Why does leanmaxing depend on body fat % and not total fat amount

[facerate_00]

If you are 90kg 10% body fat you have about the same amount of fat as someone @ 70kg 13%

Surely since your face doesn't gain muscle the face would look pretty identical at these two numbers (9kg of fat in body although obviously the person who is 90kg will look leaner across the body where the extra muscle is) so why is body fat % used to measure if someone is leanmaxed?

A person who is quite skinny but has no muscle will have quite high body fat % but would surely still have quite a lean face

 

[Deleted member 7076]

A person who is quite skinny but has no muscle will have quite high body fat % but would surely still have quite a lean face

you would be surprised how many skinny people with no muscle are facially bloated

 

[facerate_00]

you would be surprised how many skinny people with no muscle are facially bloated

This makes no sense to me though? Let's say you gain 10kg of muscle but ur fat amount stays exactly the same. Why would your face change? Surely your body doesn't just start allocating that same amount of fat to other parts of the body just before you put on some muscle?

 

[Deleted member 7076]

This makes no sense to me though? Let's say you gain 10kg of muscle but ur fat amount stays exactly the same. Why would your face change? Surely your body doesn't just start allocating that same amount of fat to other parts of the body just before you put on some muscle?

yeah in theory your face wont change if u gained 10kg muscle with 0kg fat
but you will inevitably gain more than 0kg fat if u gain that much muscle

 

[facerate_00]

yeah in theory your face wont change if u gained 10kg muscle with 0kg fat
but you will inevitably gain more than 0kg fat if u gain that much muscle

Sure but that's my point. Body fat % seems like a weird indicator for leanmaxing. A skinny person at 10% body fat will have less fat than someone who goes to the gym and is 10% body fat

 

[scalpel]

I've always wondered this myself and have never really heard a satisfying explanation for it.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

I noticed alot of lean pro bodybuilders have fat faces

 

[scalpel]

I noticed alot of lean pro bodybuilders have fat faces

A lot of them don't though, especially not during competition. You also have to consider test bloat for pro's.

 

[RIPPED IRL]

I noticed alot of lean pro bodybuilders have fat faces

they gain muscle on their faces cuz roids

 

[randomvanish]

lean bodybuilders (if natural) generally don't have any bloat at all.
roids cause bloat, maybe you're talking about that.

Also yeah i'm exactly 90 kg at the height of 176 with muscles and my face leaner than my 74 kg untrained body.

 

[antiantifa]

A lot of them don't though, especially not during competition. You also have to consider test bloat for pro's.

No fucking shit, sherlock, they are fully water dried and 3-4% body-fat, of course they won't have fat faces during competition.
The point is is that when they come back to 10-15% body-fat their face look bloat as fuck.

 

[scalpel]

No fucking shit, sherlock, they are fully water dried and 3-4% body-fat, of course they won't have fat faces during competition.
The point is is that when they come back to 10-15% body-fat their face look bloat as fuck.

Not sure why you're so angry. Plenty of pro bodybuilders (and fitness competitors) do not look "bloat as fuck" at 10-15% bodyfat. I would suggest learning more about fitness before entering these conversations. Good luck!

 

[antiantifa]

Not sure why you're so angry. Plenty of pro bodybuilders (and fitness competitors) do not look "bloat as fuck" at 10-15% bodyfat. I would suggest learning more about fitness before entering these conversations. Good luck!

I am not angry, you're just low T thinking any criticism is anger. I don't even know you.
Show pictures of bodybuilders that roided, are out of competition in normal body-fat range and aren't bloated in face?

 

[scalpel]

I am not angry, you're just low T thinking any criticism is anger. I don't even know you.
Show pictures of bodybuilders that roided, are out of competition in normal body-fat range and aren't bloated in face?

See how easy that was? He's easily in 10-15% range and does not have a bloated appearance.

 

[antiantifa]

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See how easy that was? He's easily in 10-15% range and does not have a bloated appearance.

"He's easily in 10-15% range"
VEINS ON LOWER STOMACH
Man shut your dumb ass.
His face actually looks bloated for that 7-8% body-fat he's rocking.

 

[scalpel]

"He's easily in 10-15% range"
VEINS ON LOWER STOMACH
Man shut your dumb ass.
His face actually looks bloated for that 7-8% body-fat he's rocking.

He has almost no separation in his quadriceps, which is a good sign he's not sub-10%. I also get lower ab veins in the 10-12% range. Don't make excuses or move the goal posts, just accept you were wrong and move on.

 

[antiantifa]

He has almost no separation in his quadriceps, which is a good sign he's not sub-10%. I also get lower ab veins in the 10-12% range. Don't make excuses or move the goal posts, just accept you were wrong and move on.

Are you retarded?

1. His face isn't even showing much and it's already obvious he has some bloat.
2. You actually said it's possible he is 15% body-fat maximum with lower abs veins.
3. He's literally about 7-8% body-fat and obviously preparing for competition or just finished with competition.

Shut your whore mouth larping cuck ass bitch motherfucker.
"I also get lower ab veins in the 10-12% range."
Retard you're not a bodybuilder. Bodybuilder weighs 240 pounds, on him 10% body-fat is 24 pounds on fat. Meanwhile your 160 frame 10% body-fat is only 16 pounds of fat.

 

[scalpel]

Are you retarded?

1. His face isn't even showing much and it's already obvious he has some bloat.
2. You actually said it's possible he is 15% body-fat maximum with lower abs veins.
3. He's literally about 7-8% body-fat and obviously preparing for competition or just finished with competition.

Shut your whore mouth larping cuck ass bitch motherfucker.
"I also get lower ab veins in the 10-12% range."
Retard you're not a bodybuilder. Bodybuilder weighs 240 pounds, on him 10% body-fat is 24 pounds on fat. Meanwhile your 160 frame 10% body-fat is only 16 pounds of fat.

You requested someone in the 10-15% range without bloat and I provided an example of exactly that. There's nothing else to talk about. I understand that you don't know much about fitness, but getting extremely defensive isn't the move.

 

[antiantifa]

You requested someone in the 10-15% range without bloat and I provided an example of exactly that. There's nothing else to talk about. I understand that you don't know much about fitness, but getting extremely defensive isn't the move.

You're a wee bit young aren't ya, lil cunt.