Why exactly is suicide seen as so evil? At least to some

[wishIwasSalludon]

do you attend a T10 school? in your respective country

Not yet, summer isn’t over

Why is that relevant?

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

East London. There’s a school with no native English speakers!

Are they a UKcel too

 

[imontheloose]

Religious people think that life is a gift from god and only god can take it. In my country, whenever someone kills themselves they beat the shit out of the dead body before burying it to expel the "curse" that comes from suicide

I’m not talking about religious people. Suicide was implemented as such a heinous sin, in my eyes, to prevent people from just killing themselves to go see God in heaven.

 

[imontheloose]

A religious argument would be "Suicide is immoral because you're simply disregarding the body that god gave you"
Also, many people view suicide as immoral because you're going to make your families life harder since they'll have to cope with the fact you're not here anymore because of your own decisions (depends on your family)

I’m not talking about religious people. Suicide was implemented as such a heinous sin, in my eyes, to prevent people from just killing themselves to go see God in heaven.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

hop off this guys dick, repping every post, slurping real good. How does it taste in your mouth?

He isn’t sub 80 iq and actually knows what a right is.

 

[imontheloose]

@imontheloose hop off this guys dick, repping every post, slurping real good. How does it taste in your mouth?

"Seems comprehensive enough. Depends if the person wants to accept it or not."

fucking midwit

He asked me if he’s missing something. And I’m repping the posts of yours which I have an actual reaction to. Same with his.

 

[inceI]

Because there’s a contradiction

You can’t say that you have the right to suicide but also say someone has the right to stop you from committing suicide

Those two things are contradicting they cannot both be true


Yes they could they would just be punished/prevented for it

It’s the same in the case of suicide

You cannot truly have the right to something if someone has the right to prevent you from doing that thing

no one is physically preventing you unless incarcerated

stop

East London. There’s a school with no native English speakers!

Are they a UKcel too

yeah, this island is cursed

 

[imontheloose]

Are they a UKcel too

AFAIK. From East London I saw in his funny argument with @Hernan. I loved that thread. Really made me giggle.

 

[imontheloose]

yeah, this island is cursed

My poor great-grandfather died at Dunkirk for this little island. I am glad he doesn’t have to see what it’s like now.

 

[courtcase75]

I’m not talking about religious people. Suicide was implemented as such a heinous sin, in my eyes, to prevent people from just killing themselves to go see God in heaven.

Obviously that would be the logical conclusion of the whole "If you're a good person, you'll have a wonderful, peaceful life when you die" they would need to answer why you shouldn't just kill yourself

 

[imontheloose]

Obviously that's would be the logical conclusion of the whole "If you're a good person, you'll have a wonderful, peaceful life when you die" they would need to answer why you shouldn't just kill yourself

Indeed. Thus this post isn’t directed towards them. I’m speaking to the irreligious.

 

[inceI]

My poor great-grandfather died at Dunkirk for this little island. I am glad he doesn’t have to see what it’s like now!

pigskin

He isn’t sub 80 iq and actually knows what a right is.

aggresive much?

 

[imontheloose]

pigskin

What’s funny?

 

[inceI]

iq predictions from this thread

@wishIwasSalludon ~130
@imontheloose ~110 (general midwit)

 

[inceI]

What’s funny?

your grandad fought at dunkirk

died for the jooz

 

[imontheloose]

iq predictions from this thread

@wishIwasSalludon ~130
@imontheloose ~110 (general midwit)

I’ll take a SD from the mean.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Suicide means your so spiritually and
Morally bankrupt you don’t even value your own life

 

[imontheloose]

Suicide means your so spiritually and
Morally bankrupt you don’t even value your own life

How exactly? Why does that make it evil?

 

[Mess]

You come from nothing, you live with everything, and you return to nothing.
Why purposely choose to die for nothing, when you could live for everything?

 

[imontheloose]

You come from nothing, you live with everything, and you return to nothing.
Why purposely choose to die for nothing, when you could live for everything?

With all due respect, this is Reddit-tier advice of, “hey, you could do anything!”

 

[inceI]

With all due respect, this is Reddit-tier advice of, “hey, you could do anything!”

hes trying so hard to sound profound

let him have his moment

 

[Mess]

With all due respect, this is Reddit-tier advice of, “hey, you could do anything!”

Don't interpret what I said as, "you could do anything!"
I mean that you are living, this is your one and only shot of existence.
Why would you trade in everything for nothing?

 

[autistic_tendencies]

How exactly? Why does that make it evil?

The consequences of their words are never actions. They start to lead an unproductive, parasitic and causing anxiety to others lifestyle. They live at the expense of others. States of deep depression and lack of interest, in their person are also present - which in most instances may lead to a spectacular 'suicides'

 

[inceI]

Don't interpret what I said as, "you could do anything!"
I mean that you are living, this is your one and only shot of existence.
Why would you trade in everything for nothing?

because you didnt ask to exist

its simple really

 

[imontheloose]

Don't interpret what I said as, "you could do anything!"
I mean that you are living, this is your one and only shot of existence.
Why would you trade in everything for nothing?

The point is your life can be so horrific that nothingness is arguably better and favourable.

 

[FaceandBBC]

They don't want you to be free.

 

[imontheloose]

because you didnt ask to exist

its simple really

Precisely. I even outlined it in the post. It’s about you being forced, so to say to stay alive when you never asked for it.

 

[inceI]

Precisely. I even outlined it in the post. It’s about you being forced, so to say to stay alive when you never asked for it.

yeah, most of arguing in this thread was about if you have the "right to"

just semantics tbh

 

[imontheloose]

They don't want you to be free.

You’re a Londoner, of course nothingness is freedom.

 

[inceI]

You’re a Londoner, of course nothingness is freedom.

is everyone on this forum from east london?

or just us

 

[imontheloose]

yeah, most of arguing in this thread was about if you have the "right to"

just semantics tbh

True, I did feel like that. It’s annoying I had to explain a lot. I do feel like if they actually read what I said, rather than the title, they’d actually understand what I’m saying.

Nonetheless, there are some pretty good points. Just a shame this pathetic Indian forum has a down syndrome epidemic.

 

[Mess]

The point is your life can be so horrific that nothingness is arguably better and favourable.

Maybe. I just have a different outlook on stuff. Life is always worthwhile in my eyes, unless you've got some chronic condition.

 

[imontheloose]

is everyone on this forum from east london?

or just us

I’m not a Londoner! I’m a northerner who moved down south for uni. Thank God I don’t have to live in London.

 

[BadLuck7892]

A combination of religion as well as the fact some folks are simply too cowardly to ever even contemplate killing themselves (so they project by calling suicide cowardly)

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

so you believe something has to be physical for it to exist

are you a reddit athiest

Imagine there are two people in a room

John and Joe

they’re in a universe where nothing else exists it’s just them in that room that’s it that’s all there ever has been

Can you logically prove that John should not kill Joe?

You can’t, it’s not possible.

You cannot show that John should not kill Joe in the same way a mathematician can prove a conjecture for example.

 

[FaceandBBC]

You’re a Londoner, of course nothingness is freedom.

I'm an American. Not much better anyways.

 

[imontheloose]

Maybe. I just have a different outlook on stuff. Life is always worthwhile in my eyes, unless you've got some chronic condition.

Agree to disagree.

A combination of religion as well as the fact some folks are simply too cowardly to ever even contemplate killing themselves (so they project by calling suicide cowardly)

I understand suicide in religion is seen as evil, I get why it was prohibited as a manmade book claiming to be divine. But else, I don’t see much leeway for disagreement.

 

[BadLuck7892]

I've attempted suicide.

It takes a tremendous amount of courage to attempt to kill yourself. Fuck anyone who calls suicide cowardly.

 

[inceI]

Imagine there are two people in a room

John and Joe

they’re in a universe where nothing else exists it’s just them in that room that’s it that’s all there ever has been

Can you logically prove that John should not kill Joe?

You can’t, it’s not possible.

You cannot show that John should not kill Joe in the same way a mathematician can prove a conjecture for example.

/thread

 

[imontheloose]

I've attempted suicide.

It takes a tremendous amount of courage to attempt to kill yourself. Fuck anyone who calls suicide cowardly.

Not sure if it’s this thread or another. But I’ve actually mentioned how much courage it really takes to end your life!

 

[inceI]

I've attempted suicide.

It takes a tremendous amount of courage to attempt to kill yourself. Fuck anyone who calls suicide cowardly.

how did you attempt?

and what were your thoughts during and after

 

[gooner23]

depends on what you mean tbh just kill yourself for no reason, euthanasia, mental illness, existential

only one i agree that suicide should be treated as like an awareness similar to drug addiction is usually mentally illness, people aren't aware of their own feelings or understand it well enough to just kill themselves especially at the ages 13-21

 

[imontheloose]

The consequences of their words are never actions. They start to lead an unproductive, parasitic and causing anxiety to others lifestyle. They live at the expense of others. States of deep depression and lack of interest, in their person are also present - which in most instances may lead to a spectacular 'suicides'

I don’t know what the point of this is exactly. Sure? But how is suicide morally/spiritually absent? How can you say morality even exists?

 

[imontheloose]

depends on what you mean tbh just kill yourself for no reason, euthanasia, mental illness, existential

only one i agree that suicide should be treated as like an awareness similar to drug addiction is usually mentally illness, people aren't aware of their own feelings or understand it well enough to just kill themselves especially at the ages 13-21

Let’s just say in regards to assistive death (human euthanasia).

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

/thread

Not sure where that’s from

 

[inceI]

Not sure where that’s from

forum 'slang' for when someone drops a truth nvke and nothing else needs to be said (point has been proven in dominant manner)

e.g.

women like chad

/thread

 

[autistic_tendencies]

I don’t know what the point of this is exactly. Sure? But how is suicide morally/spiritually absent? How can you say morality even exists?

There’s rules to this realm whether you believe it or not, I imagine the karma is very bad, giving up on the game

 

[imontheloose]

forum 'slang' for when someone drops a truth nvke and nothing else needs to be said (point has been proven in dominant manner)

e.g.

women like chad

/thread

You see, that was years ago. We have evolved on this now:

 

[gooner23]

Let’s just say in regards to assistive death (human euthanasia).

there was a girl in 8th grade that did a essay on euthanasia years ago this was in a extremely religious school like 60% mormon, mormons would be like the most opposed to such an idea but i think 87% of our entire grade voted for legal euthanasia so i think its like an extreme minority to be opposed to it honestly, its usually a person close to the person who is getting euthanasia where it becomes an exception



like this dudes wife prevented him from dying for a long time and honestly was a brutal watch

 

[inceI]

You see, that was years ago. We have evolved on this now:
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im not that old, only 18. Just found the bp quite early (14 or so)