why don't you believe in god?

[iblamexyz]

Basic probability for one

Interesting if we all look at all god's and what they preach

they usually have a topic of works or karma

unlike Jesus who died on the cross for our sins, He loved the whole world

Jesus is the most known human on earth, while also being the who's mocked the most

do you think that the devil would make sure the true god is the one who's mocked most?

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

I can use my Bible to back up what I am saying

You can’t use the Bible to prove the events in there exists…that’s like saying Superman exists because I read his comic book lmao

 

[KD6Imp33]

You can’t use the Bible to prove the events in there exists…that’s like saying Superman exists because I read his comic book lmao

True. Bible is a Freemason book.
Religion made to control.

 

[iblamexyz]

Ok so with this logic doesn’t god need a creator?

no he doesn't

do you believe in evolution?

 

[iblamexyz]

True. Bible is a Freemason book.
Religion made to control.

interesting why do you think so?

 

[iblamexyz]

You can’t use the Bible to prove the events in there exists…that’s like saying Superman exists because I read his comic book lmao

okay great

do you celebrate Easter?

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

no he doesn't

Using your logic he does. If you’re trying to imply that everything needs a creator then so does god.

do you believe in evolution?

Yes

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Interesting if we all look at all god's and what they preach

they usually have a topic of works or karma

unlike Jesus who died on the cross for our sins, He loved the whole world

Jesus is the most known human on earth, while also being the who's mocked the most

do you think that the devil would make sure the true god is the one who's mocked most?

"Mocked the most" because it's the most famous one. And Islam is mocked more than Christianity btw

Jesus "dying on the cross for our sins" is not a fact, nor an argument. That's a religious belief, written in the bible which, to non-christians, is a bunch of made up stories. (Even many Christians themselves don't believe the tales in the bible literally, but as a message)

And I don't believe in "the devil", so again, a ridiculous argument to use with someone who has just been writing why he doesn't believe in this stuff

Cba anymore. Putting the phone down

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

okay great

do you celebrate Easter?

What does elaborate Easter even mean

 

[courtcase75]

I grew up catholic and went to a Catholic school, still respect the institution and the priests and nuns that I met in school and church, but I could never bring myself to believe in god, it just doesn't click with me

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

"Mocked the most" because it's the most famous one. And Islam is mocked more than Christianity btw

Jesus "dying on the cross for our sins" is not a fact, nor an argument. That's a religious belief, written in the bible which, to non-christians, is a bunch of made up stories. (Even many Christians themselves don't believe the tales in the bible literally, but as a message)

And I don't believe in "the devil", so again, a ridiculous argument to use with someone who has just been writing why he doesn't believe in this stuff

Cba anymore. Putting the phone down

Christian persecution complex at full display.

 

[iblamexyz]

If God created us in his image, then he's fucking ugly, because we were first Neanderthals and Homo Erectus etc.
I think we are a mixture of an Alien race that came and mixed with us stupid Neanderthals, only to make slightly more intelligent slaves out of us. All we had where sticks and stones.

They want us smart enough to run the machinery, but dumb enough to not question why we do it.
People don't even know that we're all enslaved by these Royals.
Only slaves pay taxes. Royals (slave masters) don't pay taxes.
Same concept since Ancient Egypt btw.

god never claimed to be gorgeous actually the opposite

well I want you to question god and ask me

I wanted understand why you don't think god is real

 

[iblamexyz]

I grew up catholic and went to a Catholic school, still respect the institution and the priests and nuns that I met in school and church, but I could never bring myself to believe in god, it just doesn't click with me

how old were you?

 

[courtcase75]

how old were you?

20

 

[iblamexyz]

20

great I meant when you left the school/church?

 

[iblamexyz]

Why his?
God wouldn't have a sex/gender

And no, that's exactly my point. We don't. Which is why human ideas on religion are completely made up and pointless

in the old testament, (before Jesus)

this book is written about 945 before Jesus

King Solomon has a vision of god's son

why do you think god shouldn't have a gender or sex?

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

in the old testament, (before Jesus)

this book is written about 945 before Jesus

King Solomon has a vision of god's son

why do you think god shouldn't have a gender or sex?

Because inorganic things cannot have a sex. The purpose of having a sex is for reproduction.

 

[iblamexyz]

Because no one was around at the beginning of the universe!

can the same be said for evolution?

 

[iblamexyz]

Because inorganic things cannot have a sex. The purpose of having a sex is for reproduction.

when you have children, would not want to be the father and show up for them and show them the basics and how to live?

 

[iblamexyz]

Yeah and Muslims could use a Qur'an. Other religions could use their religious texts

of course they could

and I am very happy to to have that discussion with about Jesus being god

 

[iblamexyz]

There’s no point in believing in god if I don’t know for sure he exists. I mean for instance I do something I regret, something sinful or whatever, I’ll feel bad about it sure but I won’t have to worry about god forgiving me. All I need is my forgiveness to grow past it.

what would god need to do in your life for him to be real to you

god forgives all sins

why do you think you only need your forgiveness to grow past it?

 

[iblamexyz]

Using your logic he does. If you’re trying to imply that everything needs a creator then so does god.

Yes

well god creates life

how do you measure evolution being real?

 

[moggin]

what would god need to do in your life for him to be real to you

god forgives all sins

why do you think you only need your forgiveness to grow past it?

What would god need to do? Actually have proof of his existence. Why do I only need my own forgiveness? Because I know for sure I’m real but I don’t know for sure if he is.

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

well god creates life

how do you measure evolution being real?

Vestigial features, fossils, bacteria, selective breeding, etc. How old are you?

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

when you have children, would not want to be the father and show up for them and show them the basics and how to live?

What does this have to do with the original comment

 

[iblamexyz]

"Mocked the most" because it's the most famous one. And Islam is mocked more than Christianity btw

Jesus "dying on the cross for our sins" is not a fact, nor an argument. That's a religious belief, written in the bible which, to non-christians, is a bunch of made up stories. (Even many Christians themselves don't believe the tales in the bible literally, but as a message)

And I don't believe in "the devil", so again, a ridiculous argument to use with someone who has just been writing why he doesn't believe in this stuff

Cba anymore. Putting the phone down

great please show me some evidence of Islam being more than Christianity, whilst your at it please provide the evidence for Christian not believing in the Bible

forgive me for not knowing you believe in the devil, I talked with a lot of agnostics and they think satan is real but God isn't (I am sorry I had assumed you probs do too)
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Tac.+Ann.+15.44
a lot of scientific evidence to back up Jesus dying on the cross

Interested to why you put your phone down during our conversation?

 

[iblamexyz]

What does elaborate Easter even mean

I said do you celebrate Easter?

 

[iblamexyz]

Christian persecution complex at full display.

why?

 

[KD6Imp33]

god never claimed to be gorgeous actually the opposite

well I want you to question god and ask me

I wanted understand why you don't think god is real

I don't know if he's real, i just don't believe in any of the cube (Saturn) worshipper religions.
Christian Cross is also a cube btw, just unfolded.

 

[JustCallMeKash]

1. why no chad? TLDR: would you worship god or your looks if you were chad?

some people in Christianity will be poor forever
not because god is evil is, because they will become evil

their money is their god

if you were chad

would you ever consider Christ?

would would you be a degenerate?

Truly think about you, your life as a chad

where do you see yourself and see yourself doing

explain it to me

again why do you want become chad?

what is your life lacking that you think I need to be chad?

let's say you are a Christian and Chad

would you abuse your looks and would ur looks be above god?

if you say yes than that's your answer

also god creation is perfect Psalm 18:30: As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the Lord is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.

god created you in a perfect way and loves you with sin so much he died for you

2: TLDR: I don't your plan only god does thru prayer

I don't know his plan for that's between you and god

but you are on earth breathing seeing and walking all thanks to Jesus

I can't even begin to see or understand his plan for you although it is mighty.

3: TLDR: 1 Samuel 16:7

why are there sub 5?

I am not too sure to be honest

but this verse personally I think speaks about the bp

1 Samuel 16:7 - But the Lord said to Samuel, 'Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart

Jesus look at your heart come judgement day there is no Looksim in heaven on judgement day

was your heart with or without Jesus

Jesus isn't a dictator

He loves you, because he loves you so much he is willing you walk away from him although just like anything in life

actions have consequences on judgement god will ask why did you not believe in me?

4: TLDR: you need evil so good can be shown and seen

how do you know what the moon looks like without the sun?

how do you know what straight teeth are without crooked ones?

you with me?

you need darkness

for the light..

Jeremiah 18 - i am the potter and you are the clay

god show's his wrath

because without a wrath god

if he you have just mercy you have a push over

same with your parents

if your parents or caretakers

don't tell you no from time to time

you become spoiled just like Lucifer

pride entered him and he wanted to be god

instead of worshiping

we NEED evil for good

the fact that cancer exists is scary

but scary enough to know that one day it can happen to us and

and we can either wake up in our graves or be healed

If I was chad I would go to church everyday and thankgod for making my life easy instead im a sub-5 hence I dont go to church if God had made be beautiful I would go to heaven, but he didnt choose me

 

[iblamexyz]

If I was chad I would go to church everyday and thankgod for making my life easy instead im a sub-5 hence I dont go to church if God had made be beautiful I would go to heaven, but he didnt choose me

if you were chad?

would you put your looks above god?

 

[JustCallMeKash]

if you were chad?

would you put your looks above god?

No idc about looks i jst wanted to be treated like a human being

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

why?

Trying to claim Christians are mocked the most.

 

[looksmaxxed]

who would believe in god go to church and devote a huge portion of their life to some sand nigger cult from the bronze age if it didn't promise them eternal life. it's literally just fear of death

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

I love how none of the pro god comments in this thread chain actually prove the existence of a god

 

[iblamexyz]

I don't know if he's real, i just don't believe in any of the cube (Saturn) worshipper religions.
Christian Cross is also a cube btw, just unfolded.

this is a conspiracy theory

I'm very glad that you've decided to add 'evidence'

although this doesn't align with the bible or history

 

[KT-34]

God is a very human concept and the world works through a very cold and very inhuman logic, even down to the animals

If he exists he is very removed from how we imagine him because if he was anywhere near similar to a human he would really interfere

 

[134applesauce456]

think of god as a doctor for this example

every patient has the same doctor but if people don't visit him he can't heal them

Mark 2:17

you are partially correct

but the same can be said for orthodontist's

there's loads of people with gaps in their teeth yet, they don't visit the orthodontist to fix their gaps

what if people don't have the means to know about him, like they are in some 3rd world country with no knowledge of God

that's pretty unfair

 

[JustCallMeKash]

Btw the christian God most likely isn't real if he wanted he could have made me u and u me and u would prolly go to hell, not even by ur own free choice jst out of the environment u were placed into and the cards u were given while I would be spreading the world of the lord jst like u are based simple by where I was born, how I look and who my parents where

 

[134applesauce456]

think of god as a doctor for this example

every patient has the same doctor but if people don't visit him he can't heal them

Mark 2:17

you are partially correct

but the same can be said for orthodontist's

there's loads of people with gaps in their teeth yet, they don't visit the orthodontist to fix their gaps

also there is a lot of religious people in the world, billions, so i still find it pretty irrational that God cares about every single person who calls upon him but maybe there is a chance?

 

[KD6Imp33]

this is a conspiracy theory

I'm very glad that you've decided to add 'evidence'

although this doesn't align with the bible or history

It's not a "theory" that we're all enslaved.
You don't even know that you're a slave.

 

[134applesauce456]

Btw the christian God most likely isn't real if he wanted he could have made me u and u me and u would prolly go to hell, not even by ur own free choice jst out of the environment u were placed into and the cards u were given while I would be spreading the world of the lord jst like u are based simple by where I was born, how I look and who my parents where

exactly jfl people's actions are heavily based on the family and environment they were born to + the cards they were dealt.


we lowkey don't have free will because our brains and decision making processes are so heavily influenced by external factors, it would be genuinely unfair to cast ANYONE into hell and the other into heaven

 

[Skull Based Sage]

I know org can be quite demonic not everyone and that's a funky few

however a lot of people are either atheist (strong believe that there is no god) or agnostic (don't know if there is a god)

of course there's a few Muslims and Hindu's I've seen on the forums and Christians ofc

I am self I am Christian


I am more interested in debating god exitance rather than what Muslim vs Christian's and vies versa or something else

Still open to it however

Alright, I'll try to engage productively since your post seems to have good faith behind it.

First, before presenting any of my arguments, how about you hit me with yours? The burden of proof lies on the person making the positive claim (God exists). It's only logical that you start building your premise as to why said thing exists before I commence countering a baseless claim.

 

[JustCallMeKash]

@iblamexyz I have a question what motivated you to become a christian and how were you introduced to the religion

 

[iblamexyz]

What would god need to do? Actually have proof of his existence. Why do I only need my own forgiveness? Because I know for sure I’m real but I don’t know for sure if he is.

how do you know that you're not a memory?

 

[JustCallMeKash]

exactly jfl people's actions are heavily based on the family and environment they were born to + the cards they were dealt.


we lowkey don't have free will because our brains and decision making processes are so heavily influenced by external factors, it would be genuinely unfair to cast ANYONE into hell and the other into heaven

Imagine christianity was real tho hella people would go to hell, by people spreading the "gospel" imagine you're jst sum hinduist or sum shit and u see a reel in a foreign language with a man claiming to be God and u jst ignore it FIREEEE!!!

 

[iblamexyz]

@iblamexyz I have a question what motivated you to become a christian and how were you introduced to the religion

Thanks for asking about me

I went 17 years without hearing the true gospel, I live in England which at least my city wasn't a Christian City and I knew no real Christians people including my family (mother, father, grandmother and other distant relatives) and my school wasn't Christian either and my influence wasn't either.

although I will admit my family did claim to be Christian but did not follow Christ same goes for my school.

I joined a performing arts course in college when I was 18, met my best friend and he prophesized and evangelized to me over a year and me and him went back and forth about god, one night I was suffering with sleep apnea , really scared I was going to die wasn't sure what to do, lost out of hope I thought may as well pray.

felt the holy sprit in that moment and been following Christ since than

reading the bible, going back and forth with pastors and other people like this online

strengthening my relationship with Jesus Christ and learning more about every single day

 

[moggin]

how do you know that you're not a memory?

Well probably because I can do whatever I want and have memories. Seriously what question is that? If you’re trying to think about one time when you were remembering a memory, could you now tell what that specific memory was? No, so that’s how I know I’m not a memory.

 

[JustCallMeKash]

Thanks for asking about me

I went 17 years without hearing the true gospel, I live in England which at least my city wasn't a Christian City and I knew no real Christians people including my family (mother, father, grandmother and other distant relatives) and my school wasn't Christian either and my influence wasn't either.

although I will admit my family did claim to be Christian but did not follow Christ same goes for my school.

I joined a performing arts course in college when I was 18, met my best friend and he prophesized and evangelized to me over a year and me and him went back and forth about god, one night I was suffering with sleep apnea , really scared I was going to die wasn't sure what to do, lost out of hope I thought may as well pray.

felt the holy sprit in that moment and been following Christ since than

reading the bible, going back and forth with pastors and other people like this online

strengthening my relationship with Jesus Christ and learning more about every single day

Thats good for you ig, but at one point in my life I was suicidal and I turned to god and he didn't come, I cried and begged and prayed and nothing happened in the end I was alone like I had always been so I jst dealt with it day by day suffering I still suffer, but what does it matter if noone cares then its not even real

 

[Gonthar]