are struggling with getting decent looking or slim girls

The dating market here is out of control

That's my point, most guys in the UK are gymmaxed, grinding, hustling trying to make money, yet the guy in the OP (in the video) says the average guy is "overweight, loser, no ambition etc" - it's all a cope. They'll say anything to avoid the bottom line, which is that women's standards are crazy in 2022.

 

[Deleted member 2381]

The only two guys I know in real life who are actually dating an attractive girl is my 6'2 clean cut Chad friend, and even still, he mogs her. And my 6' friend who is a clean cut Chadlite facially + a lawyer earning great money

Every other guy is either incel, fucking a landwhale once ever 6 months, or dating some girl he mogs by 3 points

The standards nowadays are fucking insane

 

[johnsmithcel]

I'm so sick of this cope

You do realise that these subhumans are being abused in the relationship. Exploited and whipped like dogs. These guys are barely getting any sex, and if they do, it's missionary starfish low effort trash

Not at all lol. They get the treatment that PSL autists tell you that Chads get. I see women borderline worshiping their normie boyfriends, while the boyfriends seem indifferent, like they don't really give a fuck about the relationship.
What you're saying is what PSL autists tell themselves to cope with the fact that some normie that never heard what a maxilla is or never considered the horizontal length of his eyes lives a good life with frequent sex. I live in the UK too btw, this is literally the easiest place in Europe to get laid.

 

[Deleted member 2381]

Not at all lol. They get the treatment that PSL autists tell you that Chads get. I see women borderline worshiping their normie boyfriends, while the boyfriends seem indifferent, like they don't really give a fuck about the relationship.
What you're saying is what PSL autists tell themselves to cope with the fact that some normie that never heard what a maxilla is or never considered the horizontal length of his eyes lives a good life with frequent sex. I live in the UK too btw, this is literally the easiest place in Europe to get laid.

Most guys I know are cucked to hell by their gfs

Every guy I know who's in a LTR is turbo cucked by their gfs except one who is a blackpilled Chad Their gfs control them and control their finances, don't let them leave the house, don't let them cope with video games ect A few weeks ago my friend and his gf came to stay round my house. It was...

looksmax.org

 

[johnsmithcel]

The only two guys I know in real life who are actually dating an attractive girl is my 6'2 clean cut Chad friend, and even still, he mogs her. And my 6' friend who is a clean cut Chadlite facially + a lawyer earning great money

Every other guy is either incel, fucking a landwhale once ever 6 months, or dating some girl he mogs by 3 points

The standards nowadays are fucking insane

then the people you know are complete subhumans. I don't understand how you can sit here with a presumably straight face and say that dating in the fucking UK is difficult lmao

 

[Deleted member 2381]

Not at all lol. They get the treatment that PSL autists tell you that Chads get. I see women borderline worshiping their normie boyfriends, while the boyfriends seem indifferent, like they don't really give a fuck about the relationship.
What you're saying is what PSL autists tell themselves to cope with the fact that some normie that never heard what a maxilla is or never considered the horizontal length of his eyes lives a good life with frequent sex. I live in the UK too btw, this is literally the easiest place in Europe to get laid.

I get god like treatment when I step out of the UK

Every European country I've visted, I get treated like Maher himself in clubs

In the USA I was slaying a different girl every single night from real life alone, not even including OLD slays

Meanwhile in the UK, sometimes I could go out 15 times in a row and not get shit

 

[johnsmithcel]

Most guys I know are cucked to hell by their gfs

Every guy I know who's in a LTR is turbo cucked by their gfs except one who is a blackpilled Chad Their gfs control them and control their finances, don't let them leave the house, don't let them cope with video games ect A few weeks ago my friend and his gf came to stay round my house. It was...

looksmax.org

How old is the "Chadlite" and his girlfriend?

 

[Deleted member 2381]

then the people you know are complete subhumans. I don't understand how you can sit here with a presumably straight face and say that dating in the fucking UK is difficult lmao

Im talking about fucking hot white girls

Not subhuman beckies or ethnics that you're probably aiming for

 

[johnsmithcel]

I get god like treatment when I step out of the UK

Every European country I've visted, I get treated like Maher himself in clubs

In the USA I was slaying a different girl every single night from real life alone, not even including OLD slays

Meanwhile in the UK, sometimes I could go out 15 times in a row and not get shit

could be an autist then. We don't have a culture of accepting autists like in the US. Being NT is more important than looks.

Im talking about fucking hot girls

Not subhuman beckies that you're probably aiming for

There's barely any hot girls here lol. the hot ones are mostly foreigners. Even good looking guys date mostly 6/10s.

 

[Deleted member 23286]

In reality I'd estimate that at least 80% of guys are incel or their dating lives are so bad that they might as well be classed as incel

I think you're mixing your personal experience with these supposed statistics of inceldom, believe me, there are just as many (OK, nearly as many) airheaded men who get pussy, and vice versa.
You should think of ourselves as people who are more outspoken about our issues, rather than representatives for the whole male sex.

 

[Chinacurry]

The only two guys I know in real life who are actually dating an attractive girl is my 6'2 clean cut Chad friend, and even still, he mogs her. And my 6' friend who is a clean cut Chadlite facially + a lawyer earning great money

Every other guy is either incel, fucking a landwhale once ever 6 months, or dating some girl he mogs by 3 points

The standards nowadays are fucking insane

Similar, I don't see any guy truly kill it. No white guy is dating a decent white guy, no ethnic guy is dating a decent girl outside of his race.

My 6'2" white HTN back end developer friend descended super hard over the last 2 years because his wife cheated on him with a restaurant bad boy pak (who ditched her).

He is now dating and living together with a 44yr old tranny.

 

[Chinacurry]

I get god like treatment when I step out of the UK

Every European country I've visted, I get treated like Maher himself in clubs

In the USA I was slaying a different girl every single night from real life alone, not even including OLD slays

Meanwhile in the UK, sometimes I could go out 15 times in a row and not get shit

How u look bhai?

 

[johnsmithcel]

I think you're mixing your personal experience with these supposed statistics of inceldom, believe me, there are just as many (OK, nearly as many) airheaded men who get pussy, and vice versa.
You should think of ourselves as people who are more outspoken about our issues, rather than representatives for the whole male sex.

Niggas are overdosing on copium haha.

 

[Deleted member 2381]

could be an autist then. We don't have a culture of accepting autists like in the US. Being NT is more important than looks.


There's barely any hot girls here lol. the hot ones are mostly foreigners. Even good looking guys date mostly 6/10s.

'Autist' just lol

You obviously haven't been here long

 

[Deleted member 2381]

How u look bhai?

Me among normies

Gymcelled med in grey

 

[subtochad]

Statistically speaking it's impossible for men on average to be sub-5.
BY DEFINITION the average is 5.

This is false.
Studies have shown that women do NOT rate men on a statistical bell curve - most men are rated as below average.
To the perception of women, about 80% of men are straight up unattractive, 15% are cute/handsome, and 5% are highly attractive/hot.

 

[Orc]

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5 on a scale of 1 to 10 means neutral.

the average person doesn't look neutral, they're not neither attractive nor ugly, they are repulsive, fat and recessed.

appearance in humans isn't a bell curve, most people are not 5's.

 

[johnsmithcel]

'Autist' just lol

You obviously haven't been here long
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I don't care what some other autist on a forum for autists thinks about you. If you ended up on psl you're mentally retarded in some way. What you're going on about is just typical incel cope "muhh women r le hypergamous chads are betabuxxing/ getting cucked". it's all cope that incels tell themselves to feel better about their shit lives. You're from the fucking UK, the sluttiest place in Europe, where girls will suck you off for a drink. How often do you get approached in clubs?

 

[Deleted member 2381]

I don't care what some other autist on a forum for autists thinks about you. If you ended up on psl you're mentally retarded in some way. What you're going on about is just typical incel cope "muhh women r le hypergamous chads are betabuxxing/ getting cucked". it's all cope that incels tell themselves to feel better about their shit lives. You're from the fucking UK, the sluttiest place in Europe, where girls will suck you off for a drink. How often do you get approached in clubs?

Most times I go out, but by girls who I don't think are hot enough + I've had a gf for the past 5 years

Ferocious brag thread slayer tales - trigger warning

Post your most brutal brags / validating experiences ITT No holding back, no humbleness ect Mine: - Girl I got with at a festival (who had a boyfriend) came back to mine and told me I was the best looking guy she had ever met - Manage to slay the hottest girl on my uni course within 2 hours...

looksmax.org

 

[johnsmithcel]

Most times I go out, but by girls who I don't think are hot enough + I've had a gf for the past 5 years

Ferocious brag thread slayer tales - trigger warning

Post your most brutal brags / validating experiences ITT No holding back, no humbleness ect Mine: - Girl I got with at a festival (who had a boyfriend) came back to mine and told me I was the best looking guy she had ever met - Manage to slay the hottest girl on my uni course within 2 hours...

looksmax.org

Was that in the UK? you don't seem to be having problems here then.

 

[Dodevu]

Meanwhile a 3/10 landwhale has to lift her fat feet from under her covers to take a picture of her ugly feet whilst making 3x the amount of your salary.

Girls are just as lazy and unambitious as guys but the fact is they have 10x more opportunities than guys.

White knights need to stop putting these mid level girls on a pedestal and then maybe we might get somehwhere.

 

[Deleted member 23286]

This is false.
Studies have shown that women do NOT rate men on a statistical bell curve - most men are rated as below average.
To the perception of women, about 75% of men are straight up unattractive, 20% are cute/handsome, and 5% are highly attractive.

Yes, I am very much aware of the unfair judgments given out by women, however I am referring to the "true" looks of an average male, IE, not a superfluous, superficial analysis from foids.

 

[Deleted member 2381]

Was that in the UK? you don't seem to be having problems here then.

Some was in UK, others abroad

I don't have problems because I'm fully maxxed out in everything + chadlite face. Even still, I've only ever fucked one girl who mogged me, and one other who was my looksmatch. Getting your looksmatch here is nearly impossible. I am a standardscel, I refuse to fuck ugly or overweight girls. That being said, my prime was extremely short lived. I slayed extremely hard for about a year before meeting my gf so maybe I could've performed even better if I remained single

But I spent years inhbmaxxing and learning how to perfectly escalate with any girl

+ Im a professional morpher so my OLD profile is in the top 1%

Most guys have barely any experience, they're high inhb terrified of being rejected, autistic, non gymcelled, low sex appeal and their online profiles are garbage. If I struggled to get my looksmatch, these guys have no chance in hell

 

[subtochad]

Yes, I am very much aware of the unfair judgments given out by women, however I am referring to the "true" looks of an average male, IE, not a superfluous, superficial analysis from foids.

I get that, but I would argue that there exists no such thing as "true" looks. The very basis of male attractiveness is what sexually appeals to women, otherwise the concept is meaningless. There is no such thing as a male attractiveness that exists independent of women's perception (and gay dudes ig but thats not who we are trynna sleep with)

 

[subtochad]

Some was in UK, others abroad

I don't have problems because I'm fully maxxed out in everything + chadlite face. Even still, I've only ever fucked one girl who mogged me, and one other who was my looksmatch. Getting your looksmatch here is nearly impossible. I am a standardscel, I refuse to fuck ugly or overweight girls. That being said, my prime was extremely short lived. I slayed extremely hard for about a year before meeting my gf so maybe I could've performed even better if I remained single

But I spent years inhbmaxxing and learning how to perfectly escalate with any girl

+ Im a professional morpher so my OLD profile is in the top 1%

Most guys have barely any experience, they're high inhb terrified of being rejected, autistic, non gymcelled, low sex appeal and their online profiles are garbage. If I struggled to get my looksmatch, these guys have no chance in hell

what is your slay count?

 

[johnsmithcel]

Some was in UK, others abroad

I don't have problems because I'm fully maxxed out in everything + chadlite face. Even still, I've only ever fucked one girl who mogged me, and one other who was my looksmatch. Getting your looksmatch here is nearly impossible. I am a standardscel, I refuse to fuck ugly or overweight girls. That being said, my prime was extremely short lived. I slayed extremely hard for about a year before meeting my gf so maybe I could've performed even better if I remained single

But I spent years inhbmaxxing and learning how to perfectly escalate with any girl

+ Im a professional morpher so my OLD profile is in the top 1%

I've had similar experiences to the ones you posted above and i'm skinnyfat, not maxxed out in anything.

Most guys have barely any experience, they're high inhb terrified of being rejected, autistic, non gymcelled, low sex appeal and their online profiles are garbage. If I struggled to get my looksmatch, these guys have no chance in hell

Where do you live??? lol. Most normies I see are extremely narcissistic, which is why a lot of them get laid. And normies know they won't get shit from Tinder most of the time which is why they go out to get laid.

 

[Deleted member 23286]

I get that, but I would argue that there exists no such thing as "true" looks.

The very basis of male attractiveness is what sexually appeals to women, otherwise the concept is meaningless.

I understand where you're coming from, but I, for one, believe that there are objective standards of attractiveness that women and men both have to adhere to, be it consciously or unconsciously. We, here, like to admit (and, frankly, boast) about our power to overcome subjectivity.

 

[Dodevu]

Girls are just as lazy as guys - so why do guys have to work 10x the amount to win them over?

 

[Deleted member 2381]

I've had similar experiences to the ones you posted above and i'm skinnyfat, not maxxed out in anything.

Where do you live??? lol. Most normies I see are extremely narcissistic, which is why a lot of them get laid. And normies know they won't get shit from Tinder most of the time which is why they go out to get laid.

Down south, ngl I went to a fucking shit uni in an artsy area where the average person was a fucking weirdo. The girls there hated guys like me

I wish I had gone to Liverpool or Newcastle instead, slaying up north is 1000x easier

 

[chigoha]

Down south, ngl I went to a fucking shit uni in an artsy area where the average person was a fucking weirdo. The girls there hated guys like me

I wish I had gone to Liverpool or Newcastle instead, slaying up north is 1000x easier

how better you do in other countries compared to UK ?

 

[Deleted member 22962]

I always hear this cope but it's just not true. Most guys my age (mid-20's) are in the gym, eating healthy, have career aspirations or are trying to "grind" and "hustle". Self-improvement youtubers literally have millions and millions of subscribers, there's fitness and gym influencers with millions of followers, yet apparently the average guy is a loser.

The problem is after seeing this videos and believing them you see the bum skinny prettyboy skater who smokes and drinks and has absolutely 0 purpose or grind whatsoever getting all the girls

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Jfl at any body saying that 50% of men are incel.

More like 20% .

The reason a lot of men are not having sex is because
1)people have become more high inhib and autistic now than they were a few decades ago. Men these days are just low t in general.
2) modern women are just not worth the effort. They don't want to start a family till they are 35 years old. Plus are extremely entitled and disloyal.

It has nothing to do with looks and hypergamy. Maybe a bit.

 

[Chinacurry]

The problem is after seeing this videos and believing them you see the bum skinny prettyboy skater who smokes and drinks and has absolutely 0 purpose or grind whatsoever getting all the girls

Exactly my point.

 

[LowTierNormie]

Statistically speaking it's impossible for men on average to be sub-5.
BY DEFINITION the average is 5.

By a mathematical definition yes. But women don't grade like maths would, for them most men are truly sub5

 

[Chadethnic101]

how better you do in other countries compared to UK ?

I can attest with @forevergymcelling abroad is so much better than fkn uk in regards to attention escalation fkn everything

Uk is sooo fkn hard to get your looksmatch @forevergymcelling is not wrong about this despite him being maxxed out he still wouldn't be able to get a looksmatch often

I'm a slight diff case coz of ethnic tax in uk is strong so the girls I can get are HTBs at the very very best, despite being chadlite range.
Whereas in Europe I can get attention from HTBs very easily and they'd make it much easier for me to escalate with them, whereas in uk its a challenge, don't get me started about OLD it's over for me on there lmao

UK is extremely pheno dependent and social circle maxxing

Uk is stranger = danger personified

 

[thesedamnjuuuman]

0,1s after I saw this fucking spicy chicken curry face I knew whats happen next. Gym, perfect diet, working 90hours per week just to have a CHANCE to get laid with obese 60kg land whale who looks like shit even with makeup. I just don't get it man how tf they can look like garbage even with makeup when on YT there are videos where by using makeup men became woman. This is insane