Why does Iran think they stand a chance against Isreal/US

[douche]

Do they not think Isreal and it's allies (america and the west) are going to retaliate, jfl whats their plan

 

[MaghrebGator]

The plan Iran has is to support the low-mid intensity war of the different factions, with Gaza being the only front in which there is a full scale war.

The objective is to make Israel economy crumble through the lebanese border give and go by making the population abandon those settlements, block Israel ships via the yemenis in the Red Sea to damage their economy and almost never respond to an escalation to mantain the complete focus on Gaza so that their war crimes and massacres get exposed in fron of everyone and their image gets destroyed. That way Israel and the american administration will have to give up because of both local and global pressure and accept the Palestinian state.

Anyone who knew about the situation knew that Iran wasn't going to full attack Israel or go for serious casualties because that's exactly what Israel wants right now, and that's the only reason why they attacked their embassy. If they did such and escalated then the focus would stop being on Gaza and people would stop speaking of a Palestinian state, kicking Netanyahu out, the evils of zionism, etc, and it would become a US-Iran war.

Also Israel is extremely weak according to analysts like Douglas MacGregor. They are prone to lose territory right now if they went to full scale war with the Lebanese militias in the border without a US intervention.

 

[negawattlol]

The plan Iran has is to support the low-mid intensity war of the different factions, with Gaza being the only front in which there is a full scale war.

The objective is to make Israel economy crumble through the lebanese border give and go by making the population abandon those settlements, block Israel ships via the yemenis in the Red Sea to damage their economy and almost never respond to an escalation to mantain the complete focus on Gaza so that their war crimes and massacres get exposed in fron of everyone and their image gets destroyed. That way Israel and the american administration will have to give up because of both local and global pressure and accept the Palestinian state.

Anyone who knew about the situation knew that Iran wasn't going to full attack Israel or go for serious casualties because that's exactly what Israel wants right now, and that's the only reason why they attacked their embassy. If they did such and escalated then the focus would stop being on Gaza and people would stop speaking of a Palestinian state, kicking Netanyahu out, the evils of zionism, etc, and it would become a US-Iran war.

Also Israel is extremely weak according to analysts like Douglas MacGregor. They are prone to lose territory right now if they went to full scale war with the Lebanese militias in the border without a US intervention.

sounds like one big cope

 

[Michael Myers]

Welcome to the NHK (New Hu-white & Kike (world order)).

 

[MaghrebGator]

sounds like one big cope

Well Douglas MacGregor was a top Trump adviser, Alstair Crooke was the top UK ambassador in the region, Scott Ritter was also a very high ranking in US. Larry Wilkerson, Larry Johnson, Ray McGovern, Chas Freeman, etc, and they all give the same analysis

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

I’ll explain it tommorow don’t worry

 

[Imretarded?]

Do they not think Isreal and it's allies (america and the west) are going to retaliate, jfl whats their plan

The plan is they want to divide Nato's attention. Iran, Russia, China all share the same plan, they're in contact.

Russia has a very developed shell industry. They can out produce Nato in non smart bombs since America sold off their arsenal of democracy for 99 cents plastic junk from China.

Obviously America can completely obliterate Iran and deal significant damage to even China and Russia because of their big tech advantage but only if they concentrate their power. If the anti America faction can get the US involved in Ukraine (already are), middle east AND Taiwan, they are going to lose all three fronts.

 

[douche]

The plan Iran has is to support the low-mid intensity war of the different factions, with Gaza being the only front in which there is a full scale war.

The objective is to make Israel economy crumble through the lebanese border give and go by making the population abandon those settlements, block Israel ships via the yemenis in the Red Sea to damage their economy and almost never respond to an escalation to mantain the complete focus on Gaza so that their war crimes and massacres get exposed in fron of everyone and their image gets destroyed. That way Israel and the american administration will have to give up because of both local and global pressure and accept the Palestinian state.

Anyone who knew about the situation knew that Iran wasn't going to full attack Israel or go for serious casualties because that's exactly what Israel wants right now, and that's the only reason why they attacked their embassy. If they did such and escalated then the focus would stop being on Gaza and people would stop speaking of a Palestinian state, kicking Netanyahu out, the evils of zionism, etc, and it would become a US-Iran war.

Also Israel is extremely weak according to analysts like Douglas MacGregor. They are prone to lose territory right now if they went to full scale war with the Lebanese militias in the border without a US intervention.

high iq analysis, mirin.

That way Israel and the american administration will have to give up because of both local and global pressure and accept the Palestinian state

however this sounds like a major cope

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

Anyone who knew about the situation knew that Iran wasn't going to full attack Israel or go for serious casualties because that's exactly what Israel wants right now, and that's the only reason why they attacked their embassy. If they did such and escalated l

Isn’t ran full on escalating by sending drones to Israel lol

 

[MaghrebGator]

high iq analysis, mirin.

however this sounds like a major cope

Yeah its very difficult because US politicians straight are benefitting greatly from those israeli settlements in Palestine and the only reason they speak about the 2 states is because it's straight an insult to everyone to not say so after robbing them of their land. They only do it because of damage control purposes.

The father of Blinken for example owns real estate in those settlements, Biden is the politician that has received the most money from the Israeli lobby AIPAC (11 million i think, and that only officially)

It's all a big mafia.

 

[Azonin]

Better question is why do people think there is a possibility of america dropping alliance with israel if israel did something like killed a bunch of shitskins like they do anyway

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I’ll explain it tommorow don’t worry

Will you support your brothers in the war? lol your flight to go help Iran

 

[Eternal_]

Irans geography renders it so no country can ever successfully invade it. There have been multiple simulations and I think it takes something like 2-3 million soldiers for a successful invasion—i.e something that will not be achieved by any country—including America.

As far as military might, Iran is far more capable than Israel and every other middle eastern nation. It is the regional superpower.

these are facts we must acknowledge

 

[hiwasuwor]

They don't, they don't even want to attack pissrael but they had to because pissrael bombed an consulate of iran in iraq. Iran knows that if it attacks first; america will get involved and then its over for arian.

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

Will you support your brothers in the war?

Nah, I’m good

 

[douche]

The plan is they want to divide Nato's attention. Iran, Russia, China all share the same plan, they're in contact.

Russia has a very developed shell industry. They can out produce Nato in non smart bombs since America sold off their arsenal of democracy for 99 cents plastic junk from China.

Obviously America can completely obliterate Iran and deal significant damage to even China and Russia because of their big tech advantage but only if they concentrate their power. If the anti America faction can get the US involved in Ukraine (already are), middle east AND Taiwan, they are going to lose all three fronts.

@MaghrebGator agree with this? potentially IRC planning to divert americans interests, seems far fetched but possible

 

[MaghrebGator]

Isn’t ran full on escalating by sending drones to Israel lol

No. Full escalation is full war with all means necessary, like in Gaza. The lebanese have inflicted WAAAY more casualties on Israel yet it is still a low intensity war because there has been no invasion from neither side.

The iranian attack was a joke since minute 1 because they told everyone they were going to do it (Its a way to tell other countries to avoid casualties and that they don't want to hit them or inflict great damage, but just send the message that you cant attack embassies without retaliation). From what analysts say if israel decides to launch nuclear then Iran can flatten Israel for 2 years straight because they have too many infrastructure in different places, too many proxies, etc

Even the yemenis havent escalated. They have hundreds of thousands of men, and all they have done is to disrupt some ships here and there.

Full escalation is to drop all your potential and Iran today hasn't even dropped 0.00000000000001% of what they have (Im not exaggerating, that number is actually bigger than what it should be)

 

[neverascendcurrycel]

Kill each other of already

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

Will you support your brothers in the war?

Nah I’m good

No. Full escalation is full war with all means necessary, like in Gaza. The lebanese have inflicted WAAAY more casualties on Israel yet it is still a low intensity war because there has been no invasion from neither side.

The iranian attack was a joke since minute 1 because they told everyone they were going to do it (Its a way to tell other countries to avoid casualties and that they don't want to hit them or inflict great damage, but just send the message that you cant attack embassies without retaliation). From what analysts say if israel decides to launch nuclear then Iran can flatten Israel for 2 years straight because they have too many infrastructure in different places, too many proxies, etc

Even the yemenis havent escalated. They have hundreds of thousands of men, and all they have done is to disrupt some ships here and there.

Full escalation is to drop all your potential and Iran today hasn't even dropped 0.00000000000001% of what they have (Im not exaggerating, that number is actually bigger than what it should be)

So what your saying is this won’t escalate into a crazy region conflict in the Middle East

 

[MaghrebGator]

Nah I’m good

So what your saying is this won’t escalate into a crazy region conflict in the Middle East

It depends on the israeli response. The US will try to deter them from responding privately. They will condemn publicly and few politicians here and there will say "Attack Iran" but that's about it.

But there is the chance the US doesn't succeed convincing Israel. No one can say really because we still don't know who actually has power over who, if US over Netanyahu or the other way around. They have been destroying the image of Biden for 6 months with elections coming and still he is supporting them because he need funding from AIPAC for the campaing, but at the same time he is losing votes because of his support to the Gaza war.

I guess sooner or later he will have to make a decision, or maybe he will support Israel and be changed as candidate by someone like Michelle Obama who will not have that bad image like he has among democrat voters.

Its a very complex issue with too many variables but i really doubt it will escalate.

 

[Imretarded?]

@MaghrebGator agree with this? potentially IRC planning to divert americans interests, seems far fetched but possible

You could see their plan half fell apart when Russia's invasion began. China pussied out of their side of the deal when Russia failed to take Kiev. They realized the US could stop them at that point.

As far as Im aware, they're revising their plan to bait America into a Afghanistan 2.0 war. (iran) at the same time China begins full unification with a more built up military.

 

[Zoom759]

JFL if iran is attacked by america then russia and china are jumping in. and if that happens we’re all doomed no one wins a nuclear war